PromoTheRobot Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 1) The NFL has nothing to gain and everything to lose by revealing the Pats* did indeed cheat. Revealing that 3 Super Bowls were won fraudulently would be the worst sports scandal in history, worse than the Black Sox scandal. It's easier to just make it go away than to answer to fans, networks, casinos, and Congress that the NFL is not a clean league. 2) The networks do not want a scandal. Think about how many networks work with the NFL. Think about how many news departments are connected with those networks. Then consider why "Spygate" has been an afterthought. Matt Walsh will be buried in the middle of the sports section. 3) The sports media are attacking Walsh. He's a grandstander, attention whore, you name it. Journalists who cover the NFL are trying to outdo each other in the assasination of Matt Walsh's character. 4) Bob Kraft is too powerful. Rookie commissioner Roger Goodell will not go after one of the most powerful owners in the league. Especially not one who is in bed with CBS who is investing in the "Patriots* Place" development. 5) No one is backing up Specter. Arlen Specter is sick with cancer again, and none of his fellow Senators cares about Spygate. In fact many are working on the NFL's behalf with brooms in hand. So don't expect the truth to ever come out. The best we can hope for is that Goodell will put Kraft and Belichick on notice that they are being watched now. Hopefully all the new "Patriots*" rule changes will make it harder for those cheating scumbags to get away with crap. I also hope that NFL fans everywhere never let the Pats* forget they are stinkin' cheaters. Just like O.J., you may have beat the system, but we all know you're guilty. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I get the feeling that you've spoken the harsh truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I get the feeling that you've spoken the harsh truth. The SB game goes a loooooooonnnnnnnggggggg way in salving the wounds of this cover up. I still giggle every now and then when I think about it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 6) The teams that are affected won't push it, because they want it to go away. Witness the Steelers. Not one team has stepped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 13, 2008 Author Share Posted May 13, 2008 6) The teams that are affected won't push it, because they want it to go away. Witness the Steelers. Not one team has stepped up. The league owners know better than to draw negative attention to the NFL. (see reason #1) Their response are several new "Patriot" rules like radios for defensive captains. I'll also be curious to see if the Pats* still get preferential treatment from the refs. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_franchise Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Since Belichick* is such a great coach, he'll find another way to get back to cheating without getting caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 The league owners know better than to draw negative attention to the NFL. (see reason #1) Their response are several new "Patriot" rules like radios for defensive captains. I'll also be curious to see if the Pats* still get preferential treatment from the refs. PTR yes, I agree. I meant it would change things considerably if the affected teams stood up to the NFL and said this is so wrong, they had an unfair competitive advantage and we want xyz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 6) The teams that are affected won't push it, because they want it to go away. Witness the Steelers. Not one team has stepped up. Kind of like cops ratting on other cops, its just considered breaking the brotherhood. Much easier to take the stance of hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 In general I think this shows a good case where an industry cannot be expected to "police" itself on issues involving societal moral principles. The clarion call of the almighty dollar means any NFL finding which falls short of totally lambasting the Pats will be looked at with suspicion. Its too bad because there is so much $ involved and the NFL has routinely seemed to be moved around by the $, that merely through the appearance of impropriety the Pats have mortgaged even the little trust that the NFL had. The irony here is that unless the harshest judgment possible comes out against the Pats, the NFL has already lost any sense of principle which it had (and this was not much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanstoprobowl Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I love how the ESPN site has an article about how much of a prankster Todd Light is instead of how this issue tarnishes the league. That speaks volumes about how this is going to be brushed aside. I feel like a guy who finds out his wife was cheating on him and everyone says these things happen in life get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Kind of like cops ratting on other cops, its just considered breaking the brotherhood. Much easier to take the stance of hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. See Jim Boeheim's comments regarding the Asst. Coach who taped the HC's meeting where he laid out is plan to discredit a murdered player (baylor) to hide the fact that he gave the kid 25K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 13, 2008 Author Share Posted May 13, 2008 See Jim Boeheim's comments regarding the Asst. Coach who taped the HC's meeting where he laid out is plan to discredit a murdered player (baylor) to hide the fact that he gave the kid 25K. Can you give us details of that? I barely remember that episode much less Coach Jim's comments. EDIT: I just googled the story (Crossing the line) The moral is people are more concerned about snitches than stopping the people guilty of a crime. By the way I love how that creep, ex-Baylor coach Bliss, is now coaching Christian athletes. The scumbag is now the "hero" and the real hero is treated like a leper. That's the world we live in. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I love how the ESPN site has an article about how much of a prankster Todd Light is instead of how this issue tarnishes the league. That speaks volumes about how this is going to be brushed aside. I feel like a guy who finds out his wife was cheating on him and everyone says these things happen in life get over it. Its more like a kid who kills his parents and they give him a break because he's an orphan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngunz Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 6) The teams that are affected won't push it, because they want it to go away. Witness the Steelers. Not one team has stepped up. 7) The SuperBowl is the single biggest gambling day in the world. If the investigation revealed the truth millions of gamblers turn on the NFL. SCORING 1 2 3 4 OT T St. Louis ___3 0 0 14 17 New England 0 14 3 3 20 The Greatest Show on Turf and they get only 3pts in 45 minutes. Warner picked twice, one for a TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Clayton shows he can type with his mouth full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 He told Goodell that he was setting up video equipment for the next day. ESPN's Sal Paolantonio reported Walsh noticed that Rams back Marshall Faulk was lined up in a formation on a kickoff and that a tight end went into a different motion on another play. Walsh told Goodell that Brian Daboll, who was then the Patriots' receivers coach, asked Walsh what he saw at the Rams' walk-through. As much as that shouldn't have happened, it's the Rams' responsibility to kick Walsh off the field during a walk-through. He told Goodell he was wearing a Patriots coat. During Super Bowl week, participating teams have control of their practice field and have the right to boot any representative from an opposing team. If that's exactly as it happened it's a lot different than him hiding in the upper deck taking notes which is what I thought happened. If the Rams didn't kick him out then they are stupid. If the Bills were involved in something like that I wouldn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 The piece of this that's comical is the Patriots are ALMOST coming off looking innocent, and pounding their chests about it..."See! We told you we didn't tape the Rams' walkthru!!" Walsh personally turned over 7 tapes from the '01-'02 seasons. Think how many more there were. And Walsh disclosed that he was VERY fearful of being caught taping during games, and that Belichick and management repeatedly informed the videographers to be discreet. It's very clear they knew what they were doing was against the rules. Belichick's weak excuses last season ("We misinterpreted a rule" and "We gained no competetive advantage") are complete b.s. If there was no competetive advantage, you wouldn't have KNOWINGLY broken the rules. IMO, if he was fined $500K for the taping of the Jets, he should get whacked for the same amount for each of these 7 tapes also. In addition, the Boston Herald looks like a real rinky-dink operation today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 3) The sports media are attacking Walsh.He's a grandstander, attention whore, you name it. Journalists who cover the NFL are trying to outdo each other in the assasination of Matt Walsh's character. Ain't that the truth. At one point, I heard the talking heads saying, "I've talked to hundreds and hundreds of people and not one of them, not one, had a single decent thing to say about this guy." (Wow, really? Who the !@#$ are these "people"? Hopefully not his family.) The part that got me laughing though was the bald assertion that "everybody knew there was nothing to it." Um, yeah, riiiiight. It was obvious because it took 7 months of legal posturing by the Patriots, NFL, Walsh, and Specter to get him to turn over the "nothing" to the NFL offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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