Fingon Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 We have defended, and will continue to defend, the Cincinnati Bengals for their stance regarding receiver Chad Johnson’s desire to be traded. We do so because the best way to keep other players from trying to pull the same routine in the future is to not cave in to Chad now. Another prudent strategy to achieve the same end, however, would be to refrain from bringing in more players who might be inclined to misbehave in the future. In this regard, we can’t support the Bengals’ tactics. As a league source opined with respect to several of the team’s 2008 draft picks, the Bengals “are up to their old tricks.” The most glaring selection was Jason Shirley, a defensive tackle from Fresno State. Shirley was ultimately kicked off the team in 2007 after a series of incidents, including a suspension for conduct detrimental to the team and a suspension for a DUI arrest. The last straw was an arrest for driving with a suspended license. The source said that Shirley was off most teams’ draft boards. Per the source, teams also had concerns about Auburn defensive tackle Pat Sims and Kansas offensive tackle Anthony Collins. A Google search revealed that neither player has had any trouble with the law, however. It has been explained to us in the past that the Bengals will take a player like Shirley not because the team doesn’t know about his off-field troubles but because the team’s lack of a full-blown scouting department makes the Bengals more likely to pick a player who had the talent to otherwise be drafted much earlier. Put simply, the Bengals will be more inclined to take the player who generally is regarded as highly talented later in the draft because they lack confidence in their ability to pick a guy who isn’t generally recognized as having the physical talent to play in the NFL. http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/
DrDawkinstein Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 i loled when they picked another linebacker. first, because they stole the guy NE wanted (we'll talk about trading down later) and second because they seem to pick one in the first couple rounds every year. more so than we pick DBs
Fingon Posted April 27, 2008 Author Posted April 27, 2008 It just blows my mind how an NFL team does not have a scouting department.
/dev/null Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Haven't made the playoffs since 1999 We aren't the Bengals...yet
Fingon Posted April 27, 2008 Author Posted April 27, 2008 Haven't made the playoffs since 1999 We aren't the Bengals...yet We are building a team that has a very good chance at going to the playoffs next near, unlike the bengals. I guess it's time for them to pony up and spend money on scouts.
elcrusho Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 It just blows my mind how an NFL team does not have a scouting department. Maybe they're going to go to Video Scouting... Don't we know a team tha.....oh wait
/dev/null Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 It just blows my mind how an NFL team does not have a scouting department. Why would they need a scouting department? Coach would know who to draft if he read Intarweb message boards
lets_go_bills Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Not to mention the Bengals picking Jerome Simpson in round two. And picking him OVER Limas Sweed, Malcolm Kelly, and DeSean Jackson.
Buftex Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 About a week or so, while discussing the prospect of the Bengals trading Chad Johnson, one of the talking heads (I believe it was Mortenson, but I have listened to way too many people the last two weeks) on ESPN radio said that Mike Brown (team president/GM) actually told him that he felt like having a certain amount of controversy surrounding the team was "a good thing". It almost sounds like Brown has some secret fantasy about recreating his sorry franchise into a model of the outlaw Raiders of the 1970's. I feel sorry for Bengals fans, because they are good fans. They seemed on the verge of turning the page on their inept past a few years ago, but are returning to form. For all the crap about what a jerk Chad Johnson is, the core argument he has with the franchise is a valid one. He sees himself as a very talented player, stuck with a franchise that will never make the moves to be a real contender. It is the same thing that prompted Takeo Spikes to B word his way off the team...we like him though.... When you think about it, the Bills and Bengals have more in common than they have differences. Two long standing AFC teams that have had really long rough stretches, strung together by flashes of greatness. And, to top it off, thanks to Tom Donohoe, they both have what have to be considered amongst the most hideous uniforms in the leauge... The one big differenc is (and why I am glad I was born a Bills fan, rather than a Bengals fan) when the Bills screw up, there is generally sound decision making behind their mistakes. Both owners are not known for being very free spenders, but the Bengals take this to the ultmate depths...
Pete Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Not to mention the Bengals picking Jerome Simpson in round two. And picking him OVER Limas Sweed, Malcolm Kelly, and DeSean Jackson. That was one of the biggest reach's in the draft
Willis990 Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 i loled when they picked another linebacker. first, because they stole the guy NE wanted (we'll talk about trading down later) and second because they seem to pick one in the first couple rounds every year. more so than we pick DBs Rivers does not fit the Patriots version of the 3-4.
dave mcbride Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 We have defended, and will continue to defend, the Cincinnati Bengals for their stance regarding receiver Chad Johnson’s desire to be traded. We do so because the best way to keep other players from trying to pull the same routine in the future is to not cave in to Chad now. Another prudent strategy to achieve the same end, however, would be to refrain from bringing in more players who might be inclined to misbehave in the future. In this regard, we can’t support the Bengals’ tactics. As a league source opined with respect to several of the team’s 2008 draft picks, the Bengals “are up to their old tricks.” The most glaring selection was Jason Shirley, a defensive tackle from Fresno State. Shirley was ultimately kicked off the team in 2007 after a series of incidents, including a suspension for conduct detrimental to the team and a suspension for a DUI arrest. The last straw was an arrest for driving with a suspended license. The source said that Shirley was off most teams’ draft boards. Per the source, teams also had concerns about Auburn defensive tackle Pat Sims and Kansas offensive tackle Anthony Collins. A Google search revealed that neither player has had any trouble with the law, however. It has been explained to us in the past that the Bengals will take a player like Shirley not because the team doesn’t know about his off-field troubles but because the team’s lack of a full-blown scouting department makes the Bengals more likely to pick a player who had the talent to otherwise be drafted much earlier. Put simply, the Bengals will be more inclined to take the player who generally is regarded as highly talented later in the draft because they lack confidence in their ability to pick a guy who isn’t generally recognized as having the physical talent to play in the NFL. http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/ a) The Bengals have made the playoffs in the last 8 years. The Bills haven't. b) The best way to judge a draft is to wait four or five years, not the day of the second round. And particularly if you've never seen more than one or two of the guys drafted play in more than a bowl game.
keepthefaith Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 We are building a team that has a very good chance at going to the playoffs next near, unlike the bengals. I guess it's time for them to pony up and spend money on scouts. That and a new head coach. Next coach could have some good talent to work with.
ans4e64 Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 i loled when they picked another linebacker. first, because they stole the guy NE wanted (we'll talk about trading down later) and second because they seem to pick one in the first couple rounds every year. more so than we pick DBs Do you honestly think the Pats didnt know Cincy would pick Rivers? They have no LBers. You've got to be an idiot wrapped in a moron to not see Cincy going with Rivers.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Do you honestly think the Pats didnt know Cincy would pick Rivers? They have no LBers. You've got to be an idiot wrapped in a moron to not see Cincy going with Rivers. u mad bro?
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 im sorry, i wont laugh at the patriots anymore since it seems to upset you guys...
Ramius Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Rivers does not fit the Patriots version of the 3-4. bull sh--. the pats* tried to be cute by trading down and getting an extra pick, and ended up getting their dick caught in the zipper when cincy took Rivers. I'm not saying Mayo wont be good, because i liked the kid and i think he'll end up doing well. but dont for a minute pretend that missing rivers was all part of their* plan.
Big Turk Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 That was one of the biggest reach's in the draft Almost as big a reach as the Rams taking Avery as the first WR in the draft...
ax4782 Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 We are building a team that has a very good chance at going to the playoffs next near, unlike the bengals. I guess it's time for them to pony up and spend money on scouts. And people on this board think Ralph is cheap? Yesh. I know their a small market team but man, not having a scouting department might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Tcali Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Glad we aren't the Bengals??? And glad we are the Bills???--must be our sterling ownership and management over the past 10 years...and over 22 out of the 38 years before that.
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