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[scribo]

So tell me, why is it that the phins mediocre LB and backup DT and rookies are going to make them a force to be reckoned with, btu these same positions are going to do nothing for the bills? Thats the negative attitude that you tend to bring with 99% of your posts.

 

As for the jets, 10-6 in 2006 was more of a fluke than 4-12 last season. I can go on about them as well. They lost Vilma. Why is calvin pace so great? He has had 1 good season out of 5 in arizona, and used it to cash in. He was widely considered a huge bust until his one good contract year. What makes him so great and Mitchell so bad? Oh thats right, mitchell was signed for the bills and pace was signed for another team. As for Damien Woody, he's bee relatively garbage since he went to detroit. He's started all of 13 games the past 2 seasons. He's a serious injury liability.

This kat is a troll, without a doubt. I would venture to say he is a stinkin fish fan, and those are fighting words in my family. He uses "we" an awfully lot when talking about the Bills, but it seems as if the Bills have done nothing to ever make him happy, unless you count giving him reasons to complain. But he is high on the stinkin' fish and even the jests.

[VOR]

What specifically did Mitchell do last year VOR?

 

I see that he sacked Edwards twice and Cleo Lemon once. Yes, very impressive. LOL Oh yeah, forgot one INT against the Bills (Edwards) which was thrown right to him. Great job. We should all applaud him.

 

So basically he had a heyday v. the Bills and has no verfiable stats other than tackles in any other game. And you think that's "playing exceptionally well?"

 

I'm sure you'll go off about his intangibles now and how the Giant D unit wouldn't have come together without him or something like that. Or that he ranked 4th on the team in tackles when at WLB he should have ranked 2nd behind Peirce, 3rd at worst given his position, yet he only managed to rank 4th. There were few if any games that he was the primary factor on D in as well. You overrate Mitchell.

LOL! Like you overrate Reggie Torbor? Tell me, what is it about Torbor that impresses you? The guy has started 2 more games in his 4-year career than Mitchell started last year alone, while last year Torbor did almost nothing. Yet you mention him as an upgrade for the Fins?

 

You might want to take a look at what Mitchell did in the playoffs as well. And I think we can agree that given his experience and size, he's at worst a significant upgrade over Ellison.

 

As to Jake Long, again, you missed the point entirely. You challenged me as to the notion that the Fins had not improved. I gave you the list. You then proceed to make my point and try to show how Miami hasn't improved although they've done more than we have. So my case has merely been reinforced.

Sorry but I never said the Fins didn't improve. I said that your claim that they improved more than the Bills was unfounded, which it is. What's funny is that you talk about needing proof that the Bills have improved, and then whip-out a rookie, 2 backup-quality players, and an OG who is coming off a shoulder injury as reasons why the Fins have improved more than the Bills. Yet you fail to mention their rookie head coach who was a former OL coach, all new coaches which means new terminology, a likely switch to the 3-4 without the personnel to do it, and possibly losing Jason Taylor. And they lost the leader of their defense over the off-season in Zach Thomas.

 

The Bills OTOH jettisoned an OC who wouldn't let the QB's audible and whose offensive schemes were so predictably bad that opposing DC's knew what they were going to run most of the time. They will also be getting Poz and Simpson back on defense, added Stroud, Johnson, and Mitchell to the defense, and drafted McKelvin and Hardy, while losing no one important.

 

As to Johnson, he was more impressive last year in college than Hardy was and that's all but fact. The only reason why he wasn't ranked much higher in the draft is because he posted only one solid season rather than the two good ones and one outstanding one numbers wise for Hardy. Could he be a flash in the pan? Absolutely. But the fact remains, he beat better DBs and Ds far more frequently as a Sr. in school than Hardy did. What that ends up being worth remains to be seen.

I have no qualms here. I hope Johnson wins the numbers game and becomes a stud for the Bills. But his college production means little to me, other than giving me reason for hope.

[VOR]

And if the Bills were in this shape, you would be talking about how the team won't make the playoffs but how 6 or 7 wins can be expected simply due to the improvements made there.

 

Jets: Thomas Jones predictably proved to be washed up and they had no depth or running game otherwise. I'd say that's relevant, wouldn't you? After all, if Lynch is the 5th highest rated RB, what's Jones? Where would that rank their running game next to ours in that way only?

Okay, Jones proved to be washed-up, despite rushing for 1,119 yards. Who did they get to replace him? And pre-emptively, assuming you provide a name, who's to say the new RB won't be a disappointment as well?

Kellen Clemens started half their games, and in spite of playing just like Edwards statistically, I'm sure that according to you he will have sucked.

I said that I wasn't overly enthused by the way Edwards finished the season, but it wasn't like he was playing in ideal conditions, and he was still a rookie, not a 2nd year player like Clemens. Will Clemens improve? Will Edwards? Hmmmm.

 

And you really think that either Coles or Cotchery is better than Evans? Otherwise Coles missed most of the second half of the season or was hampered in the few games he played.

Cotchery looks like a good WR who will only get better. Coles missed a lot of time due to injury. He may be on the downswing since he'll be entering his 9th season. But again, who did the Jets get to replace him? And the Bills had little opposite Evans last year, hence the reason they drafted Hardy (and Johnson).

 

Ever heard of Jonathon Vilma? IR

Ever heard that Vilma was traded to the Saints. not to mention he was a disappointment for the Jets in their 3-4 scheme? Again who replaces him?

 

Justin Miller? Nah, he sucks right? IR

Miller is strictly a KO return man. BFD. The Bills have had 2 of the top return men in the game the past few years and it didn't lead to significantly more wins.

 

So you're right, nothing to see here.

 

Their OL wasn't good. They did sign cruddy linemen like Damian Woody and Alan Faneca, so there's no reason to think that they may improve. Now if their uniforms had a Buffalo on them, then they would assuredly be positioned to do better than their 10-6 mark of two years ago. Otherwise they suck too no doubt in your book.

 

And of course Bubba Franks, Tony Richardson, Jesse Chatman, or Calvin Pace won't make any difference for them. Now if we had signed those guys you'd be talking Super Bowl no doubt. LOL

 

Good demonstration of knowledge and research however. Yeah.

LMAO @ Woody, Franks, and Chatman. They're all backups. Faneca and Richardson were good pickups, but they could also end-up like Jones, i.e. washed-up, and one has to wonder why their former teams were willing to part with them. And what's the difference between Pace, who had a decent year at (S)LB, not DE which was his previous position, and Mitchell?

 

What I've provided you in my last 2 posts are arguments that you've used to trash the Bills' off-season pickups. So don't make me LOL talking about how I/we are the ones who are biased.

[VOR]

AS someone who lives in Joisy and saw a lot of Giant games last year, I can tell you that Mitchell had an outstanding season, making plays and stopping the run. I was thrilled with his signing. He adds size and savvy.

He'll suck because krazykat thinks his regular season stats were unimpressive. And he was signed by the Bills.

[krazykat]

So tell me, why is it that the phins mediocre LB and backup DT and rookies are going to make them a force to be reckoned with, btu these same positions are going to do nothing for the bills? Thats the negative attitude that you tend to bring with 99% of your posts.

 

As for the jets, 10-6 in 2006 was more of a fluke than 4-12 last season. I can go on about them as well. They lost Vilma. Why is calvin pace so great? He has had 1 good season out of 5 in arizona, and used it to cash in. He was widely considered a huge bust until his one good contract year. What makes him so great and Mitchell so bad? Oh thats right, mitchell was signed for the bills and pace was signed for another team. As for Damien Woody, he's bee relatively garbage since he went to detroit. He's started all of 13 games the past 2 seasons. He's a serious injury liability.

Hardly. It's the attitude that you and others bring to posts about the Bills.

 

Once again, your extremely limited nitpicking my post reveals more of the same.

 

You ask questions like why is Calvin Pace so great but will naturally support the notion that Spencer Johnson is going to make some kind of relevant difference for us no doubt.

 

And then you have the audacity to make the statements you make above. No my friend, the one who's view is skewed away from the objective is yours. You just won't admit it because you fan status obscures reality in that way.

 

Once again, in your view the Bills are different than 31 other teams in this league regarding reality.

[krazykat]

Okay, Jones proved to be washed-up, despite rushing for 1,119 yards. Who did they get to replace him? And pre-emptively, assuming you provide a name, who's to say the new RB won't be a disappointment as well?

But that same question can't be applied to anything Bills, right? If it can, then why are so few people here admitting it? Same applies to rookies. You guys talk as if all rookie WRs for example end up being good or better.

 

I said that I wasn't overly enthused by the way Edwards finished the season, but it wasn't like he was playing in ideal conditions, and he was still a rookie, not a 2nd year player like Clemens. Will Clemens improve? Will Edwards? Hmmmm.

Others are and were enthused however. We're getting some real riiculous feedback here. How many QBs did play in ideal conditions? Did Pennington? Clemens? Lemon? I can think of one or two, Manning and Brady. Even Eli Manning didn't play under ideal conditions. Come on VOR, work with me here. And Edwards "being a rookie" is merely an excuse, it's not a reason as to why he will improve. That's a fact.

 

Cotchery looks like a good WR who will only get better. Coles missed a lot of time due to injury. He may be on the downswing since he'll be entering his 9th season. But again, who did the Jets get to replace him? And the Bills had little opposite Evans last year, hence the reason they drafted Hardy (and Johnson).

Coles is not as good as Evans. He's been tremendously inconsistent throughout his career. Cotchery has had two decent seasons in four but scored only 2 TDs last year in his best and has 8 total career TDs in four years. I view Evans, Reed, and Parrish as at least as good as what the Jets had, and Lynch is clearly a better RB than anyone that was healthy on either the Fins or Jets. What's funny, is that you and others arguing with me, seem to disapprove of my statements suggesting that we're better than the Fins and Jets when it's convenient for you and them, but when it's not, then I'm nuts, a troll, etc.

 

I mean honestly, how do you guys keep a straight face while posting?

 

Ever heard that Vilma was traded to the Saints. not to mention he was a disappointment for the Jets in their 3-4 scheme? Again who replaces him?

Again, entirely not the point. But staying on point doesn't even seem to make any difference here.

 

Miller is strictly a KO return man. BFD. The Bills have had 2 of the top return men in the game the past few years and it didn't lead to significantly more wins.

 

Well yeah, I can understand that being among the best as a return man is insignificant to you. And Moorman's just a punter and Parrish pretty much only has value as a return man too. BFD there too then? Somehow I'm guessing not.

 

And now what, all of a sudden the Bills STs play has been insignificant in Buffalo in recent seasons? That's not gonna go over well with your buddies here. You talked about how the Denver game was close? Did a return have anything to do with that VOR? How about the Dallas Game that our offense couldn't score in? Did a return have anything to do with our being in that game at all? Otherwise what you're saying is that the return game really doesn't matter. Sure.

 

LMAO @ Woody, Franks, and Chatman. They're all backups. Faneca and Richardson were good pickups, but they could also end-up like Jones, i.e. washed-up, and one has to wonder why their former teams were willing to part with them. And what's the difference between Pace, who had a decent year at (S)LB, not DE which was his previous position, and Mitchell?

Woody is a backup? I'm starting to see here why we are arguing much of this.

 

Faneca and Richardson were good pickups, but they could also end-up like Jones, i.e. washed-up, and one has to wonder why their former teams were willing to part with them.

 

Right, but Stroud and his injury/steroid issues are all 100% past him. Got it. And Mitchell can't possibly return to his play of the former four seasons when he wasn't surrounded by Pro Bowl caliber defensive talent. And Spencer Johnson hasn't been a backup. And both the Vikes and Giants tried arduously to keep both players

 

You're funny.

 

What I've provided you in my last 2 posts are arguments that you've used to trash the Bills' off-season pickups. So don't make me LOL talking about how I/we are the ones who are biased.

I'm not trashing anyone. I'm refuting the ridiculous assessments of some here that suggest that the chances of success of our rookies is drastically different than that for other teams all things being equal. In fact I've said some very positive things about some other of our players and the ones doing the "trashing" are you and others, not me. Again, I suppose that it depends entirely whether people say positive things about the players that you approve of.

 

You guys talk about the Bills as if the odds of rookies working out are five times what they are for other teams, or how backups on other teams here will shine as starters, or how players with issues see their issues vaporize the minute they sign their contracts with us. And you do it all while completely ignoring the completely opposite history of the Bills in this way with the cast of current people on the team and others that have recently been promoted but without a shred of evidence to suggest that they will be much different.

 

Feel free, but you cannot reasonably expect everyone to buy in. And oh yeah, then as a last resort when things fall apart for you argumentatively, you levy false charges, call people trolls, and ignore what positive they say about players and tell them that they only trash the team and its players. And let's not forget insisting that return games are all but meaningless. Tell Marv Levy that.

[WellDressed]

They're doing this to get people to watch.

 

They lost credibility a long time ago when they just started picking/covering the big-market teams.

 

Especially when you see the TEAM NAME scrolling on the bottom of your TV screen!!

 

I never knew that the PATRIOTS went up abainst the NHL, the MLB or Golf.

[VOR]

But that same question can't be applied to anything Bills, right? If it can, then why are so few people here admitting it? Same applies to rookies. You guys talk as if all rookie WRs for example end up being good or better.

You were the one claiming that the Fins and Jets improved more than the Bills, by effectively trashing every pickup made by the Bills. I returned the favor by trashing the pickups of those teams. Why should I accept that the Bills' pickups were meaningless and the Fins' and Jets' pickups weren't? Especially when you contradict yourself with examples like Torbor versus Mitchell, Starks versus Johnson, and Stroud versus Smiley?

 

Should we say that no team's pickups were any good? If so, which is the better team still?

 

Others are and were enthused however. We're getting some real riiculous feedback here. How many QBs did play in ideal conditions? Did Pennington? Clemens? Lemon? I can think of one or two, Manning and Brady. Even Eli Manning didn't play under ideal conditions. Come on VOR, work with me here. And Edwards "being a rookie" is merely an excuse, it's not a reason as to why he will improve. That's a fact.

QB is the most important position on a team. What makes you think that Clemens will improve? Beck? Seems like more than a few "experts" think Edwards has real potential, whereas no one is saying much about the other guys.

 

Coles is not as good as Evans. He's been tremendously inconsistent throughout his career. Cotchery has had two decent seasons in four but scored only 2 TDs last year in his best and has 8 total career TDs in four years. I view Evans, Reed, and Parrish as at least as good as what the Jets had, and Lynch is clearly a better RB than anyone that was healthy on either the Fins or Jets. What's funny, is that you and others arguing with me, seem to disapprove of my statements suggesting that we're better than the Fins and Jets when it's convenient for you and them, but when it's not, then I'm nuts, a troll, etc.

Forget comparing Evans to Coles or Cotchery. If given the choice, I'd take Cotchery and Coles over Evans and whoever wins the #2 spot (even Hardy, who as I said won't be counted on to be a #1 WR), until proven otherwise. Coles would likely have had 1,000 yards had he not gotten hurt. And if you think that Coles has been inconsistent, what does that make Evans?

 

Again, entirely not the point. But staying on point doesn't even seem to make any difference here.

You mentioned him as a reason why the Jets did poorly last year. Now he's gone, therefore his return can't help them this year. I could have mentioned how Clements' departure last year probably cost the Bills a shot at the playoffs. Take a guess why I didn't?

 

Well yeah, I can understand that being among the best as a return man is insignificant to you. And Moorman's just a punter and Parrish pretty much only has value as a return man too. BFD there too then? Somehow I'm guessing not.

 

And now what, all of a sudden the Bills STs play has been insignificant in Buffalo in recent seasons? That's not gonna go over well with your buddies here. You talked about how the Denver game was close? Did a return have anything to do with that VOR? How about the Dallas Game that our offense couldn't score in? Did a return have anything to do with our being in that game at all? Otherwise what you're saying is that the return game really doesn't matter. Sure.

You just mentioned 2 games in which the ST's did some good things, but the Bills still lost. How many games do you figure Miller's absence cost the Jets? Or to put it another way, how many games did he win for the Jets in 2006?

 

Woody is a backup? I'm starting to see here why we are arguing much of this.

Woody wasn't even a fulltime starter for the Lions last year, getting demoted from RG and then playing RT after their starter got injured. He's a backup at best.

 

Faneca and Richardson were good pickups, but they could also end-up like Jones, i.e. washed-up, and one has to wonder why their former teams were willing to part with them.

 

Right, but Stroud and his injury/steroid issues are all 100% past him. Got it. And Mitchell can't possibly return to his play of the former four seasons when he wasn't surrounded by Pro Bowl caliber defensive talent. And Spencer Johnson hasn't been a backup. And both the Vikes and Giants tried arduously to keep both players

The "washed-up" and "why did they get rid of him" was for your benefit, considering you've used those to denounce the Stroud trade. As I alluded to in the first paragraph, I can poke holes in any FA pickup made by other teams, just like you can with the Bills.

 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

[krazykat]

You were the one claiming that the Fins and Jets improved more than the Bills, by effectively trashing every pickup made by the Bills. I returned the favor by trashing the pickups of those teams. Why should I accept that the Bills' pickups were meaningless and the Fins' and Jets' pickups weren't? Especially when you contradict yourself with examples like Torbor versus Mitchell, Starks versus Johnson, and Stroud versus Smiley?

 

I wasn't making direct comparisons generally speaking and it's cheap for you to suggest that I was and dishonest in this discussion otherwise. Overall the Dolphins have done more to improve than we have. They also have Ricky Williams back who I don't expect to have a 1,000 rushing season, but since he's pretty much owned us I certainly think that we will have to remind ourselves that he's on their team this year to boot. Otherwise my comments, and if you were honest you would admit this, I'm looking a the overall picture. You're clearly not here.

 

Should we say that no team's pickups were any good? If so, which is the better team still?

 

Again, you miss my point entirely.

 

QB is the most important position on a team. What makes you think that Clemens will improve? Beck? Seems like more than a few "experts" think Edwards has real potential, whereas no one is saying much about the other guys.

 

Once again, "thinking, saying, and seeming." Very nice. What makes me think Clemens and Beck will improve? Of the three I'd say that Beck has the best shot at making a notable improvement this season. I would think that you'd be in full agreement given how important the "experts" opinions were/are and how he was a higher ranked QB than Edwards was and drafted 52 picks, nearly two full rounds, ahead of Edwards. Otherwise you have got to be kidding me! Beck in college was in a different class than Edwards. I'm not insisting that Clemens will improve, and if Pennington starts, he may not even play. But again, you miss my point entirely otherwise.

 

Forget comparing Evans to Coles or Cotchery. If given the choice, I'd take Cotchery and Coles over Evans and whoever wins the #2 spot (even Hardy, who as I said won't be counted on to be a #1 WR), until proven otherwise. Coles would likely have had 1,000 yards had he not gotten hurt. And if you think that Coles has been inconsistent, what does that make Evans?

 

It makes him a WR that put up 8 TDs/season pretty darned consistently. Coles has averaged barely over 4 TDs/season pretty much being the prime receiver on his teams while Evans was often 2nd in two of three seasons prior to last year. Cotchery? You joke. He had 2 TDs last year and 6 the year prior, and frankly, on a team better than Evans has played on. So Evans has pretty much outperformed both combined in terms of TD production. Oh, but I forgot, when discussing the Bills were not actually talking about scoring, we're talking about media print and hype, season ticket sales, and why all the coaches and front office staff that haven't proven anything will eventually work their way into the Hall of Fame. My bad! Otherwise, I would take Evans, Reed, and Parrish in a NY second over those two. And why do you discount the play of the QB entirely in this analysis? What, A QBs play can suffer because of WRs but the WRs play can't suffer because their QB sucks? Senseless. Once again, Edwards is an enormous part of the problem here, and for how much you bash Evans, I will bash Edwards equally so in terms of which one is better, they're not even close.

 

Why the trashing of Evans all of a sudden?

 

 

You mentioned him as a reason why the Jets did poorly last year. Now he's gone, therefore his return can't help them this year. I could have mentioned how Clements' departure last year probably cost the Bills a shot at the playoffs. Take a guess why I didn't?

 

Makes no difference why you didn't. It is immaterial. He wasn't injured which was the crux of your post initiating this. You stray off your own developed points incredibly. Once again you stray from the point on cue. Vilma was injured. You started off on how a group of depth players cost us the playoffs last year when we didn't have one impact player on IR all year. Vilma while maybe not Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher, was certainly a pivotal cog in the wheel of the Jets' D.

 

 

You just mentioned 2 games in which the ST's did some good things, but the Bills still lost. How many games do you figure Miller's absence cost the Jets? Or to put it another way, how many games did he win for the Jets in 2006?

 

I have no idea, go look. You have no idea what the lack of a great return guy means apparently. Yet, if the tables were turned and we had Parrish and/or McGee on IR, you'd be crying up a world class monsoon over how that had an enormous impact given your track record here.

 

Woody wasn't even a fulltime starter for the Lions last year, getting demoted from RG and then playing RT after their starter got injured. He's a backup at best.

 

Once again proving your NFL knowledge here. Can you think of any reason why Woody may not have started and/or performed well last year? Otherwise, expect him to rebound, at least slightly this year. But you know what I find interesting, is that you say that about Woody but then regarding Stroud you don't seem to expect any issues or assume any risk whatsoever. Once again, you are being incredibly inconsistent here in your logic. Woody is not a backup at best, on the Jets he will start and given the rest of their line and his second year back after serious injury, it is foolish and baseless to suggest that even at 31 he is a "backup at best."

 

The "washed-up" and "why did they get rid of him" was for your benefit, considering you've used those to denounce the Stroud trade. As I alluded to in the first paragraph, I can poke holes in any FA pickup made by other teams, just like you can with the Bills.

 

I haven't said that Stroud is washed up. You said or implied that I did which is inaccurate. In fact I haven't even implied it. I've also said that he may very well play like the monster Stroud that I've always considered a Pro Bowl talent and one of the few best at his position. But where I am honest is suggesting that might happen, you all but completely deny that any risks with that signing even exist, which again is ridiculous and foolish and dishonest.

 

As to "picking holes," you pick holes in other teams and poo their picks but with the Bills assume that everything will work out just peachy keen. Feel free, but you have been extremely inconsistent, even from post to post, but more importantly in the logic that you yourself initiate.

 

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

 

Obviously. But here's the difference, when many of the guys that you expect to step up for your reasons don't, you will continue to make excuses for them and are likely to ignore the reasons why they didn't as being that our front office really isn't very good and/or that the players that fail fail because they aren't very good and were overrated and/or poorly coached. I on the other hand see that our coaching isn't very good at best, is entirely unknown to be accurate regarding Schonert, that our personnel office has absolutely no long-term or even medium term track record of any significant success, and that the same odds that apply to other teams' rookies and free agents working out, generally apply to us as well all other things being equal. In other words, just because you and I are Bills fans and the team that we are talking about is the Bills, does not mean that the odds of negative occurences happening are any less, again, all other things being equal, which if anything we've merely proven that we're easily in the lower half of the league in that way over the last 8 seasons.

[VOR]

The difference is that you think the Bills' moves will mostly fail while the Fins' and Jets' moves will mostly work. I say you're wrong. Not to mention the Fins will have a new coaching staff and rookie head coach while Mangini isn't the genius people thought.

 

So we'll just have to agree to disagree. And when the Bills sweep those teams again, I'm sure you'll have some excuses for them.

[krazykat]

The difference is that you think the Bills' moves will mostly fail while the Fins' and Jets' moves will mostly work. I say you're wrong. Not to mention the Fins will have a new coaching staff and rookie head coach while Mangini isn't the genius people thought.

 

So we'll just have to agree to disagree. And when the Bills sweep those teams again, I'm sure you'll have some excuses for them.

Not at all true. I think that the Bills moves are more likely to not work out for one reason and one reason only after my own analyses and assessments, and that reason is that this team, it's management, it's coaching has failed far more often than it has succeeded in "their moves" since they've been here. But in your mind all of a sudden this cast of losers finally got it right. Well, OK, but please allow me to default to the standard here and not gross unfounded exceptions that haven't even occurred yet.

 

And what with those that talked about how great Viti would be? They're already 180 degrees wrong on one count and training camp hasn't even begun. Yet they will continue to expect everyone to believe them that the rest of their hopes are well grounded. Sure.

 

Otherwise I don't think that the Jets and Fins' moves are any less likely to work out than ours while you and everyone else automatically assume that they're gonna suck again. What do you think their fans thinK? I'm guessing here the opposite of you. But hey, that's what happens when your bias guides your thinking. You end up with opinions lacking objectivity.

 

If the Bills sweep those teams again I'll buy you an ice cream! LOL

 

And suppose they do! Suppose the Fins and Jets suck again and we sweep them and four other sh-- teams, barely in most cases like last year, and not on solid fundamental football, and go 8-8? Would that mean that we're good in your mind, or better necessarily?

[krazykat]

He'll suck because krazykat thinks his regular season stats were unimpressive. And he was signed by the Bills.

LOL

 

Does anyone here besides a select few even comprehend written English?

[VOR]

Not at all true. I think that the Bills moves are more likely to not work out for one reason and one reason only after my own analyses and assessments, and that reason is that this team, it's management, it's coaching has failed far more often than it has succeeded in "their moves" since they've been here. But in your mind all of a sudden this cast of losers finally got it right. Well, OK, but please allow me to default to the standard here and not gross unfounded exceptions that haven't even occurred yet.

Ah, I see. Since the last 2 years were spent rebuilding the team, and last year the team suffered a load of injuries, the Bills are destined to fail again? That's some sound reasoning. But hey, pessimism is a wonderful defense mechanism. That way you can never be disappointed, right?

 

But what about the Fins? Their coaching staff is entirely new and their coach is a rookie head coach who was last a head coach at University of New Haven, and was most recently coaching O-lines? You DO realize that Parcells won't be coaching the team, right? And Torbor, Starks, Smiley, heck even throw in Wilford and Ricky Williams? Are you for real?

 

And did that first season under Mangini impress you? Apparently it did. Well last year did as much to unimpress me, as well as almost everyone else. I'd call 2006 not even as good as Jauron's COTY season in 2001. By your own admission, the trade for Thomas Jones was a bust and they don't have good WR's. Their QB situation is no better than the Bills'. They're playing a 3-4, to which they're ill-suited personnel-wise, and their big-name additions to it have only played in a 4-3 (Jenkins, Pace), while losing the all-important Jonathan Vilma. But at least on ST's, they'll get Justin Miller back, and that should be good for the 6 win discrepancy between 2006 and 2007.

 

And what with those that talked about how great Viti would be? They're already 180 degrees wrong on one count and training camp hasn't even begun. Yet they will continue to expect everyone to believe them that the rest of their hopes are well grounded. Sure.

Did I talk about Viti? No. He was a rookie UDFA from Army (wow!). The most I talked about him was that hopefully he'd make the PS, so he wouldn't have to fulfill his military commitment and have to fight in the latter-day Vietnam. And as I said in the other thread, I believe the Bills will use a FB mostly on short-yardage/goal-line situations, for both the run AND pass. Not every down.

 

Otherwise I don't think that the Jets and Fins' moves are any less likely to work out than ours while you and everyone else automatically assume that they're gonna suck again. What do you think their fans thinK? I'm guessing here the opposite of you. But hey, that's what happens when your bias guides your thinking. You end up with opinions lacking objectivity.

I look at teams in their entirety. And I'm not perfect and neither are you. But no one is, not even the so-called "experts." I see nothing objectively that says the Fins and Jets improved more than the Bills did. Not that you're one to talk of objectivity.

 

If the Bills sweep those teams again I'll buy you an ice cream! LOL

 

And suppose they do! Suppose the Fins and Jets suck again and we sweep them and four other sh-- teams, barely in most cases like last year, and not on solid fundamental football, and go 8-8? Would that mean that we're good in your mind, or better necessarily?

If the Bills sweep those teams again, yet it will be obvious that they're a better team than them. What else do you fancy it will mean? You realize that I responded to you WRT "the Fins have improved more than the Bills," right?

 

And what if the Bills make the playoffs? Will you (expectedly) be "pleasantly surprised?" Admit you were wrong? Or say "they got lucky?"

[VOR]

LOL

 

Does anyone here besides a select few even comprehend written English?

 

Yes. And I realize hypocrisy when I see it.