Last Night's Colbert Report with Nas

[KD in CA]

... when it promotes a racist agenda, yeah it is worse. Show me a clip, besides the Dan Rather slipup, where one of the "liberal media" promotes a racist agenda and i'll shut up.

 

You mean besides every time they afford credibility to the likes of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton?

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One: Let's stop calling CNN/NBC the "extreme-left" and Fox "extreme-right." They are center-left and center-right, respectively. Let's not act like there's really much difference in the BS they spew. Pepsi or Coke, that's all. The Cable TV News spectrum does not encompass the real far-left or far-right, so let's not pretend Olbermann is Marx and O'Reilly is Franco. Two: the disparity in viewership reflects the political stances of the nation- more people consider themselves Republican/right leaning that Democrat/left-leaning. It is more likely that a person would gather their news and opinion from like-minded sources, ergo, more people watch Fox.

 

What about people like me that watch Fox CNN MSNBC etc, read Drudge Google News etc, and try to gather information from as many sources as possible?

[Andrew in CA]

What about people like me that watch Fox CNN MSNBC etc, read Drudge Google News etc, and try to gather information from as many sources as possible?

I would wager you're more informed and open than the average American. I would also wager that your people of your ilk are few.

[justnzane]

You mean besides every time they afford credibility to the likes of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton?

touche, you did what Darin and OCin couldn't do. I will agree with you that them two are scumbag racists for their own cause.

 

Thank you, you saved a long response to OCin's post.

[justnzane]

What was the Rather slip-up?

Rather said Osama instead of Obama, and the other people didn't correct him.

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Rather said Osama instead of Obama, and the other people didn't correct him.

 

I know hard-core Obama Kool-Aid drinker and even he slips up sometimes and calls him Osama. Tho he does get mad if somebody else does the same

[KD in CA]

I know hard-core Obama Kool-Aid drinker and even he slips up sometimes and calls him Osama. Tho he does get mad if somebody else does the same

 

 

Didn't he call him 'Osama bin Ladin'? That's a hell of a slip up!

 

 

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

[elegantelliotoffen]

Rather said Osama instead of Obama, and the other people didn't correct him.

 

That's no big deal, I've seen tons of people do the same thing.

[Wacka]

I know hard-core Obama Kool-Aid drinker and even he slips up sometimes and calls him Osama. Tho he does get mad if somebody else does the same

 

 

Q: What's the diference between Obama and Osama?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A: Just some BS!

[justnzane]

Q: What's the diference between Obama and Osama?

A: Just some BS!

Now, you don't see most libs (besides pBills, and Rolling Stone) making McCain jokes in such a bad taste.

[Chef Jim]

That's no big deal, I've seen tons of people do the same thing.

 

Yeah it's not big deal. Other than he didn't call him Osama, he called him Osama bin Laden and this is from someone who talks for a living. But what killed me most of all is the others just sat there and didn't point it out.

[justnzane]

Yeah it's not big deal. Other than he didn't call him Osama, he called him Osama bin Laden and this is from someone who talks for a living. But what killed me most of all is the others just sat there and didn't point it out.

Yes, it killed me too. I still wonder if the others were afraid to correct Rather, in the same light people would be afraid to correct Cronkite in a bar room discussion.

[Chef Jim]

Yes, it killed me too. I still wonder if the others were afraid to correct Rather, in the same light people would be afraid to correct Cronkite in a bar room discussion.

 

If you're afraid to correct someone just because of who they are it's time to grow a pair.

[justnzane]

If you're afraid to correct someone just because of who they are it's time to grow a pair.

Don't you know, only a select few in media have a pair. As much as I hate him, O'Reilly is one of them, and Rather has a large set too.

[Wacka]

Now, you don't see most libs (besides pBills, and Rolling Stone) making McCain jokes in such a bad taste.

 

 

It's true.

The difference between the names Obama and Osama are the B and the S.

I could have posted the site where I saw it with the pictures of both wearing the turbans.

 

Lighten up Francis.

[elegantelliotoffen]

Yeah it's not big deal. Other than he didn't call him Osama, he called him Osama bin Laden and this is from someone who talks for a living. But what killed me most of all is the others just sat there and didn't point it out.

 

I've seen others, including conservatives, say the same thing. It's no big deal.

 

Mitt Romney

 

John Ashcroft

 

[Typical TBD Guy]

This thread has lost all sense of direction.

 

Shouldn't we first define what it means to be a "racist" since I'm guessing everyone has different criteria for this label? How about:

 

1. A belief that one must be inferior to another in an academic, athletic, or other endeavor solely due to skin color and not due to one's individual merit?

2. A desire to separate from or not want to associate with a person as a friend, employee, or fellow citizen strictly because of that person's skin color?

 

Next, shouldn't we dissect the evidence of racism at Fox News? Comedy Central gave us 5 specific clips:

 

1. The "Barack Hussein Obama" comment from Steve Doocy on Fox and Friends

2. The comment from the lady saying we should take out both Osama and Obama

3. E.D. Hill's "terrorist fist jab" comment

4. O'Reilly's "articulate" comment

5. John Gibson's call for white people to make more babies

 

My own opinion is that Fox News - while often blatantly conservative and pro-Republican - is not racist. The first two clips I listed seem to have been motivated by political biases only. Hill's defense was that she was merely providing a description of what others were saying; it should also be noted that Fox News quickly cancelled her show. O'Reilly's soundbite clip was clearly taken out of context. I'm not exactly sure what's going on with Gibson, so you make the call:

 

 

If you watch the clip in its entirety, it may have just been a poorly worded explanation of a social trend.

[OCinBuffalo]

Looks like I stumped you!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'll save you some time and make your response for you - "far left liberal liberal far left socialist marxist far left left wing blah blah blah blah"

What? You stumped me? Is English your first language? Perhaps you got the literal down but haven't gotten to the idiom part yet?

 

Stumped me, yeah. In the case that you are simply that ill-informed, perhaps you need to do a search on who is behind Daily Kos and who funds it, before you try to make your point with it. Here's the clue you didn't get: it's a propaganda rag the likes of which we haven't seen in this country since the 30's. And yes, it's socialist, no doubt about it. Ya see, I call things like I see them = as they are. You don't like it? Too f'ing bad. If you don't know enough to check out where you get your information before you post it, you deserve every bit of bashing that you get from me and everyone else, and I'll even go as far as say Alaska_Darin gets to wail on you as well.

 

You deserve it, because stupidity is a choice.

It's always the liberals fault... didn't you know that?

I have never and will never say that. I say something similar but not the same: "when it is liberals fault they will never admit it, when they are wrong they will stubbornly hang onto whatever failed policy to protect their ideology instead of doing what is right" Yeah, that sounds like me. This is always why I get a kick out of liberals, who by definition won't fix social security by making it at least = to a savings account-->thereby consigning it to failure in about 15 years, giving George W Bush sh-- for being inflexible about his failed policies. It's the ultimate in hypocrisy. It doesn't get any worse.

One: Let's stop calling CNN/NBC the "extreme-left" and Fox "extreme-right." They are center-left and center-right, respectively. Let's not act like there's really much difference in the BS they spew. Pepsi or Coke, that's all. The Cable TV News spectrum does not encompass the real far-left or far-right, so let's not pretend Olbermann is Marx and O'Reilly is Franco. Two: the disparity in viewership reflects the political stances of the nation- more people consider themselves Republican/right leaning that Democrat/left-leaning. It is more likely that a person would gather their news and opinion from like-minded sources, ergo, more people watch Fox.

One: I wasn't. That much should have been obvious and reading comprehension is important. I said that O'Reilly uses issues like Jessica's law to attack the far-left, not the center left or anybody else. I didn't say Fox news was far-right. I didn't say CNN/MSNBC was far-left. I did say that they are attacking O'Reilly for having the same views as, essentially lumping him in with, Sean Hannity, and that they get smoked by O'Reilly every time they do. I'm not saying that the two guys are worlds apart, but they differ on many very important issues. O'Reilly consistently attacks the far-right, Hannity does not-->only in cases where they are to the left of him.

Conclusion: You missed my point. MSNBC has now become the "attack O'Reilly" 24 hours a day channel, they suck at it, Air America tried and they sucked at it and it got them canceled, and that's why the ratings are where they are. They suck at it because it's a loser's game, and America loves a winner and will not tolerate a loser. If they wanted to be the "left of center" 24 hours a day channel instead of the "attack O'Reilly" channel, they should take a page out of his play book and put focus on things that only the extreme right wants, like blocking any and all sex education, and crush them for it.

 

Two: That's possible but I doubt it. The simple fact is that American's wanna back a winner, they want to be on the winning side, and hate losing. They hate lame-ass anything. Fox is giving them what they want. You don't get lame-ass Tucker Carlson on Fox, you get Arch-Conservative, loud mouth, totally phony at times but doesn't care as long as conservatives win, Sean Hannity, and he wins a lot of debates, whether you like it or not. I think a lot of people have a point when they say that Alan Colmes isn't a fair representation of the left against Hannity, but then again, he seems to be coming around.

 

Similar but key difference in O'Reilly: he says he's the people's crusader, he does go out and crusade on behalf of the people. The fact is that he comes down on some unsuspecting liberal whack-job who thought it was ok to sentence a child-raper to 3 months in jail like artillery against a poodle = after all is said and done, you don't even remember that there ever was a poodle, much less what it's name was. How do you vote against them/get them deposed/make them resign if you can't remember who they are? But, nonetheless, there can be no doubt that he is genuine. That's genuine spit coming out of mouth on one of his tirades and real anger at the far-left pussys, I mean, poodles, out there who are essentially trying to turn this country into a lame-ass socialist, Euro lazy-ocracy.

Conclusion: the fact is that most of the country does lean right, and the reason is most of the country believes in self-reliance over self-ishness or self-involvement.

 

The original poster's whining doesn't change the ratings, the overall view of America that you should do your own part first and not be allowed to be lazy, and neither does calling all the people who watch FOX "racists". Especially when you are talking about somebody like me, who goes out of their way to get info from multiple sources and multiple formats.

[OCinBuffalo]

touche, you did what Darin and OCin couldn't do. I will agree with you that them two are scumbag racists for their own cause.

 

Thank you, you saved a long response to OCin's post.

Too bad I wasn't trying to do any of that, and too bad that you apparently don't even watch FOX, but yet you criticize it? Shaprton and Jackson have been on FOX REPEATEDLY for years. So, by your own standards, Fox is racist, the other channels are not, but those other channels are bad because they have Sharpton and Jackson on, and apparently you don't realize that so does FOX. Yet, they are racist, and prejudiced generally against general people. Still laughing at that one.

 

Too bad Sharpton is on O'Reilly's show almost every other week, and both have been on Hannity & Colmes more times than I can count.

 

Looks like he didn't save you much of anything buddy. Looks like you have a lot of explaining to do. Looks like you need to actually watch something before you criticize it. Looks like you need to start thinking for yourself. What? Too lazy to actually think on your own? Rather have your girlfriend do it for you? (see how that works either way?)

Don't you know, only a select few in media have a pair. As much as I hate him, O'Reilly is one of them, and Rather has a large set too.

Why do you hate him? After your last post, this oughta be good. Tell me specifically why you hate him and you cannot cheat and ask your girlfriend for help. Hint: you might actually have to go and watch his show a few times to find out why you specifically hate him. Y'know like most people actually require that you see the Bills game before you comment on it.

[elegantelliotoffen]

What? You stumped me? Is English your first language? Perhaps you got the literal down but haven't gotten to the idiom part yet?

 

Stumped me, yeah. In the case that you are simply that ill-informed, perhaps you need to do a search on who is behind Daily Kos and who funds it, before you try to make your point with it. Here's the clue you didn't get: it's a propaganda rag the likes of which we haven't seen in this country since the 30's. And yes, it's socialist, no doubt about it. Ya see, I call things like I see them = as they are. You don't like it? Too f'ing bad. If you don't know enough to check out where you get your information before you post it, you deserve every bit of bashing that you get from me and everyone else, and I'll even go as far as say Alaska_Darin gets to wail on you as well.

 

What does dailykos have to do with Scott McClellan stating that as WH Press Secretary he fed Fox News commentators talking points?