Bill from NYC Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 1) The Bills OL stays healthy, especially Jason Peters, who is presently our best player. It probably isn't close. 2) Our 1st round corner is a star. 3) Hardy is not a criminal. 4) Poz comes back and plays to form. I think that R.Rich was right about this kid. 5) Butler keps progressing. This is freaking huge. 6) Duke Preston is cut. I don't care if he is replaced by a udfa. He is a bad football player. 7) Stroud likes it here, stays healthy, and plays well. He is a badass. 8) McCargo becomes a good, steady player. 9) Parrish doesn't get broken in half. 10) Someone can be a good TE. This is a HUGE reach. Last but far from least, Trent Edwards needs to be even almost as good as I think that he will be. It is a ton to ask or expect from a kid with 9 starts, but I really do see great things in this kid. How perfect would it be for us if he shows enough to unite the crowd at OBD, let alone TSW? I hated this draft, but I will never give up. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
keepthefaith Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 1) The Bills OL stays healthy, especially Jason Peters, who is presently our best player. It probably isn't close. 2) Our 1st round corner is a star. 3) Hardy is not a criminal. 4) Poz comes back and plays to form. I think that R.Rich was right about this kid. 5) Butler keps progressing. This is freaking huge. 6) Duke Preston is cut. I don't care if he is replaced by a udfa. He is a bad football player. 7) Stroud likes it here, stays healthy, and plays well. He is a badass. 8) McCargo becomes a good, steady player. 9) Parrish doesn't get broken in half. 10) Someone can be a good TE. This is a HUGE reach. Last but far from least, Trent Edwards needs to be even almost as good as I think that he will be. It is a ton to ask or expect from a kid with 9 starts, but I really do see great things in this kid. How perfect would it be for us if he shows enough to unite the crowd at OBD, let alone TSW? I hated this draft, but I will never give up. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds great. I didn't see the head coach mentioned anywhere. A little anxiety about Dick's ability to turn talent into wins?
BillsVet Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 Sounds great. I didn't see the head coach mentioned anywhere. A little anxiety about Dick's ability to turn talent into wins? I'm not a DJ fan. Never have been and never will be. He's been called a Monday through Saturday coach by some around here, and that's not good enough in the high stakes NFL world. Make no mistake this season, he's had ultimate control over this roster (see Draft Day 06-08) and his success depends on how well he can get those players to play. He couldn't do it in Chicago, and didn't become a HC for three years after being fired there. For Buffalo to win, two things must happen: 1. Trent Edwards is moderately productive in a scheme that will probably be 55-45 run pass. 3200 yds passing 15-18TD's versus 6-10 picks is not out of the question. 2. Dick Jauron does not make the mistakes he's historically made in gameplanning and on the field decisions to take his team out of games. If those things occur, the talent on paper has the potential to win a lot of games. QB play and coaching will be huge.
Tortured Soul Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 Now let us join hands in prayer... Seriously, I think we're in pretty goods shape. I fully expect 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, and 9 to happen. I hope 6 will happen, but it won't make or break our season. For 10, I think Royal is better than most on the board give him credit for. 7 and Edwards is what keeps me up. Should be fun to see, though. Bill, we have a good offensive line. You'll see.
Bill from NYC Posted April 29, 2008 Author Posted April 29, 2008 I'm not a DJ fan. Never have been and never will be. He's been called a Monday through Saturday coach by some around here, and that's not good enough in the high stakes NFL world. Make no mistake this season, he's had ultimate control over this roster (see Draft Day 06-08) and his success depends on how well he can get those players to play. He couldn't do it in Chicago, and didn't become a HC for three years after being fired there. For Buffalo to win, two things must happen: 1. Trent Edwards is moderately productive in a scheme that will probably be 55-45 run pass. 3200 yds passing 15-18TD's versus 6-10 picks is not out of the question. 2. Dick Jauron does not make the mistakes he's historically made in gameplanning and on the field decisions to take his team out of games. If those things occur, the talent on paper has the potential to win a lot of games. QB play and coaching will be huge. I have zero faith in Jauron. My hope is that the team can win in spite of him, and he gets fired either during, or after the season.
Flbillsfan#1 Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 1) The Bills OL stays healthy, especially Jason Peters, who is presently our best player. It probably isn't close. 2) Our 1st round corner is a star. 3) Hardy is not a criminal. 4) Poz comes back and plays to form. I think that R.Rich was right about this kid. 5) Butler keps progressing. This is freaking huge. 6) Duke Preston is cut. I don't care if he is replaced by a udfa. He is a bad football player. 7) Stroud likes it here, stays healthy, and plays well. He is a badass. 8) McCargo becomes a good, steady player. 9) Parrish doesn't get broken in half. 10) Someone can be a good TE. This is a HUGE reach. Last but far from least, Trent Edwards needs to be even almost as good as I think that he will be. It is a ton to ask or expect from a kid with 9 starts, but I really do see great things in this kid. How perfect would it be for us if he shows enough to unite the crowd at OBD, let alone TSW? I hated this draft, but I will never give up. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just don't get it. Why is JP ALWAYS referred to as a 4year vet when he broke his leg in PRESEASON his ROOKIE YEAR & Trent is "a kid with 9 starts" because he missed the 1st series of the game? It is not like he only played 1 or 2 series HE PLAYED THE ENTIRE GAME EXCEPT FOR 3 offensive plays. To me he should be the 1st thing on the list, not the last. In my opinion the Bills season is in his hands more than anyone else's. If he is 1/2 as good as you think he is the Bills should make the playoffs. GO BILLS
Flbillsfan#1 Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I have zero faith in Jauron. My hope is that the team can win in spite of him, and he gets fired either during, or after the season. I also have little faith in Jauron, but if he is fired, you can bet the Bills had a horrendous season, & will be back to ground 0 albeit with more talent than when Jauron arrived.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Why all the hate for Jauron? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely interested. He's given me reason for hope since he's gotten here, as it feels like he's turned this franchise around from the hellhole it was when he got here. It feels as if the ball is rolling in the right direction.
Nanker Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I pretty much agree with you Bill, but this year's draft was one of many. Next year I'll get ICBM again if the Lines aren't addressed all weekend long. TE is our biggest weakness at the mo, IMHO. Most other spots look a lot brighter than they did on 1/1/08.
Steely Dan Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 I pretty much agree with you Bill, but this year's draft was one of many.Next year I'll get ICBM again if the Lines aren't addressed all weekend long. TE is our biggest weakness at the mo, IMHO. Most other spots look a lot brighter than they did on 1/1/08. Big improvements since the end of the season.
Tcali Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Sounds great. I didn't see the head coach mentioned anywhere. A little anxiety about Dick's ability to turn talent into wins? He is already excellent at squeaking out wins we dont deserve. He outperforms expectations with a low talent football team. Nowv can he win when he has about 75% of the tools he needs?
otisly00 Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 1) The Bills OL stays healthy, especially Jason Peters, who is presently our best player. It probably isn't close. 2) Our 1st round corner is a star. 3) Hardy is not a criminal. 4) Poz comes back and plays to form. I think that R.Rich was right about this kid. 5) Butler keps progressing. This is freaking huge. 6) Duke Preston is cut. I don't care if he is replaced by a udfa. He is a bad football player. 7) Stroud likes it here, stays healthy, and plays well. He is a badass. 8) McCargo becomes a good, steady player. 9) Parrish doesn't get broken in half. 10) Someone can be a good TE. This is a HUGE reach. Last but far from least, Trent Edwards needs to be even almost as good as I think that he will be. It is a ton to ask or expect from a kid with 9 starts, but I really do see great things in this kid. How perfect would it be for us if he shows enough to unite the crowd at OBD, let alone TSW? I hated this draft, but I will never give up. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if all ten of those things happen then we are one lucky team. As long as James Hardy IS NOT a bust, then we will be in the playoffs!
Flbillsfan#1 Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Why all the hate for Jauron? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely interested. He's given me reason for hope since he's gotten here, as it feels like he's turned this franchise around from the hellhole it was when he got here. It feels as if the ball is rolling in the right direction. I am putting the blame for last years offense or lack thereof on Jauron.
BillsVet Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Why all the hate for Jauron? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely interested. He's given me reason for hope since he's gotten here, as it feels like he's turned this franchise around from the hellhole it was when he got here. It feels as if the ball is rolling in the right direction. Well, lets see: Career 50-67 record (.430 winning percentage) 7 of his 8 seasons have reflected teams ranked 20th or below in points scored. 5 of his 8 seasons have reflected teams ranked 20th or below in points allowed 0-1 career playoff record DJ did not turn this franchise around. His first year here was a 7-9 result. His second year was a 7-9 result. He's had a lot of control on draft day, and that was more evident this year than ever. He knows he must produce this season or he'll be coaching the Swampscott Pop Warner team next season. The ball is rolling in the right direction? It should be, he's had 32 games, 8 more preseason contests, 26 draft picks, three free agencies, and enters a third offseason of of mini-camps, OTA's, and training camp. The ball should be going downhill by now.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Why all the hate for Jauron? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely interested. He's given me reason for hope since he's gotten here, as it feels like he's turned this franchise around from the hellhole it was when he got here. It feels as if the ball is rolling in the right direction. Because if you don't win with QBs by the name of Jim Miller, Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Kordell Stewart, and JP Losman, you obviously suck as a head coach. Remember all those playoff wins and Superbowls the homeless guy that coaches NE had before Brady???
Tcali Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 Because if you don't win with QBs by the name of Jim Miller, Shane Matthews, Cade McNown, Kordell Stewart, and JP Losman, you obviously suck as a head coach. Remember all those playoff wins and Superbowls the homeless guy that coaches NE had before Brady??? Cute attempt....but Belicheat was a helluva coach going 11-5 with a crap Clevekand organization and was the reason Parcells won anything. However...YES--Jauron has had garbage to work with at QB.I have my doubts --seeing how anal rentative the guy is in his coaching style---but I woulda said the same thing about Coughlin not too long ago.We'll see.
Búfalo Blanco Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 A coach should have ample time to steer a team... and in the case of talent and the Bills, just treading water is a challenge... Being a small market team, the Bills can't always keep the talent they need to make a breakthrough... Therefore, a coach like Jauron has to stockpile whereever he can to keep talent at a position... and fend off the injuries that very well may happen... Anyone who saw a team, especially its defense, starting 4th stringers and street free agents by the middle of the season realizes that Jauron pulled off a small miracle keeping the team competitive... and actually winning 7 games while staying in the playoff hunt into December... and that was only the regime's 2nd year, fellas... after having to come in with new schemes and fix the personnel mess TD left behind, I like the direction this regime is taking.... There has been an influx of draft talent, they have re-signed a solid core of players that could have easily walked, and brought in some solid free agent additions... Now, if Wilson fires Jauron after the season, all of that goes down the toilet.... Another coach with another philosophy comes in and starts molding the team in his image.... cutting some of Jauron's additions, letting some go in FA, and starting over... Then, as usual, we are back to just treading water again... Really, some of these posts don't surprise me... Some Bills fans have a reputation of knee-jerk reactions... finding a scapegoat to blame time and again, and running said scapegoat out of town... believing that the cancer he "caused" all by himself will now be cured... Jim Kelly's last year was a perfect example... Forget what the guy had already done for the team... as soon as it looked like he wasn't all-world anymore, he was booed, heckled, and made a scapegoat... This does not reflect Bills fans as a majority... But unfortunately thanks to the few, we have all gained the whiney Red Sox reputation, blaming our team's problems on the newest sacrificial lamb, feeding him to the wolves, and then finding the next altar sacrifice when things aren't perfect... But go ahead, fellas... Tell me how wrong I am and that your sh** doesn't stink...
Mikie2times Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 A coach should have ample time to steer a team... and in the case of talent and the Bills, just treading water is a challenge... Being a small market team, the Bills can't always keep the talent they need to make a breakthrough... Therefore, a coach like Jauron has to stockpile whereever he can to keep talent at a position... and fend off the injuries that very well may happen... Anyone who saw a team, especially its defense, starting 4th stringers and street free agents by the middle of the season realizes that Jauron pulled off a small miracle keeping the team competitive... and actually winning 7 games while staying in the playoff hunt into December... and that was only the regime's 2nd year, fellas... after having to come in with new schemes and fix the personnel mess TD left behind, I like the direction this regime is taking.... There has been an influx of draft talent, they have re-signed a solid core of players that could have easily walked, and brought in some solid free agent additions... Now, if Wilson fires Jauron after the season, all of that goes down the toilet.... Another coach with another philosophy comes in and starts molding the team in his image.... cutting some of Jauron's additions, letting some go in FA, and starting over... Then, as usual, we are back to just treading water again... Really, some of these posts don't surprise me... Some Bills fans have a reputation of knee-jerk reactions... finding a scapegoat to blame time and again, and running said scapegoat out of town... believing that the cancer he "caused" all by himself will now be cured... Jim Kelly's last year was a perfect example... Forget what the guy had already done for the team... as soon as it looked like he wasn't all-world anymore, he was booed, heckled, and made a scapegoat... This does not reflect Bills fans as a majority... But unfortunately thanks to the few, we have all gained the whiney Red Sox reputation, blaming our team's problems on the newest sacrificial lamb, feeding him to the wolves, and then finding the next altar sacrifice when things aren't perfect... But go ahead, fellas... Tell me how wrong I am and that your sh** doesn't stink... Ding.
Ball'n Posted April 30, 2008 Posted April 30, 2008 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/ins...&id=3372132 This has us as the second wild card team it seems.
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