Typical TBD Guy Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Here's a website to guide you: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polit...ctoral-college/ My prediction has McCain beating Obama 274-264. I essentially took the 2004 election results and then had New Hampshire, Colorado, and Iowa switching sides. What's yours?
Chilly Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Couple sites around the web that make predictions: http://www.electionprojection.com/ http://www.electoral-vote.com/ The site the Washington Post stole the idea from: http://www.270towin.com/ Right now, changes I see from 2004: NH - McCain IN - Obama IA - Obama Which would put McCain 272, Obama 266 - an incredibly close race. Of course, this will change many, many times before the actual election happens
Typical TBD Guy Posted May 14, 2008 Author Posted May 14, 2008 Thanks, BlueFire. The first link is pretty interesting. A lot can/will change between now and November, but as of this moment it looks like the Dems are rallying behind the wrong candidate .
/dev/null Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 I came out with McCain winning 276-262 CA, OR, WA, HI, WI, OH, IL, MI and the north east (everything above Maryland) going for Obama Rest of the country for McCain
DC Tom Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 I see Hillary wining, because it's the will of the people.
bills_fan Posted May 14, 2008 Posted May 14, 2008 Couple sites around the web that make predictions: http://www.electionprojection.com/ http://www.electoral-vote.com/ The site the Washington Post stole the idea from: http://www.270towin.com/ Right now, changes I see from 2004: NH - McCain IN - Obama IA - Obama Which would put McCain 272, Obama 266 - an incredibly close race. Of course, this will change many, many times before the actual election happens I see PA, MI and OH being the crucial swing states. If McCain takes 2/3, he wins. Obama has had his problems winning in the rust belt.
pBills Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 I just don't see McCain beating either of the Dem candidates.
colin Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 fla, oh, mi mccain gets these he walks away with it. he can miss mi and still win. i've put my money on mccain. don't think he'll be a very good president, but i'll take the money ever time.
PastaJoe Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 If it's Obama, McCain wins 293-245. If it's Clinton, Clinton wins 292-246. The difference is winning the key swing states like Ohio, Penn., and Michigan.
stuckincincy Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 If it's Obama, McCain wins 293-245. If it's Clinton, Clinton wins 292-246. The difference is winning the key swing states like Ohio, Penn., and Michigan. To use a favorite DEM term - "disenfranchisement" - haven't the DEM primary voters in FL and MI been disenfranchised?
drnykterstein Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 I had Obama at 538, and McCain at 0. I think that was as accurate as you can get.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 I just don't see McCain beating either of the Dem candidates. 1. People will not vote for a minority. 2. People will not vote for a woman. 3. Hillary supporters hate Obama so much that they will not vote at all. 4. Obama supporters hate Hillary so much that they will not vote at all.
PastaJoe Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 To use a favorite DEM term - "disenfranchisement" - haven't the DEM primary voters in FL and MI been disenfranchised? Yes they have, but not by Clinton.
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 15, 2008 Posted May 15, 2008 I had Obama at 538, and McCain at 0. I think that was as accurate as you can get. I had McCain at -46... You know the "FlightSuit" "Mission Accomplished" "I gave up golf to honor our dead soldiers" backlash tie-in to him... And now by his own account: "we can win in Iraq in 4 years" (actually that may put him in the postive). You can't underestimate that effect!
PTS Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 It's going to be a rout for McCain if Obama is the Dem to be. If it's Hilary, the race will be tighter. I think McCain will win PA, MI, WI, MN and OR against Obama. All states that GWB barely losed to Kerry. Obama doesn't stand a chance in the deep south. Outside of California and DC, he won't win anything south of Illinois.
Alaska Darin Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 I just don't see McCain beating either of the Dem candidates. Gee, that doesn't sound at all familiar. 2000? 2004? The best thing that could possibly happen for the Democrats is someone like Barr getting some coin to put together a campaign. That might syphon enough votes...
KD in CA Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Yes they have, but not by Clinton. Not by Obama either. And not by anyone else who was not in charge of FL Dem party's decision to move the primary date against the established rules. Gee, that doesn't sound at all familiar. 2000? 2004? Memories....
Alaska Darin Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Not by Obama either. And not by anyone else who was not in charge of FL Dem party's decision to move the primary date against the established rules. Memories.... How the hell was that not pinned? I miss that guy.
pBills Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 1. People will not vote for a minority.2. People will not vote for a woman. 3. Hillary supporters hate Obama so much that they will not vote at all. 4. Obama supporters hate Hillary so much that they will not vote at all. People want the war to end. People want a stronger economy. Both Hillary and Obama have got to be better than the guy who stated he didn't know much. #3 - not buying it. People will see the alternative. McCain or vote for a democrat you may not like completely. #4 - same as #3. I am one of those people. I can not stand Hillary. But she would be better than McCain.
Alaska Darin Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 People want to war to end.People want a stronger economy. Both Hillary and Obama have got to be better than the guy who stated he didn't know much. #3 - not buying it. People will see the alternative. McCain or vote for a democrat you may not like completely. #4 - same as #3. I am one of those people. I can not stand Hillary. But she would be better than McCain.
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