Picnic table F'er sentenced

[Da Big Man]

Do you realize the type of society that you advocate is akin to the Taliban run Afghanistan.

 

There is one basic rule for a free society.....and that is that the individuals of that society can enjoy freedom of any sort as long as they do not either remove the freedoms of other people or pose a reasonable threat to the society.

 

You advocate a society where only certain sanctioned freedoms are allowed.....just as the Taliban did. If it is deemed illegal for an individual to do something which does not remove another's rights & does not pose any threat to society.....who determines what is and is not legal?

 

Let's make homosexual acts illegal.....let's make anal sex illegal between man & woman.....let's make the use of any sex aids illegal.....let's make oral sex illegal.....let's make anything 'unusual' or 'deviant' illegal. Who makes the rules? Some would have us make pre-marital sex illegal....contraception illegal.....anything other than missionary illegal.....divorce.

 

 

Gay marriage? I've always thought that they should just remove the term 'marriage' from the situation as it has deep emotional/religious connotations to it. I can't see that there is anything wrong with two people of any sort.....whether it be a hetro couple, a gay couple or simply two friends or family members who wish to devote themselves legally to each other and function as a unit rather than two individuals.

 

Pedophilia???? Please try to understand the difference between an act that takes away the rights of another(pedophilia, rape, blowing up towers) and an act that doesn't(gay marriage, deviant solo sex, the wearing of a turban).

 

Why does this man deserve to be made an example of? Assuming he wasn't trying to be seen by anyone, what did he do that was wrong(i.e. taking the rights of another individual)?

 

You talk about "how many rights are you willing to give up?" Please name one right that is given up by society for others to be free?

going to extremes is for women. one day we will reap what we sow. gay men rarely engage in monogomous relationships even when they are "lifepartners" they still enjoy strange. now I think this is another topic for another day. I have never seen men act like women. we all understand what we are talking about and yet we go to extremes. I am not ashamed of my feelings and haven't been corrupted by the media that wants me to feel bad for being an affluent american who works hard everyday to uphold the traditions of this once great country. the right I can think of at the present is marriage it is a sacred bond between a man and woman. primary reason for marriage is to procreate. this shouldn't be stained because homosexuals want it, just to say they got it. do some research, do you know that a large number of gay men (nambla, priests, ) prey on young boys do you know that some with money can travel to third world countries to have sex with minors. please wake up, freedom yes but the next sodom and gomora, no. ( any type o's tgregg99). desensitization is how it is done. sexual depravity does escalated. I weep for this nation. I weep for our children.

[Da Big Man]

you are a big green bildo weenie.

you mean a whammy weenie?

[Da Big Man]

So the people outraged at the picnic table umbrella hole f0@ker are the crazy ones?

css still in the house?

[Da Big Man]

you are a big green bildo weenie.

sweet dreams you skirt wearing bittche$.

[Dibs]

going to extremes is for women. one day we will reap what we sow. gay men rarely engage in monogomous relationships even when they are "lifepartners" they still enjoy strange. now I think this is another topic for another day. I have never seen men act like women. we all understand what we are talking about and yet we go to extremes. I am not ashamed of my feelings and haven't been corrupted by the media that wants me to feel bad for being an affluent american who works hard everyday to uphold the traditions of this once great country. the right I can think of at the present is marriage it is a sacred bond between a man and woman. primary reason for marriage is to procreate. this shouldn't be stained because homosexuals want it, just to say they got it. do some research, do you know that a large number of gay men (nambla, priests, ) prey on young boys do you know that some with money can travel to third world countries to have sex with minors. please wake up, freedom yes but the next sodom and gomora, no. ( any type o's tgregg99). desensitization is how it is done. sexual depravity does escalated. I weep for this nation. I weep for our children.

Speaking in broad emotive opinion without any logical backup is not an intelligent way to progress in a discargument.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt in my previous email but it is now obvious that you are not capable of thinking rationally on this topic......you did not address or rebut even one of my points apart from stating 'catch phrases' at me. I'm surprised you didn't resort to "It was Adam & Eve, not Adam and Steve."

Where I addressed the concepts of what freedom was......you responded with a bigoted rant.

 

Welcome to ignore.

[Ramius]

going to extremes is for women. one day we will reap what we sow. gay men rarely engage in monogomous relationships even when they are "lifepartners" they still enjoy strange. now I think this is another topic for another day. I have never seen men act like women. we all understand what we are talking about and yet we go to extremes. I am not ashamed of my feelings and haven't been corrupted by the media that wants me to feel bad for being an affluent american who works hard everyday to uphold the traditions of this once great country. the right I can think of at the present is marriage it is a sacred bond between a man and woman. primary reason for marriage is to procreate. this shouldn't be stained because homosexuals want it, just to say they got it. do some research, do you know that a large number of gay men (nambla, priests, ) prey on young boys do you know that some with money can travel to third world countries to have sex with minors. please wake up, freedom yes but the next sodom and gomora, no. ( any type o's tgregg99). desensitization is how it is done. sexual depravity does escalated. I weep for this nation. I weep for our children.

 

you know what the worst part of you being a complete scumbag and bigot is? That you are spreading your asinine bigoted beliefs to your 8 year old. Must be nice to know you are raising someone who is going to hate and be intolerant of anyone different than him.

[justnzane]

going to extremes is for women. one day we will reap what we sow. gay men rarely engage in monogomous relationships even when they are "lifepartners" they still enjoy strange. now I think this is another topic for another day. I have never seen men act like women. we all understand what we are talking about and yet we go to extremes. I am not ashamed of my feelings and haven't been corrupted by the media that wants me to feel bad for being an affluent american who works hard everyday to uphold the traditions of this once great country. the right I can think of at the present is marriage it is a sacred bond between a man and woman. primary reason for marriage is to procreate. this shouldn't be stained because homosexuals want it, just to say they got it. do some research, do you know that a large number of gay men (nambla, priests, ) prey on young boys do you know that some with money can travel to third world countries to have sex with minors. please wake up, freedom yes but the next sodom and gomora, no. ( any type o's tgregg99). desensitization is how it is done. sexual depravity does escalated. I weep for this nation. I weep for our children.

 

 

Ah, a churchie Since I don't believe in your prophet, can you pray to Jeebus for me

[drnykterstein]

I guess that's the main difference in the varying opinions of this issue. I DO see this guy as a danger and it's not because "the guy just wants to get off". For me, the big problem is when he chose to take this outdoors in view of other people.

 

Uhm... ??? From everything I understand, he didn't. Either way, it's his backyard.

[CosmicBills]

So the people outraged at the picnic table umbrella hole f0@ker are the crazy ones?

 

To be outraged ... yes. That is just plain silly. It's a dude whacking off in the privacy of his home. Whether he does it with a sock or a picnic table or a sex toy, who cares?

 

To waste tax dollars on confining a man for private sex with an inanimate object is just folly.

 

Is the guy normal? Hell no. Is he crazy? Who knows. Is he dangerous? Unless you got something more than assumptions about his escalation, then NO.

 

Freaks are everywhere (just look at one particular poster in this thread), as long as they aren't hurting anyone, then who cares? I promise you, that if there was a confirmed link between patio furniture molestation, or if this guy had any other behavioral markers leading rational people to believe he was a threat to a child or another person, everyone on this board who's laughing would be as outraged as you.

 

I've done extensive research and work regarding profiles of serial killers, serial rapists and the like including behavioral markers and risk factors for people becoming such socio and psychopaths. It was my job for most of the past year. And I assure you, no where in the literature is there a case of a man who masturbated to or with an inanimate object ESCALATING his sexual desires to violent or harmful levels.

 

Now, there might be other markers that combine with said masturbatory techniques that some serial rapists or killers have demonstrated -- but it's a pattern of CONTINUED deviance, not ISOLATED cases. And, if the cops had found any of those markers, the press damn well would have ran with it (kiddie porn on his computer, inappropriate conversations on the internet, stalking tendencies, spousal abuse etc). But guess what? They didn't. Why? Cause the guy is just a loon who gets off by sticking his crank in a wooden hole.

 

So yes, it is ridiculous to start a topic demanding that this guy be locked up for LONGER than 6 months. Or to postulate that he is a threat to society simply because he chooses to do something other than the norm.

 

But you have the right to your opinion. I just see it as a waste of time when you should just laugh at it.

 

What is crazy though is to take this topic, like Da Big Man did, and turn it into a political rant about liberals versus conservatives, Mexicans, Gays and 9/11. Though, that too just amuses me because Da Big Man (should we do a Freudian analysis on overcompensation when he chose that screen name?) just wants a pulpit to preach from. And everything he says cracks me up.

 

Not because he's a narrow minded bigot. Or even a homophobic, sexually repressed (and probably inadequate in countless ways) idealogue. But mainly because he proves what's great about free speech in particular. Free speech, and people's willingness ot use it, makes it SO much easier to identify the true asssholes.

 

There's no better proof of that than Da Big Man's posts in this thread. So cheers to Da Big Man for renewing my faith in the first amendment.

[Acantha]

you are a big green bildo weenie.

We have a winner.

 

I don't know why I am ALWAYS surprised by the level of gullibility around here.

[John Adams]

A Troll FRENZY!

[CosmicBills]

We have a winner.

 

I don't know why I am ALWAYS surprised by the level of gullibility around here.

Oh no, really? I fell for a Hogboy special?

 

Well, shiit ... I feel like an idiot

[WellDressed]

What kind of weirdo makes a box set of DVD's of a guy having sex with a table? Why didn't he go to the police after the first time he saw it, or just say something to the guy?

 

I was locked up with a guy who masturbated on a park bench, it was a freak show watching the judge.

[WellDressed]

You're assuming that the original table had given consent......and that he hadn't already done worse(i.e. destroyed previous tables).

 

Your absolutely right though.....had he not been caught then every piece of furniture in a ten block radius might have been in trouble.

 

Dubbs, you want to refinish his tables or something.....

[Da Big Man]

Ah, a churchie Since I don't believe in your prophet, can you pray to Jeebus for me

hey dikcie! don't attend church. I am a student of science notice no religious undertones in my enlightened statements.

[Da Big Man]

you know what the worst part of you being a complete scumbag and bigot is? That you are spreading your asinine bigoted beliefs to your 8 year old. Must be nice to know you are raising someone who is going to hate and be intolerant of anyone different than him.

I have to work twice as hard as the local liberal elementary school is to teach my daughter that there is no first and no last just the middle . just mediocre. same sex marriages and free hand outs for poor disenfranchised folk is ok in your world not in mine. i can tell you are probably under 25 years old by the resorting to hate and names thats what blue people do when they are out of ideas. heres one invent a new word. its not your fault, you are a victim. did you cheer when micheal jackson got aquitted? bet you did. let me guess, a pot smoking , no job havin, livin in moms basement, deep thinker. my 8 year old will be equiped to conquer life not be ashamed of it.

[Da Big Man]

To be outraged ... yes. That is just plain silly. It's a dude whacking off in the privacy of his home. Whether he does it with a sock or a picnic table or a sex toy, who cares?

 

To waste tax dollars on confining a man for private sex with an inanimate object is just folly.

 

Is the guy normal? Hell no. Is he crazy? Who knows. Is he dangerous? Unless you got something more than assumptions about his escalation, then NO.

 

Freaks are everywhere (just look at one particular poster in this thread), as long as they aren't hurting anyone, then who cares? I promise you, that if there was a confirmed link between patio furniture molestation, or if this guy had any other behavioral markers leading rational people to believe he was a threat to a child or another person, everyone on this board who's laughing would be as outraged as you.

 

I've done extensive research and work regarding profiles of serial killers, serial rapists and the like including behavioral markers and risk factors for people becoming such socio and psychopaths. It was my job for most of the past year. And I assure you, no where in the literature is there a case of a man who masturbated to or with an inanimate object ESCALATING his sexual desires to violent or harmful levels.

 

Now, there might be other markers that combine with said masturbatory techniques that some serial rapists or killers have demonstrated -- but it's a pattern of CONTINUED deviance, not ISOLATED cases. And, if the cops had found any of those markers, the press damn well would have ran with it (kiddie porn on his computer, inappropriate conversations on the internet, stalking tendencies, spousal abuse etc). But guess what? They didn't. Why? Cause the guy is just a loon who gets off by sticking his crank in a wooden hole.

 

So yes, it is ridiculous to start a topic demanding that this guy be locked up for LONGER than 6 months. Or to postulate that he is a threat to society simply because he chooses to do something other than the norm.

 

But you have the right to your opinion. I just see it as a waste of time when you should just laugh at it.

 

What is crazy though is to take this topic, like Da Big Man did, and turn it into a political rant about liberals versus conservatives, Mexicans, Gays and 9/11. Though, that too just amuses me because Da Big Man (should we do a Freudian analysis on overcompensation when he chose that screen name?) just wants a pulpit to preach from. And everything he says cracks me up.

 

Not because he's a narrow minded bigot. Or even a homophobic, sexually repressed (and probably inadequate in countless ways) idealogue. But mainly because he proves what's great about free speech in particular. Free speech, and people's willingness ot use it, makes it SO much easier to identify the true asssholes.

 

There's no better proof of that than Da Big Man's posts in this thread. So cheers to Da Big Man for renewing my faith in the first amendment.

thanks for reinforcing my belief that when left coasters make their small brains air tight they resort to uncalled for name calling and hate. the least you can do is make up a word for me instead of using bull$hitt titles when I speak the truth you chose to ignore. Question, how old are you?

[Da Big Man]

To be outraged ... yes. That is just plain silly. It's a dude whacking off in the privacy of his home. Whether he does it with a sock or a picnic table or a sex toy, who cares?

 

To waste tax dollars on confining a man for private sex with an inanimate object is just folly.

 

Is the guy normal? Hell no. Is he crazy? Who knows. Is he dangerous? Unless you got something more than assumptions about his escalation, then NO.

 

Freaks are everywhere (just look at one particular poster in this thread), as long as they aren't hurting anyone, then who cares? I promise you, that if there was a confirmed link between patio furniture molestation, or if this guy had any other behavioral markers leading rational people to believe he was a threat to a child or another person, everyone on this board who's laughing would be as outraged as you.

 

I've done extensive research and work regarding profiles of serial killers, serial rapists and the like including behavioral markers and risk factors for people becoming such socio and psychopaths. It was my job for most of the past year. And I assure you, no where in the literature is there a case of a man who masturbated to or with an inanimate object ESCALATING his sexual desires to violent or harmful levels.

 

Now, there might be other markers that combine with said masturbatory techniques that some serial rapists or killers have demonstrated -- but it's a pattern of CONTINUED deviance, not ISOLATED cases. And, if the cops had found any of those markers, the press damn well would have ran with it (kiddie porn on his computer, inappropriate conversations on the internet, stalking tendencies, spousal abuse etc). But guess what? They didn't. Why? Cause the guy is just a loon who gets off by sticking his crank in a wooden hole.

 

So yes, it is ridiculous to start a topic demanding that this guy be locked up for LONGER than 6 months. Or to postulate that he is a threat to society simply because he chooses to do something other than the norm.

 

But you have the right to your opinion. I just see it as a waste of time when you should just laugh at it.

 

What is crazy though is to take this topic, like Da Big Man did, and turn it into a political rant about liberals versus conservatives, Mexicans, Gays and 9/11. Though, that too just amuses me because Da Big Man (should we do a Freudian analysis on overcompensation when he chose that screen name?) just wants a pulpit to preach from. And everything he says cracks me up.

 

Not because he's a narrow minded bigot. Or even a homophobic, sexually repressed (and probably inadequate in countless ways) idealogue. But mainly because he proves what's great about free speech in particular. Free speech, and people's willingness ot use it, makes it SO much easier to identify the true asssholes.

 

There's no better proof of that than Da Big Man's posts in this thread. So cheers to Da Big Man for renewing my faith in the first amendment.

funny now you are an authority on the subject, today. where was this last night. my bull$hittometer is pegged. oh yeah he pled to disseminating materials to minors and the table wasn't made of wood . good attention to detail phd of human behavior.

[Ramius]

I have to work twice as hard as the local liberal elementary school is to teach my daughter that there is no first and no last just the middle . just mediocre. same sex marriages and free hand outs for poor disenfranchised folk is ok in your world not in mine. i can tell you are probably under 25 years old by the resorting to hate and names thats what blue people do when they are out of ideas. heres one invent a new word. its not your fault, you are a victim. did you cheer when micheal jackson got aquitted? bet you did. let me guess, a pot smoking , no job havin, livin in moms basement, deep thinker. my 8 year old will be equiped to conquer life not be ashamed of it.

 

 

Perhaps your "local liberal elementary school" can teach your daughter some better grammar than they obviously taught you.

[WellDressed]

and the table wasn't made of wood

 

Flash says it must've been the chicken then.