LewPort71 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 There is no offside on a throw in... (on a ball directly received from the thrower) I had the same situation in a match I reffed this AM... No offside on goal kicks or corner kick either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 There is no offside on a throw in... (on a ball directly received from the thrower) I had the same situation in a match I reffed this AM... No offside on goal kicks or corner kick either Alright. I can't wait for the game tomorrow. Torres worries me a lot. David VIlla not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 man the Dutch were flat all game. got outplayed since the opening whistle... you know Boularouze's daughter died this week, right? No, I didn't know that....that's awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Alright. I can't wait for the game tomorrow. Torres worries me a lot. David VIlla not so much. Really? I can't say I've been all that impressed with Villa's overall game, but the little dude seems to have a ridiculous knack for getting himself into the right place at the right time. Torres is clearly the better player, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Villa continue his very productive run. BTW, where is Totti? He injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy Pyle Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 As much as I love the Dutch, I wouldn't count out the winner of France or Italy (assuming Romania lose). Both teams have notoriously slow starts in tournaments. Romania is no push over either, finishing top in their qualifying group. The Dutch will rest players, but there isn't alot to choose between some of their starting players and the subs. Robben? Van Persie? Hietigna? The Dutch are a bit of tragic side....so I'm just waiting for the other shoe to fall. But my favourite European based team, which always costs me heartache. ...and the other shoe fell today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Really? I can't say I've been all that impressed with Villa's overall game, but the little dude seems to have a ridiculous knack for getting himself into the right place at the right time. Torres is clearly the better player, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Villa continue his very productive run. BTW, where is Totti? He injured? Torres worries me because he plays for Liverpool. Winning mentality there. Totti has taken his retirement from International Football, but anyways he had season ending surgery in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Torres worries me because he plays for Liverpool. Winning mentality there. Totti has taken his retirement from International Football, but anyways he had season ending surgery in May. That's disappointing...you did such a good job telling me about the guy that I usually look forward to seeing him play. I was hoping he'd be around for this tourney. He's back with Roma after recovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 That's disappointing...you did such a good job telling me about the guy that I usually look forward to seeing him play. I was hoping he'd be around for this tourney. He's back with Roma after recovery? Yes. He's Roman for life. Actually the entire midfield should be Roman. De Rossi Aquilani and Perrotta. Watch out for Cassano, clearly one of the most talented forwards in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 As a supporter of the Dutch, I have to say that the Russians deserved to win. They played inspired and the Dutch were flat. The Russians are going to continue to be dangerous. They have some very good young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 As a supporter of the Dutch, I have to say that the Russians deserved to win. They played inspired and the Dutch were flat. The Russians are going to continue to be dangerous. They have some very good young talent. Yes and no. For sure they have some players who will surely get recruited by some clubs this summer. I think the motivating factor is their coach though. Gus Hiddink has brought out 300% from all his players. Korea in 2002 (although the refereeing scandal ruined it). Australia 2006 and now Russia 2008. He will probably be gone after the summer and I don't know if another coach could get them to play at that level again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy Pyle Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Watch out for Cassano, clearly one of the most talented forwards in Europe. ...that's a stretch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 0-0 Spain-Italy in the 60th minute...Italy halfway home to their typical tournament goal of sucking the life out of the game and then reaching PK's... "I want all 11 of you behind the ball on defense, and if we actually get into their penalty area, GET DOWN AND GRAB YOUR LEG!" -Every Italy coach since 1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy Pyle Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Well...it's going into extra time....Italians and their negative football....all neutral's should be cheering for Spain, at least they are trying to play positively. As a football purist, the Italians game has been fairly brutal. But all the better teams are falling out...so expect Spain to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Well...it's going into extra time....Italians and their negative football....all neutral's should be cheering for Spain, at least they are trying to play positively. As a football purist, the Italians game has been fairly brutal. But all the better teams are falling out...so expect Spain to lose. It's so freaking comical that people actually commend them for this type of play too...The nature of the sport of soccer already lends itself to 1-0 games, and yet Italy receives praise for the "tactics" required to sit back on defense, clog up the final third of the field, and hope to win on a dive in the box or PK's. Pirlo (suspended today) is a great player with serious class, and I realize Italy misses what he brings from the midfield and on set pieces. Still, Italy getting outplayed yet again in a major tournament and yet advancing by sitting back on defense and diving on offense is a death knell for fans of the sport who appreciate ambitious soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thankfully! Spain is rewarded for actually playing to win, they advance on PK's... Casillas was a beast in goal during the shootout, saved two, and the two that went in were perfect shots that he was nearly all over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy Pyle Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Yes, Agreed on all accounts. Italy missed Pirlo, but one has to feel that Spain were justly rewarded for their efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Now we know which three teams will get a massive dose of the FLYING POLOCK! My boy Klose is gonna put on a clinic on the way to winning the thing for the Germans Hopefully Frings is healthy, cause then we'll have our long range bomber in play, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 It's so freaking comical that people actually commend them for this type of play too...The nature of the sport of soccer already lends itself to 1-0 games, and yet Italy receives praise for the "tactics" required to sit back on defense, clog up the final third of the field, and hope to win on a dive in the box or PK's. Pirlo (suspended today) is a great player with serious class, and I realize Italy misses what he brings from the midfield and on set pieces. Still, Italy getting outplayed yet again in a major tournament and yet advancing by sitting back on defense and diving on offense is a death knell for fans of the sport who appreciate ambitious soccer. That was crap. Donadoni referred to the tactics of previous Italian coaches and deserved to go out. Yes Pirlo was missed but I don't think we can't win without him. We didn't play like this in 2006 and it's the reason we won. Congrats to the Spaniards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 0-0 Spain-Italy in the 60th minute...Italy halfway home to their typical tournament goal of sucking the life out of the game and then reaching PK's... "I want all 11 of you behind the ball on defense, and if we actually get into their penalty area, GET DOWN AND GRAB YOUR LEG!" -Every Italy coach since 1982 Actually the catenaccio started from Ariggo Sacchi's era of 1994 to 2004. The difference is, Italians did not have any good players for that era that could score outside of Baggio. This time it was just crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 That was crap. Donadoni referred to the tactics of previous Italian coaches and deserved to go out. Yes Pirlo was missed but I don't think we can't win without him. We didn't play like this in 2006 and it's the reason we won. Congrats to the Spaniards. I think they could've won too...They have talented players, but their (usual) approach to the game I don't agree with. The majority of the time I've seen him, Toni disappears for long stretches of the game. It's like he's in there solely for his height, and Italy will defend until they can maybe get a free kick, and hope to find Toni's head. Del Piero was subbed in for PK's, and then didn't even shoot (likely he was #5?) With the lack of action up top, I would've probably brought him in sooner...Why not? Pirlo is a smooth player, I like his game a lot and enjoy watching him... Is there a new rule about stopping play when a player is down? The ref stopped play twice today when Spain had the ball because Italian players were down. I was under the impression that unless it appeared to be a head injury, play on...Usually the opponent will play the ball out of bounds if they feel the injured player is legitimately hurt and needs a trainer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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