Beerball Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Malcolm Kelly signed with the Redskins, 4 years--3.36m, 1.655m guaranteed. Kelly was pick 51, Hardy 41. Kelly signed
Buftex Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Malcolm Kelly signed with the Redskins, 4 years--3.36m, 1.655m guaranteed. Kelly was pick 51, Hardy 41. Kelly signed I know that is a second round pick, but doesn't that seem like a low number to you?
thebug Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 I know that is a second round pick, but doesn't that seem like a low number to you? I was thinking the same thing...considering the cash being tossed around in the NFL these days.
VOR Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 After the first round, the money drops-off precipitously. I was figuring Hardy would get approximately a 4-year $4M deal with about half guaranteed. And Kelly's deal makes me more confident of that.
Max997 Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Malcolm Kelly signed with the Redskins, 4 years--3.36m, 1.655m guaranteed. Kelly was pick 51, Hardy 41. Kelly signed it must be a slow day when you're thinking about the 41st pick signing and it should pave the way for the 51st pick to sign is anyone actually worried about Hardy signing?
lets_go_bills Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 I know that is a second round pick, but doesn't that seem like a low number to you? It does, but the ridiculous rookie contracts pretty much only go to the top 5 draft picks. I drops off dramatically after that.
ax4782 Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 It does, but the ridiculous rookie contracts pretty much only go to the top 5 draft picks. I drops off dramatically after that. True that. I see Hardy getting perhaps slightly more than what Kelly got, but not much more. Say 4 yrs 6 mil. The question is going to be what they sign McKelvin too. I would guess there you're talking about 5 yrs 19 mil? Maybe more?
Ned Flanders Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 I would guess there you're talking about 5 yrs 19 mil? Maybe more? I know Gene Upshaw believes differently, but the rookie salary pool is way outta wack...the vets need to rise up and challenge their union leader here, not just sit back and whine like they've been doing. If there was not a cap, I would tend to believe Upshaw when he sez that the big rookie contracts raise all boats...but there is a cap and the vets are getting screwed.
silvermike Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Yeah, I think everybody besides Upshaw and Jake Long agree that the system is broken at the top of round one. There's a limited number of dollars out there, and it's a zero sum game: every dollar that goes to a rookie doesn't go to a veteran.
VOR Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 So then, since there IS a cap, why does Upshaw still support it, if it supposedly hurts the veteran players?
Max997 Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 True that. I see Hardy getting perhaps slightly more than what Kelly got, but not much more. Say 4 yrs 6 mil. The question is going to be what they sign McKelvin too. I would guess there you're talking about 5 yrs 19 mil? Maybe more? what would possibly make you think Hardy would get more then the guy drafted 10 picks before him
HurlyBurly51 Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Malcolm Kelly signed with the Redskins, 4 years--3.36m, 1.655m guaranteed. Kelly was pick 51, Hardy 41. Kelly signed what would possibly make you think Hardy would get more then the guy drafted 10 picks before him See above. Remember, we had our choice of Hardy, Kelly, and Sweed.
generaLee83 Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Yeah, I think everybody besides Upshaw and Jake Long agree that the system is broken at the top of round one. There's a limited number of dollars out there, and it's a zero sum game: every dollar that goes to a rookie doesn't go to a veteran. I hope Long has a worse career than Mike Williams.
Fingon Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 I hope Long has a worse career than Mike Williams. Why? He signed right away, and for less than what he could have gotten by holding out. Hell, Matt Ryan got more than he did. I hope he is a good player, just not twice a year.
cantankerous Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Why? He signed right away, and for less than what he could have gotten by holding out. Hell, Matt Ryan got more than he did. I hope he is a good player, just not twice a year. Because he is a Miami Dolphin. That's why.
DrDawkinstein Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483884 Kelly signs 4 years/$3.3mil deal. maybe this will help with signing Hardy.... maybe.
DrDawkinstein Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showt...&hl=Malcolm DANG IT! i even searched for "malcolm kelly" too! my bad
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 The Bills will have to deal with a clause more specific to off the field issues when it comes to Hardy's contract
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