Chilly Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 A review of Obama's voting coalition, part 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 You just gave PastaJoe a woody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 A review of Obama's voting coalition, part 3 Interesting analysis, but I would argue that Clinton is so polarizing that there is no way a republican leaning swing state would go her way in the general. Granted, I don't think Obama would do any better, but I think Hillary would mobilze Pub's more than Kerry did in '04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Interesting analysis, but I would argue that Clinton is so polarizing that there is no way a republican leaning swing state would go her way in the general. Granted, I don't think Obama would do any better, but I think Hillary would mobilze Pub's more than Kerry did in '04. Rest assured that if Hitlery steals the nomination, the VRWC will show up in force come November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Interesting analysis, but I would argue that Clinton is so polarizing that there is no way a republican leaning swing state would go her way in the general. Granted, I don't think Obama would do any better, but I think Hillary would mobilze Pub's more than Kerry did in '04. What I think she would do would prevent the conservatives that are fed up with the Repulican party (like I am) from voting libertarian (like I'm thinking) from actually doing that just to make sure she doesn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 What I think she would do would prevent the conservatives that are fed up with the Repulican party (like I am) from voting libertarian (like I'm thinking) from actually doing that just to make sure she doesn't win. Exactly my thinking as well and exactly how I plan to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Exactly my thinking as well and exactly how I plan to vote. Wow! Who would have ever thought Bob Barr would siphon off votes from McCain. I guess that performance in Borat put him over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Wow! Who would have ever thought Bob Barr would siphon off votes from McCain. I guess that performance in Borat put him over the top. Maybe we'll return the favor from 2000 when all those vote for Nadar cost ALGORE the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 Exactly my thinking as well and exactly how I plan to vote. I would have, if they didn't suck a douche out of the Republican party to be their candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 suck a douche Isn't that a lyric in Blinded By the Light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Isn't that a lyric in Blinded By the Light? wrapped up like a douche, another boner in the night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Isn't that a lyric in Blinded By the Light? And you're bagging on my sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_.../obama_strategy Good article about Obama's strategy and why he's overcome the odds to outmaneuver Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_.../obama_strategy Good article about Obama's strategy and why he's overcome the odds to outmaneuver Hillary. Very good article, and the kind of stuff that people are just disregarding about him. The people he surrounded himself with in his campaign, and how they performed, is 10x more indicative of his ability to be President than his choice of pastor, or who he once had over at his house for a business meeting. The final paragraph was a good summation and why IMO he is going to win this thing, they know how to play the game and they have the right guy at the right time under the circumstances to play it with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Very good article, and the kind of stuff that people are just disregarding about him. The people he surrounded himself with in his campaign, and how they performed, is 10x more indicative of his ability to be President than his choice of pastor, or who he once had over at his house for a business meeting. The final paragraph was a good summation and why IMO he is going to win this thing, they know how to play the game and they have the right guy at the right time under the circumstances to play it with. History shows its a helluva lot harder to build a brand-spanking-new winning coalition in the general election than it is in a primary. Thats not to say he couldn't do it, but rather gives me plenty of reason to be skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_.../obama_strategy Good article about Obama's strategy and why he's overcome the odds to outmaneuver Hillary. So what you're saying is Obama did a better job hiring spin doctors and sphengalis than the Clintonisatas did? Chaaaaaaaaange We neeed Chaaaaaaaange The King is dead. Long live the King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Exactly my thinking as well and exactly how I plan to vote. Strange... Are you guys (Chef) actually advocating the "lesser of two evils" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 wrapped up like a douche, another boner in the night Reved up like a deuce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Reved up like a deuce. Psst he was kidding. The was sorta the giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Psst he was kidding. The was sorta the giveaway. Pssst... I know, it was for the other turds out there! Before it ran away in Crayonz fashion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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