PromoTheRobot Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Goodell's mind is open to further Pats* penalties Goodell said Thursday he has no idea what Walsh, who spent six years as a New England employee, has to offer than what the league already knows: Belichick had been taping defensive signals since first becoming Patriots coach in 2000. He noted, however, that the league, which destroyed the tapes from the Jets game after reviewing them, had spoken to 50 people in connection with the case and that Walsh was the only one who asked for legal protection. I may have missed it, but did the NFL ever reveal that Bill Belichick was taping the def. signals of other teams since the 2000 season? This article also makes it sound like if there is a tape of the Rams walk-through, whether the Pats claim Walsh acted alone or not, the NFL is coming down on Billy Beli-cheat. God I hope they ban his a$$ for life, but I'll be shocked if he gets anything more than a slap on the wrist. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Goodell's mind is open to further Pats* penalties Goodell said Thursday he has no idea what Walsh, who spent six years as a New England employee, has to offer than what the league already knows: Belichick had been taping defensive signals since first becoming Patriots coach in 2000. He noted, however, that the league, which destroyed the tapes from the Jets game after reviewing them, had spoken to 50 people in connection with the case and that Walsh was the only one who asked for legal protection. I may have missed it, but did the NFL ever reveal that Bill Belichick was taping the def. signals of other teams since the 2000 season? This article also makes it sound like if there is a tape of the Rams walk-through, whether the Pats claim Walsh acted alone or not, the NFL is coming down on Billy Beli-cheat. God I hope they ban his a$$ for life, but I'll be shocked if he gets anything more than a slap on the wrist. PTR It came out during the SuperBowl week statements about Walsh. The way Goodell and co tried to sell it, that was supposedly something that was part of the story when it first came out, but no news source had that in their articles back in September... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Goodell's mind is open to further Pats* penalties Goodell said Thursday he has no idea what Walsh, who spent six years as a New England employee, has to offer than what the league already knows: Belichick had been taping defensive signals since first becoming Patriots coach in 2000. He noted, however, that the league, which destroyed the tapes from the Jets game after reviewing them, had spoken to 50 people in connection with the case and that Walsh was the only one who asked for legal protection. I may have missed it, but did the NFL ever reveal that Bill Belichick was taping the def. signals of other teams since the 2000 season? This article also makes it sound like if there is a tape of the Rams walk-through, whether the Pats claim Walsh acted alone or not, the NFL is coming down on Billy Beli-cheat. God I hope they ban his a$$ for life, but I'll be shocked if he gets anything more than a slap on the wrist. PTR PTR, i thought, and may be wrong, that yes the league was aware he had been taping all the time. His defence was that that he thought the rule only specified that the tape could not be used in game. That is what Belicheck refered to the as the "mis-interpreation of the rule". Problem is the NFL had clarifed it before the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 PTR, i thought, and may be wrong, that yes the league was aware he had been taping all the time. His defence was that that he thought the rule only specified that the tape could not be used in game. That is what Belicheck refered to the as the "mis-interpreation of the rule". Problem is the NFL had clarifed it before the season My recollection was that the Pats claimed they only justs started taping def. signals in this past season. And that the tapes only contained video of 2007. I do not remember them saying this was going on for 7 years. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I think this is based on the infamous interpretation of the rules that Belicheat has hid behind. The rule has been on the books for a long time, so there's the pretense for 'since 2000'. It's hard to say if he actually believed in his interpretation or is that simply double talk to protect his butt. While it's only a legal blogger's opinion, here's some law professor speak about hoodie man's interpretation. Of course the comments have the most entertainment value... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I think this is based on the infamous interpretation of the rules that Belicheat has hid behind. The rule has been on the books for a long time, so there's the pretense for 'since 2000'. It's hard to say if he actually believed in his interpretation or is that simply double talk to protect his butt. While it's only a legal blogger's opinion, here's some law professor speak about hoodie man's interpretation. Of course the comments have the most entertainment value... Repeat after me: I meesinterpreted the rrrrule. I meesinterpreted the rrrrule. I meesinterpreted the rrrrule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Goodell's mind is open to further Pats* penalties Goodell said Thursday he has no idea what Walsh, who spent six years as a New England employee, has to offer than what the league already knows: Belichick had been taping defensive signals since first becoming Patriots coach in 2000. He noted, however, that the league, which destroyed the tapes from the Jets game after reviewing them, had spoken to 50 people in connection with the case and that Walsh was the only one who asked for legal protection. I may have missed it, but did the NFL ever reveal that Bill Belichick was taping the def. signals of other teams since the 2000 season? This article also makes it sound like if there is a tape of the Rams walk-through, whether the Pats claim Walsh acted alone or not, the NFL is coming down on Billy Beli-cheat. God I hope they ban his a$$ for life, but I'll be shocked if he gets anything more than a slap on the wrist. PTR PTR, i thought, and may be wrong, that yes the league was aware he had been taping all the time. His defence was that that he thought the rule only specified that the tape could not be used in game. That is what Belicheck refered to the as the "mis-interpreation of the rule". Problem is the NFL had clarifed it before the season I think it was quasi legal for awhile and nobody really said anything about it and other teams were doing it too. The league cracked down with a memo, IIRC, at the beginning of 2006. That's where the "interpretation" thing came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I think it was quasi legal for awhile and nobody really said anything about it and other teams were doing it too. The league cracked down with a memo, IIRC, at the beginning of 2006. That's where the "interpretation" thing came from. The NFL press releases indicated that the rule stated "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game" and that all video shooting locations for club coaching purposes "must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead." So the word is that Belicheat interpreted this as you could video tape in the category of for club coaching purposes in certain locations during the game and they could video tape in other places as long as it wasn't for use during the game. Then Ray Anderson (the NFL exec VP of Football Ops) sent a memo at the beginning of the season that, “videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game.” This could be interpreted as they can videotape another team's signals but they can't do it from these locations, or anywhere else that is "accessible during the game." Yeah, it makes zero sense that his guy could standing there taping Jet's defensive signals and not be in violation of the rule, but that's their story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 My recollection was that the Pats claimed they only justs started taping def. signals in this past season. And that the tapes only contained video of 2007. I do not remember them saying this was going on for 7 years. PTR I think it was more than just 2007 since here's a picture of the NFL destroying the tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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