buffalobillsfootball Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Senator Campbell is bang on: NFL bad for CanadaThreat to CFL is genuine as Bills test waters in Toronto David Pratt Tuesday, May 27, 2008 If the Buffalo Bills relocate to Toronto, it will spell the death of the CFL. Don't listen to me. Listen to him. ...In the next few weeks, Senator Larry Campbell will draft a bill to protect Canada from the NFL. The threat is real and, yes, this is a fight worth fighting. On Dec. 7, the Buffalo Bills will play the Miami Dolphins in Toronto. It's the first of eight regular-season and exhibition games Ted Rogers will spend $78 million on over the next five years to help fund a much bigger scheme to relocate the Bills to that city by 2013. The result will be the death of the CFL. One hundred years of Canadian history flushed down the toilet. "It's time that we just say 'enough,' " Campbell insists, "It doesn't make any sense politically, financially or culturally." For the past six months, Bob Ackles, president of the B.C Lions, has been ringing the exact same alarm bells: "It would kill the Grey Cup and the CFL." Ackles has already addressed the issue with Prime Minister Stephen Harper and has been assured of his support. It's easy to understand why. It cuts right to the heart of national unity and will once again demand Western Canadians to ask the most important question of their time: "Why are we in this marriage?" "I'd like to see politicians stand up and vote on this," says Campbell about his proposed bill. "I'd like to see somebody from Saskatchewan vote against it." In the end it all comes down to money. The Bills have the lowest average ticket price in the NFL and rank in the bottom 25 per cent of all league games in revenue generated; Toronto is the fifth-largest market in North America, with fans willing to pay $250 a ticket. So if Rogers is willing to spend $1 billion of his own money to buy an NFL team, who's going to stop him? The NFL. Toronto does not have a stadium that even comes close to meeting league standards. Rogers Centre can hold a mere 53,000 fans for football, well below the minimum requirement of 65,000 and light years from the new stadiums being built in L.A. and Dallas, which will hold between 75,000 and 100,000. Any attempt to upgrade Rogers Centre would not only be outrageously expensive, but would also leave the Toronto Blue Jays in the parking lot for at least two years. The only answer is a new stadium, but neither the City of Toronto nor the Province of Ontario is willing to commit any money to such a project. It leaves Rogers and his partner Larry Tanenbaum with two options: a) write a personal cheque for another $1 billion; or b) knock on the door of the federal government. Plan B would have taxpayers from all over Canada watching their money spent to kill their own football teams. "I want a debate on this thing," says Campbell, "I want communities to write their MPs." Once again, we are reminded that nobody in Toronto really gives a damn who suffers, just as long as they get what they want. That's not my opinion. It's Senator Larry Campbell's.
PromoTheRobot Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 The solution is a limiting Bills games to 4-5 max a season in Canada. Keep the majority of games in Buffalo but play enough games in T.O. to milk the corporate money. PTR
Rubes Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 On Dec. 7, the Buffalo Bills will play the Miami Dolphins in Toronto. It's the first of eight regular-season and exhibition games... Seems he forgot about that little pre-season spat against Pittsburgh in August. Regardless, I hope it's right. And I think Promo's probably got it...if the Bills don't relocate, I would expect probably a 50-50 split of games at some point in the future.
Typical TBD Guy Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Seems he forgot about that little pre-season spat against Pittsburgh in August. Regardless, I hope it's right. And I think Promo's probably got it...if the Bills don't relocate, I would expect probably a 50-50 split of games at some point in the future. But a 50-50 split would still creep into the CFL season. More likely, Toronto gets our worthless 2 preseason games in August plus 2 home games in December. Buffalo gets the other 6 games from September-November plus they get to keep the name, BUFFALO Bills. Best of both worlds: Buffalo keeps its team and milks the Toronto market enough to stay financially competitive; Toronto satisfies its NFL demands without destroying the CFL in the process. Honestly, I think us Buffalonians need to be more worried about LA.
BillnutinHouston Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 This may move the equation toward the "Buffalo-Niagara Bills", with a new stadium in Niagara Falls (US side).
Ray Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 The pessimists seem to always forget that there is a huge contingent north of the border VERY opposed to any NFL team there.........do you think most Canadians want an NFL team at the dissolution of their own league? Do you think the taxpayers of Canada want to finance a $1B dollar stadium so that it can be half filled when they stink and only corporate types go to the games? Again, as I have said before the Bills are going nowhere but Buffalo!!!!! There are too many hurdles to move to Toronto. Yes, they can sell tix at $200/seat now because it is an event! Do you think the Sabres would sell out The Ralph like the Winter Classic if they played 20 games there? Of course not....you can fill a place a lot easier if it's an event. How about those Blue Jays.....they draw real well. Not sure all Torontonians want another average team at the expense of a lot of other things. The Bills are staying in Buffalo. They will be profitable....granted not Jerry Jones or Bob Craft profitable but the next owner may not need to be profitable at the tune of $30M/year...maybe its $15M/year. Yes, the Bills stay. Sorry for all the fatalistic types out there. The sky is not falling. Buffalo will stabilize and is well positioned to be the mid point of the third biggest mega-opolis in North America from Rochester to Toronto. That's a lot to draw from people!!!
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