Bill from NYC Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 You darlings now have the right to vote! Crist was a big McCain supporter. I wonder how many of these criminals he expects to vote republican? Tough to comprehend, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 You darlings now have the right to vote! Crist was a big McCain supporter. I wonder how many of these criminals he expects to vote republican? Tough to comprehend, no? Virginia is going through that right now. Right now, a felon who stays out of trouble can apply to get his voting rights back, but it takes time. The democratic governer is pushing through legislation to set up an expedited review program to ensure that they can all get them restored in time for the November election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Why don't these governors set up an expedited process so that we can start clearing the backlog on death rows all over the country and frying those bastards. Just another bid to get dem voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Why don't these governors set up an expedited process so that we can start clearing the backlog on death rows all over the country and frying those bastards.Just another bid to get dem voters. One would think so, but Crist is a repub., and a big time McCain supporter. That is the part I don't understand at all. I don't think these guys do things like this by accident, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 One would think so, but Crist is a repub., and a big time McCain supporter. That is the part I don't understand at all. I don't think these guys do things like this by accident, do they? The article doesn't mention Florida's problems with their previous system of restoring rights to Felons. It was costly and backlogged to the point where it tooks years for each case to be resolved. By switching it to an automatic system, Crist is saving a bunch of time and money for the government. In this respect, it was a pretty attractive thing to do. Politically, Crist actively sought black voters during his campaign run. Jim Davis, his opponent, had supported restoring felon's rights automatically. In order to balance him out on an issue that would largely not hurt him all that much, he too decided to be in favor of restoring felon's ability to vote. He's now acting on a campaign promise so that it can't be used against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 The article doesn't mention Florida's problems with their previous system of restoring rights to Felons. It was costly and backlogged to the point where it tooks years for each case to be resolved. By switching it to an automatic system, Crist is saving a bunch of time and money for the government. In this respect, it was a pretty attractive thing to do. Politically, Crist actively sought black voters during his campaign run. Jim Davis, his opponent, had supported restoring felon's rights automatically. In order to balance him out on an issue that would largely not hurt him all that much, he too decided to be in favor of restoring felon's ability to vote. He's now acting on a campaign promise so that it can't be used against him. Thanks for this. I am not a McCain supporter, but it would seem to me that this can hurt him in Florida, if only just a bit. Florida was the state that drove Rudy from the race and Crist played a big part in this. There is talk of him running for VP, right? The repubs are in bad shape, or so it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Thanks for this. I am not a McCain supporter, but it would seem to me that this can hurt him in Florida, if only just a bit. Florida was the state that drave Rudy from the race and Crist played a big part in this. There is talk of him running for VP, right? Yep, there is talk of Crist being the VP. Felons typically show up at about a 50% turnout rate of the regular turnout rate. The article metnions that 114,000 felons rights have been restored, so if we look at a 65.90% turnout rate for Florida (the 2004 election level), it would be about 32.95% of all felons that would turn out. The increase was 114,000 according to the article, so the actual number of votes would increase at 37,563. In 2000, this would have have made the difference in the election in the state, but in 2004, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1976, 1972, etc., that number wouldn't have tipped the scales. Its very, very rare to get an election in Florida within 37k votes. There's no question that it has the potential to hurt McCain, especially if they break at even higher numbers due to more felons being African American and voting for the African American president. In 1992, the other close election in Florda in recent history, Bush won the state by 100,612 votes. If the felons had a 100% turnout rate, and all voted Democrat, the election would have been tipped in Clinton's favor. Of course, thats not realistic, which shows just how insignificant this voting population actually is on the outcome of the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Thanks for this. I am not a McCain supporter, but it would seem to me that this can hurt him in Florida, if only just a bit. Florida was the state that drove Rudy from the race and Crist played a big part in this. There is talk of him running for VP, right? The repubs are in bad shape, or so it would seem. Are you actually trying to have a discussion on this matter (if so, you would typically include your well thought out reasons about why you are against this), or are you simply going after Crist because he played a role in your boy guilani dropping out of the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 19, 2008 Author Share Posted June 19, 2008 Are you actually trying to have a discussion on this matter (if so, you would typically include your well thought out reasons about why you are against this), or are you simply going after Crist because he played a role in your boy guilani dropping out of the election. Neither. I don't understand why he would push a candidate (McCain), and then bring in people to vote against him. He was quoted as saying that "everyone" deserves a second chance. The whole scenario doesn't add up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Neither. I don't understand why he would push a candidate (McCain), and then bring in people to vote against him. Got the timeline here wrong - this change was passed in April, 2007; he didn't endorse McCain until January 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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