Wow, Where to start with this gem?

[SD Jarhead]

Obama and his plans for the military. This is some comical schit!

 

-I'm going to pull us immediately out of Iraq unless I don't.

-I'm going to give you a raise, but it's going to take awhile.

-I'm going to listen to the General's even though I haven't met with any of them yet.

 

Here's a gem:

 

Obama said he did not want to be more specific because he did not want to make promises he might not be able to keep. “I think we can do a much better job than we’re doing right now,” he said. But, he added, “I want to be honest: We are going to be in a tight budget situation. We’re not going to be able to do everything all at once.”

 

Another classic:

 

Pulling U.S. combat forces out of Iraq would free up money for personnel programs and a host of other military needs, Obama said, citing the $10 billion to $12 billion monthly cost of military operations there. He did not mention that funding for Iraq has, so far, been emergency funding on top of the regular peacetime budget that would not automatically be diverted to other military programs.

 

And this about his vast experience traveling the world as a child:

 

“As somebody who has worked on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on critical issues like nuclear proliferation ... as somebody who has traveled widely and grew up traveling around the world, I think I have a clear sense of the nature of both the transnational threats and challenges but also the opportunities that are going to determine our safety and security for the foreseeable future. And that’s why I think I can be an effective commander in chief,” Obama said.

 

And the ultimate doublespeak:

 

Getting U.S. combat troops out of Iraq is a key Obama goal, and one where he said he is misunderstood. His campaign materials say Obama would begin withdrawing combat troops from Iraq, one or two brigades a month, as soon as he takes office. But he added in the interview that the start of the withdrawal also depends on the security conditions on the ground.

 

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/07/military_obama_070708/

 

This guy's a peach...

 

Go Messiah in '08!

[KD in CA]

Go Messiah in '08!

 

However, the Messiah is having trouble connecting with pet owners. Yup, somebody actually took the time to research and write about this.

[pBills]

Wow and I got blasted for listing McCain's flip-flops. I wonder what would happen if I listed some of his worst statements.

[pBills]

Ahh what the hell....

 

 

"That's not too important. What's important is the casualties." --on when U.S. troops will return from Iraq, "Today," NBC, June 11, 2008

 

"I will veto every single beer, um, bill with earmarks." --speaking at the National Small Business Summit, Washington, D.C., June 10, 2008 (Watch video clip)

 

"Well, basically, it's a Google." --on how he's conducting his VP search, Richmond, Virginia, June 9, 2008

 

"We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies." --Kenner, Louisiana, June 3, 2008 (Watch video clip)

 

"I'm glad to have his endorsement. I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything. And thanks for asking." --after being asked by George Stephanopoulos about receiving the endorsement of Evangelical pastor Rev. John Hagee, who has made a number of controversial remarks, including calling Catholicism "The Great Whore" and blaming Hurricane Katrina on gays

 

"Make it a hundred...That would be fine with me." -to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years

 

"I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."

 

"Well, it's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran. That's well known. And it's unfortunate." -before correcting himself by saying Iran was training "extremists," not Al Qaeda (Watch video clip)

 

"I will conduct a respectful debate. Now, it will be dispirited -- it will be spirited -- because there are stark differences. I am a proud conservative, liberal Republica-- conservative Republican...Hello? Easy there." (Watch video clip)

 

"I am a illiterate that has to rely on my wife for all of the assistance I can get." -after being asked whether us uses a Mac or a PC (Watch video clip)

 

"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book."

 

"It's not social issues I care about."

 

"F**k you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room." --to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), during a testy exchange about immigration legislation

 

"There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods today." --prior to visiting a Baghdad market while being flanked by 22 soldiers, 10 armored Humvees, and two Apache attack helicopters

 

"You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran." (Watch video clip)

 

"Americans are very frustrated, and they have every right to be. We've wasted a lot of our most precious treasure, which is American lives." --on the Iraq war

 

"I think I'd just commit suicide." --in October 2006, on the prospects of the Democrats taking back the Senate in the November election

 

"No, I'm calling you a f*cking jerk." --to fellow Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, when Grassley asked "Are you calling me stupid?"

 

"Only an a**hole would put together a budget like this ... I wouldn't call you an a**hole unless you really were an a**hole." --to Budget Committee Chairman and fellow Repulican Sen. Pete Domenici, during a Senate budget hearing

 

"I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the clean government."

 

"There's no doubt in my mind that we will prevail and there's no doubt in my mind, once these people are gone, that we will be welcomed as liberators." --on the Iraq war, "Hardball" interview, March 24, 2003

 

"We're going to prevail and we will win and it'll be one of the best things that's happened to America and the world in a long time 'cause it'll reverberate throughout the Middle East." --on the Iraq war, "Meet the Press" interview, March 3, 2003

 

"I said, 'The nice thing about Alzheimer's is you get to hide your own Easter eggs.'"

 

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." -to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter (Watch spoof video)

 

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." --at a 1998 Republican fundraiser

[erynthered]

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." --at a 1998 Republican fundraiser

 

 

He's got my vote now!!

[SilverNRed]

Ahh what the hell....

 

 

"That's not too important. What's important is the casualties." --on when U.S. troops will return from Iraq, "Today," NBC, June 11, 2008

 

"I will veto every single beer, um, bill with earmarks." --speaking at the National Small Business Summit, Washington, D.C., June 10, 2008 (Watch video clip)

 

"Well, basically, it's a Google." --on how he's conducting his VP search, Richmond, Virginia, June 9, 2008

 

"We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies." --Kenner, Louisiana, June 3, 2008 (Watch video clip)

 

"I'm glad to have his endorsement. I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything. And thanks for asking." --after being asked by George Stephanopoulos about receiving the endorsement of Evangelical pastor Rev. John Hagee, who has made a number of controversial remarks, including calling Catholicism "The Great Whore" and blaming Hurricane Katrina on gays

 

"Make it a hundred...That would be fine with me." -to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years

 

"I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."

 

"Well, it's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran. That's well known. And it's unfortunate." -before correcting himself by saying Iran was training "extremists," not Al Qaeda (Watch video clip)

 

"I will conduct a respectful debate. Now, it will be dispirited -- it will be spirited -- because there are stark differences. I am a proud conservative, liberal Republica-- conservative Republican...Hello? Easy there." (Watch video clip)

 

"I am a illiterate that has to rely on my wife for all of the assistance I can get." -after being asked whether us uses a Mac or a PC (Watch video clip)

 

"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book."

 

"It's not social issues I care about."

 

"F**k you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room." --to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), during a testy exchange about immigration legislation

 

"There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods today." --prior to visiting a Baghdad market while being flanked by 22 soldiers, 10 armored Humvees, and two Apache attack helicopters

 

"You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran." (Watch video clip)

 

"Americans are very frustrated, and they have every right to be. We've wasted a lot of our most precious treasure, which is American lives." --on the Iraq war

 

"I think I'd just commit suicide." --in October 2006, on the prospects of the Democrats taking back the Senate in the November election

 

"No, I'm calling you a f*cking jerk." --to fellow Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, when Grassley asked "Are you calling me stupid?"

 

"Only an a**hole would put together a budget like this ... I wouldn't call you an a**hole unless you really were an a**hole." --to Budget Committee Chairman and fellow Repulican Sen. Pete Domenici, during a Senate budget hearing

 

"I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I'd rather have the clean government."

 

"There's no doubt in my mind that we will prevail and there's no doubt in my mind, once these people are gone, that we will be welcomed as liberators." --on the Iraq war, "Hardball" interview, March 24, 2003

 

"We're going to prevail and we will win and it'll be one of the best things that's happened to America and the world in a long time 'cause it'll reverberate throughout the Middle East." --on the Iraq war, "Meet the Press" interview, March 3, 2003

 

"I said, 'The nice thing about Alzheimer's is you get to hide your own Easter eggs.'"

 

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." -to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter (Watch spoof video)

 

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." --at a 1998 Republican fundraiser

A lot of these sound like jokes he's telling, along with edited versions of the "100 years" quote and the "it's the casualties that matter" quote. McCain quotes that are basically doctored aren't all that impressive.

 

But good job taking his jokes out of context. Very persuasive.

[Max Fischer]

Obama and his plans for the military. This is some comical schit!

 

-I'm going to pull us immediately out of Iraq unless I don't.

-I'm going to give you a raise, but it's going to take awhile.

-I'm going to listen to the General's even though I haven't met with any of them yet.

 

Here's a gem:

 

Obama said he did not want to be more specific because he did not want to make promises he might not be able to keep. “I think we can do a much better job than we’re doing right now,” he said. But, he added, “I want to be honest: We are going to be in a tight budget situation. We’re not going to be able to do everything all at once.”

 

Another classic:

 

Pulling U.S. combat forces out of Iraq would free up money for personnel programs and a host of other military needs, Obama said, citing the $10 billion to $12 billion monthly cost of military operations there. He did not mention that funding for Iraq has, so far, been emergency funding on top of the regular peacetime budget that would not automatically be diverted to other military programs.

 

And this about his vast experience traveling the world as a child:

 

“As somebody who has worked on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on critical issues like nuclear proliferation ... as somebody who has traveled widely and grew up traveling around the world, I think I have a clear sense of the nature of both the transnational threats and challenges but also the opportunities that are going to determine our safety and security for the foreseeable future. And that’s why I think I can be an effective commander in chief,” Obama said.

 

And the ultimate doublespeak:

 

Getting U.S. combat troops out of Iraq is a key Obama goal, and one where he said he is misunderstood. His campaign materials say Obama would begin withdrawing combat troops from Iraq, one or two brigades a month, as soon as he takes office. But he added in the interview that the start of the withdrawal also depends on the security conditions on the ground.

 

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/07/military_obama_070708/

 

This guy's a peach...

 

Go Messiah in '08!

 

 

Which part don't you agree with?

[GG]

[moron broken record - on]

 

Because one candidate is running on a platform of CHANGE, and the the other one is not.

 

Since you're so skilled at pilfering thoughts of others from these internets, go to the official campaign sites of both, and see which one features "CHANGE"

 

McCain's flip flops aren't an issue because everyone knows that he serpentines. No wonder Pasta Joe has holes in his head from the primaries. Is George Romero in charge of Obama's supporters?

[Simon]

Which part don't you agree with?

He probably didn't even read it, just saw it was related to somebody from the "other" side and felt the need to mock it. If one of his conservative heroes had said the exact same thing he'd be falling all over himself to defend its brilliance.

[erynthered]

He probably didn't even read it, just saw it was related to somebody from the "other" side and felt the need to mock it. If one of his conservative heroes had said the exact same thing he'd be falling all over himself to defend its brilliance.

 

 

Right. And the "other" side never does that. Got it. Thanks.

[Simon]

Right. And the "other" side never does that. Got it. Thanks.

Sure anytime, cuz that's exactly what I was saying.

[finknottle]

My favorite inconsistancy is the idea that his ~100b/year spending increases will be paid for with the money we are currently spending in Iraq...

 

... except when he criticizes the Iraq policy as misplaced, and argues that the militry and reconstruction efforts should be shifted to Afghanistan [presumably using the same money]...

 

... except when he say's that he's not going to act precipiticously and will listen to the generals about the pace of the withdrawl [presumably meaning that the money won't be freed up immeduiately].

[/dev/null]

Wow and I got blasted for listing McCain's flip-flops. I wonder what would happen if I listed some of his worst statements.

 

Never ceases to amaze me when i see partisan knee jerk "but the other guy does it too!" repsonses

[SD Jarhead]

He probably didn't even read it, just saw it was related to somebody from the "other" side and felt the need to mock it. If one of his conservative heroes had said the exact same thing he'd be falling all over himself to defend its brilliance.

 

Yea sure, I didn't read it. That's why I posted quotes from the article. It's not that its from the 'other' side. I just find it hilarious that The Messiah speaks out of both sides of his mouth and doesn't get called on it.

 

So, smart moderator guy with 10 zillion posts, enlighten me as what Obama's plan is for getting out of Iraq, because I can't figure it out. Is it that we're going to be completely out of there in 17 months as he has been running on and is listed on his propaganda site or has his position changed to one more nuanced? When will he start looking into the conditions on the ground?

 

I also like his position of I'm sure I can do a better job but I'm not sure how or what I'm going to do to make it better. And as Finknottle posted above-he's straight up full of schit when he talks about spending the money he'll save by getting us out of Iraq when it IS A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION AND NOT PART OF THE BUDGET. GET IT?

 

I didn't think so...

[pBills]

Never ceases to amaze me when i see partisan knee jerk "but the other guy does it too!" repsonses

 

 

 

I thought we were listing some gems. I found most of McCain's funny... others a bit on the scary side.

[SD Jarhead]

I thought we were listing some gems. I found most of McCain's funny... others a bit on the scary side.

 

Oooo, that John McCain, he's scary

[pBills]

Oooo, that John McCain, he's scary

 

 

Just as scary as you find Obama to be.

[SD Jarhead]

Nice try. Find where I ever said I was afraid of The Messiah. Dude, grow some nads or go see a doctor and ask him when yours will drop. Or stop posting stupid schit.

[Wacka]

Obama is scary because he is a real socialist, unless he "changes" again.

[pBills]

Nice try. Find where I ever said I was afraid of The Messiah. Dude, grow some nads or go see a doctor and ask him when yours will drop. Or stop posting stupid schit.

 

 

I think your last post was perfect. Talk about posting stupid schit.