pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 John Adams said: You talk about how middle America has the choice of moving to Canada or voting for one of the two major parties like it's a binary proposition. I was taxing your brain to consider other options beyond Canada and Dem/Rep. Again, step out of line. Maybe you can vote for someone you believe in instead of someone you admit you don't. Or not. March on. In regards to people moving to Canada... maybe you can understand sarcasm. Whether you believe it or not, I am actually voting for someone I believe in. So who are you most likely to vote for? Barr? A write-in candidate?
Wacka Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 You actually believe in that socialist who's "change" is actua;;y changing his position about everything every day or so? I voted for Fred Thompson in the primary, but there is no way I'd vot for Obama, so I'm voting for McCain.
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Wacka said: You actually believe in that socialist who's "change" is actua;;y changing his position about everything every day or so? I voted for Fred Thompson in the primary, but there is no way I'd vot for Obama, so I'm voting for McCain. I believe that Obama is the best candidate for working-class Americans. That is why I am backing him.
John Adams Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 pBills said: I believe that Obama is the best candidate for working-class Americans. That is why I am backing him. Rolling back our free trade agreements will be just awesome for the working class. Barr? Maybe but not likely. He seems intellectually dishonest. It's one thing to change a position occasionally. It's another thing to lobby hard for one side. Then the other. On multiple issues.
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 John Adams said: Rolling back our free trade agreements will be just awesome for the working class. Barr? Maybe but not likely. He seems intellectually dishonest. It's one thing to change a position occasionally. It's another thing to lobby hard for one side. Then the other. On multiple issues. Yes, because they are working out so well right now? Trade agreements work well when all sides on the same playing field. Which we are not with China.
Simon Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 pBills said: Let me know when that legit third party comes in. pBills said: I did(n't) like Hillary Clinton one bit... However, I would have voted for her It's lemmings like you that make it impossible for 3rd parties to make more headway when you continue to vote for people you don't even like because they have a D or an R by their name. YOU are part of the problem. YOU, not somebody else, YOU.
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Simon said: It's lemmings like you that make it impossible for 3rd parties to make more headway when you continue to vote for people you don't even like because they have a D or an R by their name.YOU are part of the problem. YOU, not somebody else, YOU. Wow, is lemmings the word of the day today? Come on people use a thesaurus. I am part of the problem? Just me. Ok, and that's because I do not follow your beliefs? Is that because I chose a different candidate than you? If a third party EVER came up with a viable candidate, one worth while I would most certainly look and do some research. Until then I will base my decisions on who will best represent working-class americans.
Chilly Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 pBills said: Wow, is lemmings the word of the day today? Come on people use a thesaurus. I am part of the problem? Just me. Ok, and that's because I do not follow your beliefs? Is that because I chose a different candidate than you? If a third party EVER came up with a viable candidate, one worth while I would most certainly look and do some research. Until then I will base my decisions on who will best represent working-class americans. Explain why you think 3rd party candidates are not viable, and what would happen to get one who was.
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 BlueFire said: Explain why you think 3rd party candidates are not viable, and what would happen to get one who was. I used to be an Independent. I am now a registered Democrat and have been for some time - I know, shocker. However, that does not mean that I will stray if there is a candidate that feel is better for the issues I care about. I do not believe that I have seen that in a third party candidate as of yet. If one comes along, I'll review the stance of the issues and make a decision. Just like anyone else.
John Adams Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 pBills said: Until then I will base my decisions on who will best represent working-class americans. What is a "working-class American?"
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 I do love how I have to justify my position, my beliefs all of the time. Yet, we have people here that just simply B word and moan about the system but have no ideas on how to change it. It's always, "I hate having a two party system" "Both candidates suck" etc., etc. Then they feel as though they have the right to bash someone because they differ from them. In my case, calling me a lemming because I do not follow their beliefs. They make those statements because they THINK they know based on a message board. Fact is they know nothing about me. That is complete and utter BS.
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 John Adams said: What is a "working-class American?" Would you rather I say Middle-class? How about someone who represents Labor?
Wacka Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 pBills said: I believe that Obama is the best candidate for working-class Americans. That is why I am backing him. Will you still be when companies lay off many people because of all the taxes he wants to levy? Taxing more in an economic downturn is suicide. Companies don't pay taxes, they just pass it on to the consumer.
KD in CA Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Wacka said: Will you still be when companies lay off many people because of all the taxes he wants to levy? Taxing more in an economic downturn is suicide. Companies don't pay taxes, they just pass it on to the consumer. I think this sums up the pBills mindset.
/dev/null Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 KD in CT said: I think this sums up the pBills mindset.
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Wacka said: Will you still be when companies lay off many people because of all the taxes he wants to levy? Taxing more in an economic downturn is suicide. Companies don't pay taxes, they just pass it on to the consumer. Let me ask you this. How does this country start pay off the deficit? Unfortunately due to ridiculous spending the tax payer will most likely have to pay off a large amount of this. Also, companies are laying off more and more with the Bush tax cuts. 62,000 lost their job last month? Companies are also heading out the U.S. at a ridiculous rate - that too has to stop or hopefully be slowed down.
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 KD in CT said: I think this sums up the pBills mindset. Fine, I'll play some kids games. KD in CT's mindset written down... link
Chilly Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 pBills said: I do love how I have to justify my position, my beliefs all of the time. Yet, we have people here that just simply B word and moan about the system but have no ideas on how to change it. It's always, "I hate having a two party system" "Both candidates suck" etc., etc. Then they feel as though they have the right to bash someone because they differ from them. In my case, calling me a lemming because I do not follow their beliefs. They make those statements because they THINK they know based on a message board. Fact is they know nothing about me. That is complete and utter BS. Working with candidates, I'm sure you've heard of party ID - you might even know how important it is. The fact that you identify yourself as a Democrat allows people to make significant judgments about your political beliefs.
Chilly Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 pBills said: Let me ask you this. How does this country start pay off the deficit? Unfortunately due to ridiculous spending the tax payer will most likely have to pay off a large amount of this. Also, companies are laying off more and more with the Bush tax cuts. 62,000 lost their job last month? Companies are also heading out the U.S. at a ridiculous rate - that too has to stop or hopefully be slowed down. Says the guy supporting Barack Obama. Irony at its finest.
Andrew in CA Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 KD in CT said: I think this sums up the pBills mindset. That's one of the funniest websites I've seen.
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