colin Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 The game is secondary exactly. if the game mattered they wouldn't let the ref just make up how long extra time is.
Cugalabanza Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Melon balls? Casaba? Honeydew? Canary? What...? Don't be fatuous, cincy. You know damn well what I mean. Casaba of course (in honor of one of my heroes).
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Face it. Soccer is just a second rate boring-ass sport. Sure i'll watch the World cup, because i can root for the US and because it happens once every 4 years. I dont see how it is exciting to watch 10 guys kick a ball back and forth for 2 minutes to gain 40 yards, only to have a defender blast the ball 60 yards back where it came from. Woohoo! then the other team gets to try move the ball again! Think how bad hockey would suck if there was no whistle for icing, the players couldnt hit the net with their shots, every bit of contact resulted in a candy ass dive and flop with a stretcher coming out onto the ice, the 3rd period didnt stop when the clock hit 0:00, the ref just randomly stopped the game at some random point thereafter, the people lobbed urine bombs every game at the rink, and the refs ran the risk of being shot each time they stepped out on the ice, and you'll understand why most people think soccer sucks. Like watching WWI all over again!
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 you called me ignorant, stupid, and brainwashed and showed you were incapable of refuting any of my points (YOU ACTUALY SAID SOCCER REQUIRES GREAT HAND EYE COORDINATION AND IS A POWER SPORT) before i returned the favor. i think soccer is great, it gives children an outlet to run around and burn energy, and helps keep some kinda butch girls thinner. it's like blocks mixed with hop scotch and diet pills. and why do you want me to be mad about highlights on sports center? i'm happy that you can drive home in your prious and sit cross legged on your peach and birch hemp couch while the kick ball highlights come one. i heard that a small scrawny euro kicked the ball! that must have rocked! You go colin!
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Now... Aussie rules football and Gaelic football should be more on the rise than soccer! I just don't get traditional soccer... There are other derivatives of better games (like the two mentioned above).
JPicc2114 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Mixed Martial Arts is by far the fastest growing sport and has overtaken boxing in popularity pretty much.. might as well put boxing on that decline list.
plenzmd1 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 My quick replies 1)According to NASCAR and the TV networks, Nascar has peaked and is in decline. The core NASCAR fan is leaving, and NASCAR recognizes this is actively marketing to get them back in the sport. On track attendance, spending at race day, tv ratings have all been in a steady decline for the last three years. 2) Hockey is not in decline, it just is not growing in popularity. NHL is recognizing what NASCAR has, and that is you have to keep your core group of fans. 3) Soccer to me sucks except for the big world cup games. Having said that, I have been to a Premiership game, and it was an absolute blast. Would go agin in a heartbeat.
bills_fan Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 My quick replies 1)According to NASCAR and the TV networks, Nascar has peaked and is in decline. The core NASCAR fan is leaving, and NASCAR recognizes this is actively marketing to get them back in the sport. On track attendance, spending at race day, tv ratings have all been in a steady decline for the last three years. 2) Hockey is not in decline, it just is not growing in popularity. NHL is recognizing what NASCAR has, and that is you have to keep your core group of fans. 3) Soccer to me sucks except for the big world cup games. Having said that, I have been to a Premiership game, and it was an absolute blast. Would go agin in a heartbeat. But NASCAR is making the same mistake as hockey...abandoning its core markets and taking races away from core tracks to give to markets that don't really care. Hockey took away the Jets and Nordiques. While the Avalanche have been a success, the Coyotes have struggled mightily. Nascar is doing the same thing, taking races away from die hards in VA and NC to stage races in Las Vegas and California that noone really cares about.
plenzmd1 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 But NASCAR is making the same mistake as hockey...abandoning its core markets and taking races away from core tracks to give to markets that don't really care. Hockey took away the Jets and Nordiques. While the Avalanche have been a success, the Coyotes have struggled mightily. Nascar is doing the same thing, taking races away from die hards in VA and NC to stage races in Las Vegas and California that noone really cares about. Yep, and I guess that is waht I trying to say. the NHL came to the realiztion and NASCAR has now too, that if you lose core fans for the appeal of the casual fan, it is not a sustainable model. There are just to many entertainment options available now that to get a casual fan to turn into a core fan that spends money year round and watchers more then the occasional game is very hard to do. NASCAR has realized that "fans" like me read who won the last week, maybe watch the last 15 minutes of Daytona, and spend ZERO dollars in hats, jerseys etc. Noe contrast that with the real growth spurt in the NFL prolly 1970-1990, when most of us grew to love the game. Monday Night you would get a casual fan turning in, as your pther option was TWO shows. No Tivo, No DVDs, no IPODs, no Internet. If you big ass was in a chair in front of a TV on MOnday, 33% chance you had on MNF.
eball Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 But NASCAR is making the same mistake as hockey...abandoning its core markets and taking races away from core tracks to give to markets that don't really care. Hockey took away the Jets and Nordiques. While the Avalanche have been a success, the Coyotes have struggled mightily. Nascar is doing the same thing, taking races away from die hards in VA and NC to stage races in Las Vegas and California that noone really cares about. Let's keep this on point, okay? We're having a blast making fun of soccer.
colin Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 mma is really the fastest growing. the ufc is very smart in what it is doing. they give props to fighters outside of their company while promoting their own brand, and they provide free and ppv matchups. the nhl has just about ruined hockey for me. they are a terrible organization and have made no positive steps at all. the nfl just pwns. i honestly think it is the one league that in no way wants to let the product get diluted at all. they want the traditional markets to stay strong for as long as possible. would any other league push revenue sharing and CBAs while LA didn't have a team?
billygoats Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Well every league in the states has some sort of CBA, that is just a bargaining agreement between capital and labor. Since all the pro leagues have unionized CBAs have become part of the sports landscape. So all the leagues in the US "push" CBAs. Secondly, their is a good chance that the league will be uncapped in 09 which could potentially lead to the end of the cap era and the end of a competitive league. The Craft's and Jones' are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg, because of their exceptional greed. In five to ten years there is a good chance that the NFL will be similar to baseball with 5-6 good teams and the remainder will all be farm teams. This will be Paul Tagliabue's legacy, by forcing a horrible CBA on the owners they are now willing to opt out and possibly put the competitive integrity of the league in the balance. Also, LA doesn't have a team because they couldn't support one in the days when fan attendance actually mattered. Now that TV revenue has become so important as well as luxury seating, don't be surprised to see a team there sometime in the future. The next three to five years will show whether the NFL really is any better the other major leagues in maintaining a competitive product, but I have a feeling some of the traditional markets are going to be losing teams to both LA and Toronto. If I were you I would stop drinking the NFL coolaid, because I have a feeling the league we all love today will be drastically different in the very near future. All that said the NFL has the best product right now because of the cap and if the owners are all on board with that idea and can convince the players of that, then this league may be able to remain competitive in the long term. However, I am not holding my breath, I will enjoy the next few years of good football and hope that they aren't the last.
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