Rubes Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 According to NFL Network Was this posted already? Couldn't find it anywhere. A pretty good video, although I had to turn off the part where they show the...well, you'll know.
BillsGuyInMalta Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Great video...but man, once I heard "Music City Miracle" I turned it off too. Still painful.
Cugalabanza Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 I lost a little piece of my soul in front of the tv that day.
Flbillsfan#1 Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Great video...but man, once I heard "Music City Miracle" I turned it off too. Still painful. NFL Network is going to replay that game next week I think.
gggal Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Hahaha that was pretty harsh!!!! I think whoever put that together was a Flutie fan. Wow. Hysterical though.
Billadelphia Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 "He looked like a QB, but once you met him and talked to him, you realize that you wouldn't buy carpet from the guy." That about sums it up as well as the comment from RJ about how "you gotta look out for yourself first."
WellDressed Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 NFL Network is going to replay that game next week I think. It is sitting on my direct hard drive right now, unable to be opened; by my choosing. This was a cruel birthday gift from an unknown source delivered to me on my 30th. Possibly the subliminally induced ghost rider of Marshawns car
stuckincincy Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 RJ = Biggest mistake Ralph ever made. Debatable...and Ralph's staff were involved, too. Like any trade. RJ looked like the quarterback equivalent of a thoroughbred race horse at the time. I was long gone from WNY when he was traded for - so I defer to others. But I never got the impression that he was a slacker, a complainer or whiner. I do recall hearing some chat about Flutie not exactly adding positive, helpful things to the situation.
Chandler#81 Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Sadly for Bills fans, his sole 'One hit' wasn't even as a Bill...
RayFinkle Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 RJ = Biggest mistake Ralph ever made. RJ had less starts and better stats than JP as a Buffalo Bill. I guess RJ just didn't get a fair shake......
bdelma Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 RJ = Biggest mistake Ralph ever made. Maybe as a player, but I would say losing Bill Polian
gggal Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 I think the one quote they used was kind of harsh....RJ may have been a bad QB and kind of a weird personality and not the best leader, but I don't think he ever put himself before the team...he was a coach's son and just kind of laid low and played video games and ate egg whites. But I don't think he was selfish. Such funny quotes though, it was so trash RJ it was comical... "Rob Johnson is the classic guy who people fall in love with what he looks like….as opposed to what he is." And ends with Doug Flutie for President signage and Wade saying, "If I had started Doug, we would have won." Poor Rob!
Pyrite Gal Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Debatable...and Ralph's staff were involved, too. Like any trade. RJ looked like the quarterback equivalent of a thoroughbred race horse at the time. I was long gone from WNY when he was traded for - so I defer to others. But I never got the impression that he was a slacker, a complainer or whiner. I do recall hearing some chat about Flutie not exactly adding positive, helpful things to the situation. My sense was that the mistake which was made was not the trade for RJ, (a 1st and a 4th rd pick was not an unreasonable amount to pay for a vet QB who you believed in even if his record gives one hope but is no sure thing). The two mistakes which were made were: 1. The Bills decided to pay him a huge bonus up front without him proving himself to be reliably healthy. Some argue that you had to pay him the huge bonus contract up front or he might simply refuse to sign and play out the season and hit FA and we get nothing for him. I think this is incorrect as even if it took half a season of play for us to be sure of RJ, it seems incredibly unlikely that even if he had an outstanding 4-8 games that he would run the risk of getting hurt by refusing to sign a deal so he could put himself out to bid as an FA. I think the worse thing that could have happened to us if we had waited on signing him for 4-8 games is that he did well and we would have been forced to give him a $30 million contract at the time rather than the $25 million contract he signed. 5 million is big bucks but even if he proved to be the real deal I think this would have been a small price to pay for a now proven franchise QB. What would have happened in real life is that RJ started going down to his string of injuries relatively early in his first season and as it happened, he could have been signed for far less or the Bills would have simply eaten the 1st and 4th they are anyway for this failed QB but we would not have given him the $8 million bonus to play hurt for us. Ralph and Butler made the mistake of signing him to the big contract rather than hanging tough. Wade made the mistake on not seeing what other's claim in retrospect to have seen immediately (and which RJ's own comments seem to bear out with him saying take care of yourself first) of misreading how much of a football player he was). 2. Ralph, Butler and the team made a huge error is not giving Flutie a fair shot to win the starting QB job on the field and also of at least giving him the impression he would get a fair shot at the job. Flutie already had a chip as big as a planer on his shoulder because no NFL GM/owner believed in him. The Bills simply made this worse by bringing him in with an incentive laden contract and then by mortgaging the farm for RJ essentially relegated Flutie to a sub role where if RJ remained healthy, Flutie would have ended up signing for chump change. Its too bad that DF could not be a secure enough guy that he is could do more than simply win to inspire loyalty and a following. However, given how badly the Bills braintrust treated him and his history of being a short guy it is little wonder to me that though he was successful as a player he was a successful a-hole.
Billadelphia Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 ...and Wade saying, "If I had started Doug, we would have won." I missed that. That's gold!
stuckincincy Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 My sense was that the mistake which was made was not the trade for RJ, (a 1st and a 4th rd pick was not an unreasonable amount to pay for a vet QB who you believed in even if his record gives one hope but is no sure thing). The two mistakes which were made were: ... I am waiting for a new cryptic, PG. We have sparred for years so you owe me... get ur done!
tomdayfan Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 At least during that era we had an all time classic sign in the stadium: Who needs a big Johnson when you have a little Flutie?
mcjeff215 Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Great video...but man, once I heard "Music City Miracle" I turned it off too. Still painful. I turned on the NHL network a week or so ago just in time to watch the final 4 seconds of game seven of the Buffalo/Carolina ECF. The MCM is much like 'Wide Right.' Every damn time I see either one, I always hope the play turns out differently. A little to the left or a special teams tackle at their 40. You know, maybe next reply will be slightly different... It'd be cool to see someone edit the video to make it turn out that way. Just once!
gmac17 Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 and played video games and ate egg whites it's amazing how one quote from a newspaper article can stick around so long. I believe it was an "unnamed player" (flutie) who complained that all johnson did was play video games and eat hard boiled eggs.... classic stuff.
Buftex Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 I know this won't be a popular sentiment, but Rob Johnson was not the worst QB the Bills have had since Jim Kelly walked away...
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