VABills Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Well, let's see Afghanistan had more combat deaths than Iraq. May was what around 19 or so. June was 28. The other day had 40 dead and I believe around 150 injured in another suicide bombing. For while you never really heard of anything coming out of Afghanistan except the positive. So yeah, it seems like things are slipping just a bit to me. Media I guess lies about the number of people dying right. Can't eat that information up. No really what are the numbers? One month doesn't make a problem. But several months in a row points to a problem. Seriously what are the numbers? If Iraq is going down but Afghanistan is holding average then, no it's not slipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 No really what are the numbers? One month doesn't make a problem. But several months in a row points to a problem. Seriously what are the numbers? If Iraq is going down but Afghanistan is holding average then, no it's not slipping. Go to the AP they list all of the numbers for you. The UN figures show that 698 civilians died as a result of violence in the first half of the year, compared with 430 in the first six months of 2007 – a rise of 62%. Militant fighters caused 422, or 60%, of the recorded civilian casualties, while government or foreign troops killed 255 people, the UN said. The causes of 21 other deaths were unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 No really what are the numbers? One month doesn't make a problem. But several months in a row points to a problem. Seriously what are the numbers? If Iraq is going down but Afghanistan is holding average then, no it's not slipping. Since things are going better in Iraq, the Libs are now switching their focus to Afghanistan. WE'VE LOST THE WAR!! BRING OUR TROOPS HOME FROM AFGHANISTAN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Since things are going better in Iraq, the Libs are now switching their focus to Afghanistan. WE'VE LOST THE WAR!! BRING OUR TROOPS HOME FROM AFGHANISTAN!! First off they should bring them home in both countries. And the republicans now are telling the Iraqi leaders, nope we don't like your ideas on a time table for us leaving your country. That screws us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Just curious what states that things are going so great or better in Iraq? For every source on one side there's another saying the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hey Molson, is that you? If not you are his identical twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hey Molson, is that you?If not you are his identical twin. Yes, anyone that thinks differently than the herd here is Molson or his twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hey Molson, is that you?If not you are his identical twin. It's his little brother. He hasn't quite graduated to Molten's level of lunacy...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 It's his little brother. He hasn't quite graduated to Molten's level of lunacy...yet. Wow that was brilliant. Wheew, I am amazed. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Wow that was brilliant. Wheew, I am amazed. :lol: :lol: Be afraid, be very afraid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Be afraid, be very afraid! I am. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I am. As well you should be. Your idiometer is pegged at 10 right about now. How's the nightly barrage of negative news from Iraq been lately? Seems to me that violence in that sh!thole is way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 As well you should be. Your idiometer is pegged at 10 right about now. How's the nightly barrage of negative news from Iraq been lately? Seems to me that violence in that sh!thole is way down. Wow, pot calling the kettle black. "idiometer" that's just dumb. Violence in Iraq us going down... great listen the leaders that want the US to set a timetable and bring our troops home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Wow, pot calling the kettle black. "idiometer" that's just dumb. Violence in Iraq us going down... great listen the leaders that want the US to set a timetable and bring our troops home. Those are just the leaders pandering to the masses for votes. And the masses do not have clue one as to what's really going on over there. That includes you and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Those are just the leaders pandering to the masses for votes. And the masses do not have clue one as to what's really going on over there. That includes you and me. So the leaders in Iraq want to take over their own security, etc. And we should tell them no? I don't agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 So the leaders in Iraq want to take over their own security, etc. And we should tell them no? I don't agree with that. I can think of no greater endorsement for Obama's strategic thinking than that he and Maliki are on the same page on how to stabilize Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I can think of no greater endorsement for Obama's strategic thinking than that he and Maliki are on the same page on how to stabilize Iraq. Well according to most people here... Iraq is well on the way to be stabilized. So why not let Iraq take control, give the time line they want. I also believe this has to do more with the Bush administration telling them flat out no. Actions like that will only make more people in Iraq resent the U.S. We would then be that one person who doesn't know when to leave/go home after a get together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 So the leaders in Iraq want to take over their own security, etc. And we should tell them no? I don't agree with that. Are they ready and capable to take over their own security? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Of course it matters if they can control the security. However the government that we basically set up, we also have to respect their decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Wow, pot calling the kettle black. "idiometer" that's just dumb. Violence in Iraq us going down... great listen the leaders that want the US to set a timetable and bring our troops home. Why? What makes you think that the "leaders" in question haven't made arrangements with the "leaders" in this country? You don't know. You can't possibly know. And therefore your opinion means exactly jack shait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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