berndogg Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I understand he is a really fast counter. Thats part of the reason that they took him, he aced the counting section of his wonderlic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Excellent. Particularly since the Bucs have had such good drafts lately...Micheal Clayton...Cadillaic minus his first 6 games in the NFL...Davin Joseph....Bruce Gradkowski...Jeremy Trueblood....Alex Smith... Wow. You dont obviously follow the buccs at all, nor do you have any idea about their players. Sure, Clayton could be considered a bust. ITs touch to call cadillac a bust, because he got hurt. But thats where your post stops making any and all sense. Joseph and Trueblood are anchors on their OL, and 2 big reason as to why the buccs won the division last year. Those 2 are quickly becoming elite linemen. Alex Smith has developed into a pretty nice TE for them, considering he was a 3rd rounder. Gradkowski was a friggin 5th round QB who was forced into a starting role as a rookie. What do you expect from him? Your post can be summed up in one sentence: Its better to have people THINK you're an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Joseph and Trueblood are anchors on their OL, and 2 big reason as to why the buccs won the division last year. Those 2 are quickly becoming elite linemen. Alex Smith has developed into a pretty nice TE for them, considering he was a 3rd rounder. Gradkowski was a friggin 5th round QB who was forced into a starting role as a rookie. What do you expect from him? Ahem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Ahem. As much as we argue about the Whitner pick, i've never denied that those 2 picks were great picks by the buccs. Toss in 2nd rounder aaron sears, FA jeff faine, and that OL has the makings of a good one. The only piece they are really lacking is a true LT. They have petitgout there for now, but are going to need someone else there soon. I havent heard if there are any plans to shift Trueblood over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Ahem. Don't they also have a first-round draft pick as one of their starting corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Don't they also have a first-round draft pick as one of their starting corners? In the past 2 drafts, the Buccs have spent a 1st, 3rd, and 4th on the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 In the past 2 drafts, the Buccs have spent a 1st, 3rd, and 4th on the secondary. We did that in 06 alone, and gave away a 3rd to accomplish this lofty goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I havent heard if there are any plans to shift Trueblood over. I think that Trueblood is more of a mauling RT than a LT prospect. Still, wait and see how much he gets when his contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 We did that in 06 alone, and gave away a 3rd to accomplish this lofty goal. IIRC, we gave up a 3rd to select a DT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 IIRC, we gave up a 3rd to select a DT... That is correct. But, even though you don't believe me, I heard Marv Levy say that we turned down more than a 2nd to trade down in round 1. This means that we could have drafted Joseph, Trueblood, McCargo, and had another 2nd (and another unspecified pick). Whitner is good, but I am not at all impressed by Youboty or Simpson. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 That is correct. But, even though you don't believe me, I heard Marv Levy say that we turned down more than a 2nd to trade down in round 1. This means that we could have drafted Joseph, Trueblood, McCargo, and had another 2nd (and another unspecified pick). Whitner is good, but I am not at all impressed by Youboty or Simpson. How about you? I'm impressed with Whitner thusfar. I'm not impressed with Youboty at all. As for Simpson, i liked what i saw from him his rookie year, and last year was obviously a washout. We'll see what he brings this year. For being a 4th round pick, i'm happy where he is at and his potential to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I'm impressed with Whitner thusfar. I'm not impressed with Youboty at all. As for Simpson, i liked what i saw from him his rookie year, and last year was obviously a washout. We'll see what he brings this year. For being a 4th round pick, i'm happy where he is at and his potential to improve. You see, when I watched Simpson, it looked (to me of course) like he was running in sand. Granted, he is young and might improve, but I am far from optimistic. I probably want him to be good more than anybody on this board for an obvious reason....if he doesn't pan out, Jauron (assuming he is still employed in Buffalo) will draft a first round safety in 09. That is if he can resist another first round corner. Yes, right or wrong, I believe Jauron is that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 It's good that the Bills added a pass rusher in the draft. They struggled mightely to get to the QB last season. I expect that Ellis will help out with 3rd & long situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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