Numark Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Bills are at #27 They will be improved this year with SS Donte Whitner and FS Ko Simpson both entering their third season. Simpson missed the majority of the 2007 season with a dislocated ankle, but should be ready to return as the starter, and the duo gives the Bills two young playmakers with good instincts who can make plays in traffic or in space. Buffalo returns starters Terrence McGee and Jabari Greer back at corner, and while McGee lacks ideal size he does have good quickness and ball skills. Greer has better size to match up with receivers and is very competitive. The addition of CB Leodis McKelvin through the draft will provide depth and competition, and McKelvin should be at least the nickel corner when the season begins. Cowboys Raiders Eagles Colts Chargers Seahawks Ravens Panthers Broncos Packers Bucs Redskins Jaguars Steelers Bears Giants Vikings Titans Pats Lions Cardinals 49ers Dolphins Rams Chiefs Jets Bills Bengals Saints Browns Texans Falcons
BillsVet Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 If the DL puts some pressure on opposing QB's this year, McGee, McKelvin, Greer, James, Whitner, et al. will look a whole lot better than 27th best. If not, it's going to be a long season.
R. Rich Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I know it's not very flattering, but is it that far off? Even though it's not what we Bills fans want to hear, our DBs will need time to become a cohesive unit. I'll bet those rankings will look a lot better in another season or two.
drnykterstein Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I know it's not very flattering, but is it that far off? Even though it's not what we Bills fans want to hear, our DBs will need time to become a cohesive unit. I'll bet those rankings will look a lot better in another season or two. I think they are better than that right now. Just have not fully shown it yet. But they will. Give it a few months.
R. Rich Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I think they are better than that right now. Just have not fully shown it yet. But they will. Give it a few months. That's the whole point. They haven't shown anything yet to be rated higher. But I think they will.
obie_wan Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I think they are better than that right now. Just have not fully shown it yet. But they will. Give it a few months. They may be better but the stats may actually look worse if the DL actually stops teams from running at will and forces them to throw more.
R. Rich Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 They may be better but the stats may actually look worse if the DL actually stops teams from running at will and forces them to throw more. Or, we could end up w/ an improved pass rush (interior via McCargo and Johnson; exterior via a more consistent effort from our DEs and our OLBs-one can hope) and still see better results from our secondary, aided by more hurried throws and maybe even (dare I say it?) the occasional interception or two.
John from Riverside Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Does anybody remember when our 2 young safeties were first on the field and it seemed like nobody even wanted to throw against them.... Ko is back
krazykat Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 If the DL puts some pressure on opposing QB's this year, McGee, McKelvin, Greer, James, Whitner, et al. will look a whole lot better than 27th best. If not, it's going to be a long season. Some of us having been saying that since Donahoe got here.
BillsVet Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Does anybody remember when our 2 young safeties were first on the field and it seemed like nobody even wanted to throw against them.... Ko is back JfH I hope you're being a tad sarcastic with that one. Whitner and Simpson benefitted greatly from Clements and McGee giving them the freedom to learn and make mistakes two years ago. With that in mind, I need to see more from Simpson before we think the FS position is a strength.
Adam Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 If the DL puts some pressure on opposing QB's this year, McGee, McKelvin, Greer, James, Whitner, et al. will look a whole lot better than 27th best. If not, it's going to be a long season. That is an excellent point. Too many people want to rate units of an offense or defense or individual players- these units mean nothing, because the players do not compete in a vacuum. You look at the defensive unit as a whole- is the run defense going to be good enough to let the pass rush tee off on the QB? Is the pass rush going to allow the secondary to cover? Then you have to look at the whole team- is the offense or defense putting undue pressure on the other side of the ball to carry the team?
BUFFALOTONE Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Who the f@*% does Miami or Ny have in there secondary worth a chiit? Someone enlighten me. I know were not world beaters in the secondary but Jeeeebus Cripes.
bills_red Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Wow, Chiefs really? I thought they had the worst if not close to it.
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 Some of us having been saying that since Donahoe got here. You mean it only seems like forever? The secondary has some talent. Unfortunately, they didn't have much of anything on the first 2 levels, so it was sort of hard to evaluate the 3rd other than by a thumb in the wind... or out the window of a car going down the Thruway.
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 I think it is hard to predict based on last years performances. The injuries skew any predictions. I am not sure we have the 27th ranked D backs. I just don't know because we have no clue what our defense looks like because of the injuries and the additions. I actually think our DB's are going to be much better than people think.
Fingon Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 McGee: 5.8 YPA Longest completion allowed was 25 yards. 21 PD's and 4 INTS. The Average YPA is around 8 for a corner.
Bill from NYC Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 I know it's not very flattering, but is it that far off? Even though it's not what we Bills fans want to hear, our DBs will need time to become a cohesive unit. I'll bet those rankings will look a lot better in another season or two. I agree. By then we will have 7 or 8 first round draft choices on that unit.
Lori Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 I know it's not very flattering, but is it that far off? Even though it's not what we Bills fans want to hear, our DBs will need time to become a cohesive unit. I'll bet those rankings will look a lot better in another season or two. You have a point; I wouldn't put them in the top half. At least not yet. But ... behind the stinkin' Fish? Really? Have they seen Miami play since Madison and Surtain left town?
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