Guest dog14787 Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Trent Edwards Lee Evans comes in a close second, Marshawn 3rd. Top player on D would have to be Terrence Mcgee, especially when you factor in his special teams skills. Moorman deserves honorable mention
San-O Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Definitely Peters. He' so good we should renegotiate his contract every year to make sure he is the highest paid player in the league every year. I know Peters is great, but how much difference did he really make last year for the offense as a whole. Buffalo was 31'st in the NFL with him. How much worse will they be without him: we may find out. I hope not.
renfruzetz Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Given QB's and LT's are the two most valuable positions, it has to be Peters. OTOH RB is one of the most easily replaced yet losing Lynch would be disastrous for our season.
obie_wan Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Given QB's and LT's are the two most valuable positions, it has to be Peters. OTOH RB is one of the most easily replaced yet losing Lynch would be disastrous for our season. Fred Jackson actually ran better than Lynch last year. He averaged almost a full yard more and is much more advanced in the passing game than Lynch. Losing Lynch would hurt but would not be fatal - especially if Trent is able to handle a bigger passing game. Nothing works without an OL
CFLstyle Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Lindell, followed by Moorman and the long snapper. If you can't kick effectively, you are 53 pieces of toast residing on the same plate that holds the other non-playoff clubs. Average kickers are a dime a dozen. It's the ones who don't miss who are really hard to find. I'm definately pretty happy with Lindell, I think he's way underrated outside of Buffalo. That being said, he's replaceable.
Rico Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Peters and its not even closeIt could be close if somehow Stroud is able to return to his old form. Otherwise, definitely Peters.
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 I vote for Peters as I think Chambers will get several people killed if he has to play for any length of time. BTW, I thought Lee Evans left the team last year -- had to check the program every once in a while to make sure he was still around. I know Peters is great, but how much difference did he really make last yearfor the offense as a whole. Buffalo was 31'st in the NFL with him. How much worse will they be without him: we may find out. I hope not. Yes, the offense sucks even with Peters in there. But, can you imagine Edwards getting mowed under every time he goes back to pass? The guy hasn't won any "Mr. Durability" awards in his career.
lets_go_bills Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 You can't go wrong with a couple of guys here. But Jason Peters is getting my vote. We need this guy... big time.
Dan Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 I vote for Peters as I think Chambers will get several people killed if he has to play for any length of time. BTW, I thought Lee Evans left the team last year -- had to check the program every once in a while to make sure he was still around. Yes, the offense sucks even with Peters in there. But, can you imagine Edwards getting mowed under every time he goes back to pass? The guy hasn't won any "Mr. Durability" awards in his career. He'd probably look alot like JP Losman.
San-O Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 I vote for Peters as I think Chambers will get several people killed if he has to play for any length of time. BTW, I thought Lee Evans left the team last year -- had to check the program every once in a while to make sure he was still around. Yes, the offense sucks even with Peters in there. But, can you imagine Edwards getting mowed under every time he goes back to pass? The guy hasn't won any "Mr. Durability" awards in his career. Re: Evans: I'm not able to see many of the games, and listen on the internet and also follow on NFL.com. I also recall wondering if Evans was in the game or not, seemingly going entire quarters without being mentioned many games. Re: Edwards: There is that. I imagine they'll need to get Chambers some help.
JuanGuzman Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 It could be close if somehow Stroud is able to return to his old form. Otherwise, definitely Peters. I like Stroud a lot in JAX prior to his microfracture surgery, if he returns to Form he will make everyone better on the line especially Schobel and McCargo. Unfortunately, Stroud has looked like a shadow of his former self since the surgery, don't get me wrong I hope the best from him but I'm not expecting anything special. As for Peters, just look what happened to Bills when he got injured against the NYG and everything went to hell.
colin Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 i disagree about peters. left tackle (along with CB) is a super expensive slot because it is very hard to find guys who can play it at that level. it doesn't mean that that slot provides the biggest contribution to the team tho. during the offseason, it is all supply and demand. so yes in the offseason it is hardest/most expensive to replace a good LT (or CB). once the season starts tho the worst people to lose are your QB (if your back up is a lesser player of course), your star playmaker on O, and your defensive key players (which usually means a passrusher or your best DT). while these guys are more "replacable" in the offseason because of the extra supply (and mosly in the draft rather than FA) vs LTs (and CBs) they will make a bigger impact on wins and losses in the reg season. you can scheme your D to cover up for coverage, and scheme on O to help a weak spot at tackle. you will give up more sacks, get fewer ints, and all that, but you at least have some control. you lose your play maker or qb, you lose an entire dimension to your O. you lose your top DT (phat pat for us) and you just might never get your run d on point, and if you lose your passrush (remember that playoff game in pitts when bruce was ill? his usualy dominant game might have won us that match) you can't pressure the o and usually one or 2 guys really kick start your pass rush. so for us, if trent or evans comes on strong they would be the biggest loss (or lych for that matter, but i think evans is more likely to be a top 3 guy this year), failing that it is aaron or stroud. i'd still be a lot happier if peters was in camp and getting ready to smash heads, but if our d is strong and we get the odd long TD and ST play, we can manage.
tennesseeboy Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 The question is whose absence will do the most damage to the team. Consequently we have to measure the quality of the position, the quality of the player in that position, and the quality of the backup. Quarterback is the big position, but there isn't all THAT much difference between Edwards and Losman. Evans? Well we have Hardy and others. Corners seem pretty much in the same realm. Running back would be a big dropoff from Lynch to Jackson but we'd get by. Given our present holdout stance I hate to have to admit it, but without Peters we aren't going anywhere. It is a perfect storm...essential position...pro-bowl caliber player...no viable backup.
stuckincincy Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 The question is whose absence will do the most damage to the team. Consequently we have to measure the quality of the position, the quality of the player in that position, and the quality of the backup. Quarterback is the big position, but there isn't all THAT much difference between Edwards and Losman. Evans? Well we have Hardy and others. Corners seem pretty much in the same realm. Running back would be a big dropoff from Lynch to Jackson but we'd get by. Given our present holdout stance I hate to have to admit it, but without Peters we aren't going anywhere. It is a perfect storm...essential position...pro-bowl caliber player...no viable backup. Hello Tenny. Speaking of damage, how's the coming crop shaping up?
tennesseeboy Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 Hello Tenny. Speaking of damage, how's the coming crop shaping up? Crop of what cincy? Kids are fine (daughter finished first year law school son doing well, grandkids are the best in the world...I think every grandfather says that though). Getting ready for a great football season!
stuckincincy Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 Crop of what cincy? Kids are fine (daughter finished first year law school son doing well, grandkids are the best in the world...I think every grandfather says that though). Getting ready for a great football season! Students...
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