TempyNC Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 From Gil Brandt "Kelly ran 40s of 4.63 and 4.69, and if the surface was slow, then why did Adrian Peterson run a 4.39 on the same surface last year?"
CherryCoke Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 can we all just take a step back and think about how long .3 of a second really is. anyone who runs a 4-5 second 40 is fast. People get so caught up in those fractions of seconds. ehh whatever. If they like him. take him!!
Chilly Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 No situation? Not even if he fell to the 3rd round?
BeastMode54 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 There is absolutely NO WAY he falls to the 3rd. I still think he might be picked in the 1st....2nd at the latest
Chilly Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 There is absolutely NO WAY he falls to the 3rd. I still think he might be picked in the 1st....2nd at the latest I don't think he's going to fall to the 3rd round either, but if he did, I'd take him and not look back.
Chilly Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Of course, that's a no brainer Which was my point, to say that you'd take him under no circumstances is silly.
ax4782 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I think Buffalo takes Devin Thomas at #11, so don't "worry" about a Kelly pick. That being said, Kelly dropped one pass over the course of the last two seasons. One pass. He has PHENOMENAL HANDS and is a real presence in the red zone. Yes, he has some problems with his knees, but I don't think that will really be much of an issue. The fact is, if we take Thomas in the first, and Malcolm Kelly is sitting there when we pick again at 42, I say pick him. Particularly if we move back in the first round and are able to get Devin Thomas at, say #19 and we get an additional second round pick. Imagine what a tandem of Evans, Thomas and Kelly could do to opposing defenses.
Pete Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I strongly disagree. I would be glad to see Kelly end up on the Bills
John from Riverside Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I am worried about the meltdown he had with the coaches after what happened at his first run day.... Yeah....somebody screwed up....yeah....it should have been handled better.....BUT To lose it with everybody watching like that.....these young guys are going to have to face a lot of challenges and adversity at the Pro Level....everybody is a star from somewhere.....how is he going to react?
BeastMode54 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I think Buffalo takes Devin Thomas at #11, so don't "worry" about a Kelly pick. That being said, Kelly dropped one pass over the course of the last two seasons. One pass. He has PHENOMENAL HANDS and is a real presence in the red zone. Yes, he has some problems with his knees, but I don't think that will really be much of an issue. The fact is, if we take Thomas in the first, and Malcolm Kelly is sitting there when we pick again at 42, I say pick him. Particularly if we move back in the first round and are able to get Devin Thomas at, say #19 and we get an additional second round pick. Imagine what a tandem of Evans, Thomas and Kelly could do to opposing defenses. I don't know what it is, but I really don't feel good about Thomas. I've haven't seen the game film, which our staff has, but he is more than a worry to be a bust. Had he stayed and played at MSU for another season and then repeated his performance, I would be ecstatic, but that isn't the case.
Beerball Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Which was my point, to say that you'd take him under no circumstances is silly. First intelligent thing you've said in 3.5 weeks. Congratulations! If I may make a blanket statement, it is that blanket statements are stuupid.
ax4782 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I don't know what it is, but I really don't feel good about Thomas. I've haven't seen the game film, which our staff has, but he is more than a worry to be a bust. Had he stayed and played at MSU for another season and then repeated his performance, I would be ecstatic, but that isn't the case. I think the last thing you said is a concern for a lot of people. Of course, if he stayed at MSU another year and repeated those numbers, he's a top five pick and Buffalo doesn't get him. Let me reassure you about what I've seen from Thomas. I live in Detroit and had an opportunity to watch either all twelve or eleven of MSUs twelve games this year. Devin Thomas was easily the best player on that team. He has the size and speed to create mismatches all over the field. More importantly, he doesn't drop very many passes and he fights for the ball. He goes up after jump balls and he isn't afraid to go over the middle. I loved watching this kid play on saturdays, and I'd really like to see him playing for the Bills on Sundays. He has a lot of upside. That being said, I also like Sweed, and James Hardy. I think all three of these guys are going to be ballers in the NFL. Whichever of the three that the Bills end up with, I'll be happy, as long as we get one of them.
marauderswr80 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 While you all make good points about Malcolm Kelly........... Proof is in the pudding, look at the game film. Thats where I base what I think of him. I was one of the few that bashed him, but I kept looking at the game tape of him and that my friends dont lie.
Pete Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I am worried about the meltdown he had with the coaches after what happened at his first run day.... Yeah....somebody screwed up....yeah....it should have been handled better.....BUT To lose it with everybody watching like that.....these young guys are going to have to face a lot of challenges and adversity at the Pro Level....everybody is a star from somewhere.....how is he going to react? it was heat of the moment frustration immediately after he heard his time. I like intensity of a player! I got sick of the "aw shucks" look every time Drew threw an Int. I have no problems if a player plays with a fire- in fact I appreciate it. Kelly has said all the right things ever since and he seems like a high character guy to me
marauderswr80 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 The one thing we all know we will get from kelly is determination to prove the entire league wrong about him..... Think about it.
Chilly Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 First intelligent thing you've said in 3.5 weeks. Congratulations! If I may make a blanket statement, it is that blanket statements are stuupid. Can I have an award?
Nanker Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Malcolm Kelly has a piss-poor attitude IMHO. He's got a lot of maturing to do. I'd rather not see that done in a Bills uniform - no matter how ugly they are. Then again, if the price is right...
lets_go_bills Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Too much emphasis is placed on 40 times. While they have some meaning, it is not the be-all-to-end-all IMO. My understanding is that teams take into account the field surface as well. I didn't expect him to run a fast 40 anyway, he's 6'4" and 220lbs. He projects as a possession receiver anyway. Many great footballers have run poor 40s and had great careers. The thing I'm most concerned with are his legs, particularily his knees. If he falls in the draft, which he most likely will, he's gonna enter the league with a huge chip on his shoulder to prove his nay-sayers wrong.
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 From Gil Brandt "Kelly ran 40s of 4.63 and 4.69, and if the surface was slow, then why did Adrian Peterson run a 4.39 on the same surface last year?" Because Adrian Peterson is ridiculous...and Kelly is slow...
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