4th Round Selection 2: Derek Fine TE Kansas

[stuckincincy]

Yeah you did just Fine

 

 

hahaha

 

Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine"...

 

[Bob in STL]

After such a promising first 4 picks and our TE was there.

 

 

Who was our TE?

[Stl Bills]

No More GAYhawks please

[In space no one can hear]

This pick certainly isn't inspiring

 

Don't you dare tell me everything will be fine!

[Chicken Wing '73]

Check out who he is bowling over in this one...

 

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I thought that guy played for the Armidillos.

[Risin]

I agree you may be looking at our future fullback

 

 

What about the scouting reports that call him a "sub-par blocker" ?

[Huuuge Bills]

DAMNIT!!! I was wishing that I would have heard of every player we drafted today! But because I don't know who they are, I'm just going to get mad for NO REASON!!

 

Me too, Marv's old!

 

That'll show em.

[DanInSouthBuffalo]

Reminds me of Derek Schouman who is already on the Bills roster. I thought they might address line depth. Oh well........

[Peter]

According to the reports, he has great hands and runs precise routes.

 

I also recall that he was very productive for KU.

[Oneonta Buffalo Fan]

I does kind of remind me of Chris Cooley.

[K-Gun10]

Why Not Owen Schmitt?

[JPicc2114]

What about the scouting reports that call him a "sub-par blocker" ?

 

 

 

lets see one

[Bob in STL]

I'm not upset, but I think the people who are feel we are drafting projected 7th rounders in the 4th.

 

Correct ... People are reading the draft projections. Both of our 4th rounders were projected as 7th or UDFA.

 

You never know? I trust Modrak and the coaches more than the people who write the draft marketing data.

[Steely Dan]

Sorry but the last 2 picks have sucked (both should have been 7th-UDFA) with the DE pick not that bad

 

I agree 100% I'm mystified by this draft so far. Every pick after Leodis McKelvin has some problem associated with them that makes them a questionable pick IMO.

 

TE | (6'2", 251, 4.849) | KANSAS

Scouts Grade: 35

 

Flags: (S: SPEED) Player lacks ideal speed at position

 

Strengths: Hybrid capable of lining up at both the tight end and fullback position. Quick off the ball and able to avoid contact working against press coverage. Does a good job of selling the run and gets into the flats quickly off play action. Smooth, runs clean routes and is at best getting open underneath. Has a wide frame and does a nice job of using his body to shield defenders from the ball. Possesses an understanding of how to attack defenders and set up breaks. Appears to read defenses well and does a nice job of finding open areas working against zone coverage. Gives great effort as an in-line blocker and is relentless once in position. Takes sound angles to blocks, flashes the ability to adjust to the moving target in space and can get into position at the second level. Is as effective lead blocking from the backfield as he is lined up at tight end and is somewhat versatile.

 

Weaknesses: Lacks top-end speed and isn't going to stretch the middle of the field. Lacks the overall strength to consistently sustain blocks, loses balance at times and is seen on the ground a lot. Does not have great body control and struggles to adjust to passes thrown outside frame.

 

Overall: Fine signed with Kansas in 2002 but didn't enroll because of an injury. After redshirting the 2003 season, he played in all 35 of the Jayhawks' games (19 starts) over the next three years (2004-06'), collecting 52 receptions for 615 yards (11.8 average) and six touchdowns. Fine played in all 13 games (10 starts) as a senior, hauling in 46 catches for 394 yards (8.6 average) and four touchdowns. He also was a productive contributor on special teams coverage units during his career (11 tackles, 10 assists). Bottom line: Fine is versatile enough to provide depth for a team that likes to use H-Backs but he doesn't have prototypical speed or power so he projects as a seventh round pick.

 

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This draft is a C so far in my opinion.

[Beerball]

Maybe he'll turn out to be a fine blocking back for Marshawn?

 

Well, that' fine as long as there aren't off field issues, he's really walking a fine line. Drafted where he was a fine could really hurt his pocketbook.

[Oneonta Buffalo Fan]

I agree 100% I'm mystified by this draft so far. Every pick after Leodis McKelvin has some problem associated with them that makes them a questionable pick IMO.

 

TE | (6'2", 251, 4.849) | KANSAS

Scouts Grade: 35

 

Flags: (S: SPEED) Player lacks ideal speed at position

 

Strengths: Hybrid capable of lining up at both the tight end and fullback position. Quick off the ball and able to avoid contact working against press coverage. Does a good job of selling the run and gets into the flats quickly off play action. Smooth, runs clean routes and is at best getting open underneath. Has a wide frame and does a nice job of using his body to shield defenders from the ball. Possesses an understanding of how to attack defenders and set up breaks. Appears to read defenses well and does a nice job of finding open areas working against zone coverage. Gives great effort as an in-line blocker and is relentless once in position. Takes sound angles to blocks, flashes the ability to adjust to the moving target in space and can get into position at the second level. Is as effective lead blocking from the backfield as he is lined up at tight end and is somewhat versatile.

 

Weaknesses: Lacks top-end speed and isn't going to stretch the middle of the field. Lacks the overall strength to consistently sustain blocks, loses balance at times and is seen on the ground a lot. Does not have great body control and struggles to adjust to passes thrown outside frame.

 

Overall: Fine signed with Kansas in 2002 but didn't enroll because of an injury. After redshirting the 2003 season, he played in all 35 of the Jayhawks' games (19 starts) over the next three years (2004-06'), collecting 52 receptions for 615 yards (11.8 average) and six touchdowns. Fine played in all 13 games (10 starts) as a senior, hauling in 46 catches for 394 yards (8.6 average) and four touchdowns. He also was a productive contributor on special teams coverage units during his career (11 tackles, 10 assists). Bottom line: Fine is versatile enough to provide depth for a team that likes to use H-Backs but he doesn't have prototypical speed or power so he projects as a seventh round pick.

 

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This draft is a C so far in my opinion.

Still going with an A- or B+. We've addressed our needs and I think Fine will be a fine young player for us.

[Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail]

I think a lot of this is special teams driven. You have to remember, we lost Wire, Haggen, Stamer and Aiken. We need to replenish our special teams. I think it's a good thing that the team is conscious of this.

[Marv Levy]

He's just the kind of player Steve Fairchild looks for

 

Please don't say that last name on this board anymore, please

[Mike formerly from Florida]

I think a lot of this is special teams driven. You have to remember, we lost Wire, Haggen, Stamer and Aiken. We need to replenish our special teams. I think it's a good thing that the team is conscious of this.

 

 

Very good point.

[OCinBuffalo]

I think a lot of this is special teams driven. You have to remember, we lost Wire, Haggen, Stamer and Aiken. We need to replenish our special teams. I think it's a good thing that the team is conscious of this.

Yeah, those guys were the core of why we have had the best or top 3 special teams units for the last few years. If we want to have any chance against the Pats*, Chargers, etc. we have to beat them in that phase of the game. And Moorman has to have a better year....

 

That's 4 guys to replace too, not just 1 or 2