Chicken Wing '73 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Yeah, I've been waiting for ours. Pretty fair review. The only part I took exception with was the comment of not having much behind Lynch. He mentions Dewayne Wright but not Fred Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyk12 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 nice review, should have been a B plus after reading it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've heard this for way to many years without seeing results. It's time to actually make significant progress and get into the playoffs. 50,000+ season ticket holders are hoping so as well. I think it's fair to expect a playoff team with the roster in place now. It could get ugly if this team stumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 It could be the last gasp of the "Buffalo Bills" if we don't get into the playoffs in the next 2 seasons. We could very well end up as either the new LA or Toronto team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 It could be the last gasp of the "Buffalo Bills" if we don't get into the playoffs in the next 2 seasons. We could very well end up as either the new LA or Toronto team. Thanks, I hadn't heard that was a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've heard this for way to many years without seeing results. It's time to actually make significant progress and get into the playoffs. Negative Nelly! With their next pick Buffalo bolstered their depth at linebacker by selecting Alvin Bowen of Iowa St. "Ace", as he is known, is extremely undersized (6-1, 223) Why do NFL "experts" keep saying this? A.J. Hawk the fifth pick in the 2006 draft is 6'1" (248), Ernie Sims taken 9th in 2006 is 6'0" (225), Chad Greenway taken 17th in 2006 is 6"2 (242), Keith Rivers taken 9th this year is 6'2" (241) and Jerod Mayo taken 10th this year is 6'1" (242). Can somebody explain why Alvin Bowen is "extremely undersized"? This isn't the only place I've heard this said about Bowen. He may be a little underweight but I think an NFL training program can add some weight to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've heard this for way to many years without seeing results. It's time to actually make significant progress and get into the playoffs. True, but he hasn't been saying it for years. That guys been pretty down on the Bills for a while now and never really says a whole lot of good about them or their drafts. Good to see a change in heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Negative Nelly! With their next pick Buffalo bolstered their depth at linebacker by selecting Alvin Bowen of Iowa St. "Ace", as he is known, is extremely undersized (6-1, 223) Why do NFL "experts" keep saying this? A.J. Hawk the fifth pick in the 2006 draft is 6'1" (248), Ernie Sims taken 9th in 2006 is 6'0" (225), Chad Greenway taken 17th in 2006 is 6"2 (242), Keith Rivers taken 9th this year is 6'2" (241) and Jerod Mayo taken 10th this year is 6'1" (242). Can somebody explain why Alvin Bowen is "extremely undersized"? This isn't the only place I've heard this said about Bowen. He may be a little underweight but I think an NFL training program can add some weight to him. Because he's short AND underweight? Excluding Ernie Sims, the four guys you compared him to are 20 pounds heavier. That's a lot for a LB who is being blocked by 300 pounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Negative Nelly! With their next pick Buffalo bolstered their depth at linebacker by selecting Alvin Bowen of Iowa St. "Ace", as he is known, is extremely undersized (6-1, 223) Why do NFL "experts" keep saying this? A.J. Hawk the fifth pick in the 2006 draft is 6'1" (248), Ernie Sims taken 9th in 2006 is 6'0" (225), Chad Greenway taken 17th in 2006 is 6"2 (242), Keith Rivers taken 9th this year is 6'2" (241) and Jerod Mayo taken 10th this year is 6'1" (242). Can somebody explain why Alvin Bowen is "extremely undersized"? This isn't the only place I've heard this said about Bowen. He may be a little underweight but I think an NFL training program can add some weight to him. Just at first glance, maybe the fact that 4 of your 5 examples are 20 lbs. heavier than he is? Edit, Kelly beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewy23 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 That was a good review, but I have to wonder about their prep work when they talk about Omon: "With Anthony Thomas gone Buffalo really doesn't have too much to get excited about beyond Lynch so Omon could have an opportunity to compete for the #2 or #3 spot on the depth chart right away as a rookie." They don't even mention Fred Jackson. Jackson was great last year when we needed him and I'm surprised that they didn't even mention him as being somebody to "get excited about" or as competition for the #2 or #3 RB. Like I said, good review except for that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Friends Call Me Tebucky Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 People got "excited" about having Anthony Thomas as a backup? Ever? Did that really happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billadelphia Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Negative Nelly! With their next pick Buffalo bolstered their depth at linebacker by selecting Alvin Bowen of Iowa St. "Ace", as he is known, is extremely undersized (6-1, 223) Why do NFL "experts" keep saying this? A.J. Hawk the fifth pick in the 2006 draft is 6'1" (248), Ernie Sims taken 9th in 2006 is 6'0" (225), Chad Greenway taken 17th in 2006 is 6"2 (242), Keith Rivers taken 9th this year is 6'2" (241) and Jerod Mayo taken 10th this year is 6'1" (242). Can somebody explain why Alvin Bowen is "extremely undersized"? This isn't the only place I've heard this said about Bowen. He may be a little underweight but I think an NFL training program can add some weight to him. Not to mention, he's all muscle. His torso looks almost freakishly V shaped. It's going to be tough for him to put on that extra 20lbs that he needs to be effective in the NFL. It's one thing if you're undersized, but underdeveloped as well and able to be developed into the mold of an NFL linebacker (i.e. 6'2 245). In looking at him, he looks like his body is about as developed as it's going to get unless he can add some serious bulk. http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/pa...ls/8jo33390.jpg If you look at him in this picture, you can see how somebody can call him undersized for an NFL linebacker. Some of the videos of him show it as well. To put it in perspective, he's the same weight as Roy Williams for the Cowboys and only an inch taller. Roy's a big safety, but would get beat down as a linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Because he's short AND underweight? Excluding Ernie Sims, the four guys you compared him to are 20 pounds heavier. That's a lot for a LB who is being blocked by 300 pounders. Agree. I think it is also about the "look" of the player. Poz was drafted at 6-1 230-something, only about 10lbs more than Bowen, but Bowen looks like a WR and Poz has bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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