John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 it got a little old arguing about why we drafted a RB, or 3 CB's, or if DJ should be fired after this year...or talking about the draft period. Does it hurt to look ahead? Give me something thats not so ridiculous to talk about now that our passing game is obviously solidified. Actually otis I was trying to make a joke..... no offense meant What do we do if Hardy is a bust? Well.....we will obviously move on and find somebody else. But think about this for a minute......IF HE IS A BUST....then we can thank the lucky stars that the bills stuck to their guns and their draft board and did not move up to get him....making him a less expensive pick. And on top of that sometimes it is the trade that you do not make (there are reports coming out that the bills tried to move up) what if they were actually trying to move up for Hardy....the giants refused.....and we got him with the 2nd. This would have cost us even more cap. BUT its ok because he isn't going to be a bust.....he is going to be one of the greatest Wideouts the bills have every had and a perfect compliment to Evans.
Fan in San Diego Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 wow dude, get a grip. That was his point to you by being sarcastic.
Fan in San Diego Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 I have a bad feeling this guy isnt going to translate into a legimate NFL WR. I wouldnt mind sitting here today with Devin Thomas and Malcom Kelley on the roster...with the high probabilty of WR busts the skins hedged their bet.... This post is the epitome of the mopes around here.
Dwight Drane Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Question Hardy over guys like Thomas, Sweed and Kelly is valid because of Hardy's build. The only guy out there who has Hardy's build and has had any success is Burress, and it took him 4 years to get going. Moss is somewhat similar, but he is more compact. Hardy is a "gimmick" pick. Much like Roscoe Parrish was a "gimmick" pick. I have a good feeling that he will be a nice target in the red zone, but what about the other 80% of the plays? The Bills are sticking themselves out there on this pick, so in that sense I have confidence in it. He did put up big numbers in the Big 10. Then again, so did Mike Hart and he almost didn't get drafted. We needed some immediate help with offensive targets, and we walked away with a basketball shooting forward, and nice white boy from Kansas. There is room for concern.
otisly00 Posted April 28, 2008 Author Posted April 28, 2008 Question Hardy over guys like Thomas, Sweed and Kelly is valid because of Hardy's build. The only guy out there who has Hardy's build and has had any success is Burress, and it took him 4 years to get going. Moss is somewhat similar, but he is more compact. Hardy is a "gimmick" pick. Much like Roscoe Parrish was a "gimmick" pick. I have a good feeling that he will be a nice target in the red zone, but what about the other 80% of the plays? The Bills are sticking themselves out there on this pick, so in that sense I have confidence in it. He did put up big numbers in the Big 10. Then again, so did Mike Hart and he almost didn't get drafted. We needed some immediate help with offensive targets, and we walked away with a basketball shooting forward, and nice white boy from Kansas. There is room for concern. I agree completely. All along i thought we needed a big possession receiver (or a big competent TE), which i thought a guy like Sweed would fill the role better. Yes, Hardy is tall, yes Hardy can jump, but in all the tape/all i've read, it seems he is more of a deep ball, jump ball type of reciever. We still need that big moulds-type of guy (in his prime) that can muscle up with a CB and get those 10 yrd balls across the middle. Maybe i'm off base and Hardy is this guy...but doesnt seem to be.
Lurker Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 All along i thought we needed a big possession receiver (or a big competent TE), which i thought a guy like Sweed would fill the role better. Yes, Hardy is tall, yes Hardy can jump, but in all the tape/all i've read, it seems he is more of a deep ball, jump ball type of reciever. We still need that big moulds-type of guy (in his prime) that can muscle up with a CB and get those 10 yrd balls across the middle. Maybe i'm off base and Hardy is this guy...but doesnt seem to be. Huh. Of all the Sweed highlights I saw, he didn't come across as that kind of player either. Usually, he was lined up against some stumble bum CB who got his feet tangled up and let him blow by, or gave up a ten yard cushion. In contrast, the Hardy highlights showed DBs with good coverage getting out-jumped/muscled for the catch.
Grouse89 Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 I agree completely. All along i thought we needed a big possession receiver (or a big competent TE), which i thought a guy like Sweed would fill the role better. Yes, Hardy is tall, yes Hardy can jump, but in all the tape/all i've read, it seems he is more of a deep ball, jump ball type of reciever. We still need that big moulds-type of guy (in his prime) that can muscle up with a CB and get those 10 yrd balls across the middle. Maybe i'm off base and Hardy is this guy...but doesnt seem to be. Of course you agree with him he said the same thing you did. If he said you were wrong or if he disagreed you would B word about people insulting you. The fact of the matter is that since you have 1 or 2 people who agree with your point of view, and 20+ who disagree (or more) leads me to believe maybe you should rethink your opinion a little...or not w/e doesn't matter.
otisly00 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Posted April 29, 2008 Of course you agree with him he said the same thing you did. If he said you were wrong or if he disagreed you would B word about people insulting you. The fact of the matter is that since you have 1 or 2 people who agree with your point of view, and 20+ who disagree (or more) leads me to believe maybe you should rethink your opinion a little...or not w/e doesn't matter. nice one buddy. go re read our posts and tell me its the same thing. I can find more than 1 or 2 people who have questions on Hardy and his impact on the Bills. Lastly, you seem to be the same little brat i see lurking around the message boards trying to instigate - keep em coming. Miss you. - BFF
John from Riverside Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 If Hardy was a "big for nothing" that just got drafted on his gawdy measurables then I would be a little worried..... But that isn't the case....he has an insane amount of touchdowns in the college To me he seems like the perfect fit.....he isn't slow but can be a "move the chains" guy while taking an occasional deep shot at evans when we are passing...... And in the end zone he has a distinct advantage because of his size and leaping ability.....how many times did we see good teams use a big te in a basketball lob in the end zone for a touchdown. Keep in mind....we are not asking for him to be the savior of the team.....Marshawn Lynch has that covered. We just need to throw there and there to keep defenses honest and the extra defender out of the box and then keep them guessing in the red zone. I bet our QB is just beaming right now......look who he has to throw to and hand the ball off to.
Captain Hindsight Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 If Hardy was a "big for nothing" that just got drafted on his gawdy measurables then I would be a little worried..... But that isn't the case....he has an insane amount of touchdowns in the college To me he seems like the perfect fit.....he isn't slow but can be a "move the chains" guy while taking an occasional deep shot at evans when we are passing...... And in the end zone he has a distinct advantage because of his size and leaping ability.....how many times did we see good teams use a big te in a basketball lob in the end zone for a touchdown. Keep in mind....we are not asking for him to be the savior of the team..... Gibran Hamdan has that covered. We just need to throw there and there to keep defenses honest and the extra defender out of the box and then keep them guessing in the red zone. I bet our QB is just beaming right now......look who he has to throw to and hand the ball off to. Fixed it
truth on hold Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 I have a bad feeling this guy isnt going to translate into a legimate NFL WR. I wouldnt mind sitting here today with Devin Thomas and Malcom Kelley on the roster...with the high probabilty of WR busts the skins hedged their bet.... it's true that a lot of this team's 08' season rides on this young man's performance. if he doesn't pan out (and I have no reason to think he'll be a bust), then Bills will struggle to finish around .500 again. you can have all the defense in the world but if your offense can't score and keep the defense off the field, doesn't mean a hill of beans
Steely Dan Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 it's true that a lot of this team's 08' season rides on this young man's performance. if he doesn't pan out (and I have no reason to think he'll be a bust), then Bills will struggle to finish around .500 again. you can have all the defense in the world but if your offense can't score and keep the defense off the field, doesn't mean a hill of beans You're avatar has to go.
otisly00 Posted April 29, 2008 Author Posted April 29, 2008 If Hardy was a "big for nothing" that just got drafted on his gawdy measurables then I would be a little worried..... But that isn't the case....he has an insane amount of touchdowns in the college To me he seems like the perfect fit.....he isn't slow but can be a "move the chains" guy while taking an occasional deep shot at evans when we are passing...... And in the end zone he has a distinct advantage because of his size and leaping ability.....how many times did we see good teams use a big te in a basketball lob in the end zone for a touchdown. Keep in mind....we are not asking for him to be the savior of the team.....Marshawn Lynch has that covered. We just need to throw there and there to keep defenses honest and the extra defender out of the box and then keep them guessing in the red zone. I bet our QB is just beaming right now......look who he has to throw to and hand the ball off to. good points. i know its impossible to get a tall leaper that can stretch the field and can also go across the middle and muscle up....unless your name is TO!! I'm happy with Hardy....hope he pans out and we sign Evans and dont have to worry about WR for a couple years...
Ozymandius Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 I don't see why it's even a question. If Hardy busts, then we're in trouble and we have to try to find another big WR. It's the same thing that would happen with any other team that has a bust at a position of need. You experience the consequences, and then you try again. Ashton Youboty busts, so you draft Leodis McKelvin.
Steely Dan Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 What if a massive gamma ray burst occurs? The Bills are doomed! December 21, 2012 good points. i know its impossible to get a tall leaper that can stretch the field and can also go across the middle and muscle up....unless your name is TO!! I'm happy with Hardy....hope he pans out and we sign Evans and dont have to worry about WR for a couple years... Make that a few years!
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 What if a massive gamma ray burst occurs? The Bills are doomed! LOL!
KD in CA Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 ....then we hope that Jeff Samarokidosiklaczjla quits baseball and comes to play for the Bills.
Ramius Posted April 29, 2008 Posted April 29, 2008 ....then we hope that Jeff Samarokidosiklaczjla quits baseball and comes to play for the Bills. But what if he busts? then we're really really screwed!
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