Bishop Hedd Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 He wasn't pre-ordained by the corporate media like queen Hillary, he didn't have the moldy Democratic apparatus from the '90's like Hillary, he campaigned hard, took a different strategy in the primary season and beat the Clinton monster fair and square. This case is closed.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Obama "raced to the top" with voters... Clinton "raced to the bottom." If it really makes a difference that disgrunlted woman and poor, less educated white people feel the need to do a complete 180 from their party and vote McCain... And McCain wins... So be it...
blzrul Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Hillary's speech last night made my skin crawl. At first I thought she was going to make a gracious concession...they I commented to my husband that she was auditioning for Veep...then it struck me that she's trying to FORCE her way onto the ticket as Veep. It's not gonna work...
/dev/null Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Obama got the nomination because of superior planning and political organization. He knew how and where to focus to maximize his delegate pickups. Meanwhile Hillary's planning and political organization was based off the general election because she couldn't possibly lose the Democratic Nomination
PastaJoe Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Hillary ended the primary season with another strong win in South Dakota, and worked hard to get the most popular votes in primary history. I'm glad that she gave a strong speech last night that reemphasized why so many people believe she's the best candidate for the Democrats. But it appears that the party leaders are going to side with the media and go with the new kid on the block. If the numbers don't change, hopefully the presumptive nominee will do the smart thing and include Hillary on the ticket. You can't make change unless you have the job, and having both on the ticket is the best path to victory.
/dev/null Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Hillary ended the primary season with another strong win in South Dakota Not really. The polls in South Dakota where Hillary won 55-44 (10k vote margin) closed before the polls in Montana, where Obama won 57-42 (30k vote margin) So your statement should be more like Obama ended the primary season with another strong win in Montana
blzrul Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 The most interesting analyses I heard last night was the comparison of speeches: 1) Hillary - me me me 2) McCain - Obama sucks 3) Obama - making America and the world a better place Gee I wonder why Obama won the nomination
Chilly Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 John McCain's campaign message caused Barack Obama to win the nomination? Logic concedes.
yall Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 John McCain's campaign message caused Barack Obama to win the nomination? Logic concedes. Too bad Clinton won't.
PastaJoe Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 The most interesting analyses I heard last night was the comparison of speeches: 1) Hillary - me me me 2) McCain - Obama sucks 3) Obama - making America and the world a better place Gee I wonder why Obama won the nomination The way I heard it was more like: 1) Hillary - I'll keep fighting for you 2) McCain - When's the Bingo game start? 3) Obama - Hillary has some great ideas and we should embrace them Of course the media like Keith Olbermann were humping the TV monitors when Obama was speaking.
Wacka Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Obama- I am going to cure all the ills in the world. I will heal the sick, feed the poor, end all wars, and walk on water.
/dev/null Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 The way I heard it was more like: 1) Hillary - I'll keep fighting for you 2) McCain - When's the Bingo game start? 3) Obama - Hillary has some great ideas and we should embrace them Of course the media like Keith Olbermann were humping the TV monitors when Obama was speaking. The way I heard it was more like: Hillary: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned McCain: Obama sucks (omfg I agree with blzrul ) Obama: Sparkles and Sunshine. Oh and McCain=Bush=Bad Do agree with you about Olbertard
DC Tom Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Hillary ended the primary season with another strong win in South Dakota, and worked hard to get the most popular votes in primary history. I'm glad that she gave a strong speech last night that reemphasized why so many people believe she's the best candidate for the Democrats. But it appears that the party leaders are going to side with the media and go with the new kid on the block. If the numbers don't change, hopefully the presumptive nominee will do the smart thing and include Hillary on the ticket. You can't make change unless you have the job, and having both on the ticket is the best path to victory. You think professional wrestling is real, don't you?
blzrul Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 I didn't see Obama's speech. Watched part of McCain's but he has such a whiny voice I turned to Deadliest Catch....watched part of Hillary's but she's so stupid I turned to the Mariners game...turned back to see Obama just leaving the stage.
DC Tom Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 I didn't see Obama's speech. Watched part of McCain's but he has such a whiny voice I turned to Deadliest Catch....watched part of Hillary's but she's so stupid I turned to the Mariners game...turned back to see Obama just leaving the stage. There's a deeper significance in your post, in the symbolism of Hillary losing support to the benefit of the bottom-feeding Mariners.
blzrul Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 There's a deeper significance in your post, in the symbolism of Hillary losing support to the benefit of the bottom-feeding Mariners. I know, they really suck. I watch them with horrid fascination to see just how BAD they can get. IF you can't be the BEST, be the BEST at being the WORST. That's a philosphy I learned from being a Bills fan and it's served me well relative to the M's.
KD in CA Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 I heard a hybrid of what the other sane people in this thread heard: Hillary: me me me McCain: Obama sucks Obama: Sparkles and Sunshine. Oh and McCain=Bush=Bad And I love the Hillarites turning on their own. They sure were big Olbertard fans for most of the past 8 years.
PastaJoe Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 And I love the Hillarites turning on their own. They sure were big Olbertard fans for most of the past 8 years. I liked him as a sports reporter, but he's as looney as O'Reilly as a political commentator. He doesn't even pretend to be objective anymore since he jumped on the Soul Train.
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