John from Riverside Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 Not that I want this to happen (I am throwing the salt as I speak) but What if something WERE to happen to our number one.......would you want a veteran (regardless of his flaws) in Losman or a Hamdan type QB?
Pete Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 No brainer. exactly. All over WNY mental midgets are bitching
Bill from NYC Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 exactly. All over WNY mental midgets are bitching But Pete, why are they mental midgets for thinking that JP is not a good quarterback? Also, I only take the statements by Brandon at face value. If he changes his mind and accepts a decent offer (assuming he gets one), what is our recourse? We could yell, "liar liar pants on fire," but he might not care. Remember, JP is the one who asked for a trade. He doesn't want to play in Buffalo. I am just saying that I don't see this as a done deal.
eball Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 There is no -- zero, zilch, nada -- reason for Brandon to reveal his true intentions to the media at a friggin' pre-draft luncheon. His statements were intended to do two things, and two things only: stroke Losman's ego, and drive up JP's perceived value among 31 other GMs. As usual, much ado about nothing.
col_forbin Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 What he really really means. I want to trade JP but I have to say nice things publicly because I won't give him away for nothing. As soon as I state I want to trade him his value drops in the marketplace. Plus I run the risk of completely alienating him if I can't put a good deal together and end up hanging onto him. By saying this at this time I keep all my options open and protect JPs value in the marketplace. You never show your hand, if he came out and said he wnted to trade him I be angry because there's no reason to say it. It's similar to what Pac-Man just did to Tennessee. he said he won't apply for reinstatement until AFTER he's traded. Well since teams aren't sure if he WILL be reinstated that undermines his trade value to Tennessee since teams are less willing to risk a better draft pick on an uncertain situation. By saying that he effective reduced his chances of being traded this off-season because Tennessee can let him sit on the suspended list for free and they won't give him away for nothing either because it doesn't hurt them at all to keep him where he is. Pac Man doesn't want to play n Tenn but by showing his hand he f'ed it up for himself, once again proving the abyssal depth of his ignorance. Agreed.....exactly what i was thinking. Let's make it look like we actually want this guy, and maybe his value will increase. We will also have better conditions when someones #1 or #2 go down at camp.
Pete Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 But Pete, why are they mental midgets for thinking that JP is not a good quarterback? Also, I only take the statements by Brandon at face value. If he changes his mind and accepts a decent offer (assuming he gets one), what is our recourse? We could yell, "liar liar pants on fire," but he might not care. Remember, JP is the one who asked for a trade. He doesn't want to play in Buffalo. I am just saying that I don't see this as a done deal. They are not mental midgets for thinking JP is not a good QB. Whether JP is good or not has yet to be determined. He has been jerked around by the coaching staff and lambasted by Bills "fans". I would be very frustrated too if I was JP. He does not need to accept an offer- he is under contract for one more year-and it is an affordable contract at that. That is why it would be foolish to trade him. You need two experienced QBs in this day and age. I look at having both JP and Trent as a plus. JP knows the system, the players, and the organization. He has been great in the community. Why run him out of town? And for what? A later round draft pick? Do we really want to waste a draft pick on a backup QB (an area of strength now). We need DT, DE, WR, TE, S, CB, LB, FB, OL- why create more holes? That seems asinine to me.
Albany,n.y. Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 JP is going nowhere until we have his replacement lined up-that means a VETERAN backup, not Hamden, not a rookie. With just about all the decent veteran backups gone, JP stays unless the Bills work out a trade for a vet or a vet gets released and agrees to terms before JP is traded. A draft choice is meaningless without a backup to go with it. About the only way I see JP leaving is if he's traded for a QB with NFL starting experience, and not some way over the hill type like Trent Dilfer.
Curse Of Rusty Jones Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 He will be there....gives me another chance to be proven RIGHT!!!!
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 No matter what the team says, I have this feeling Losman will be a distraction this season.
keepthefaith Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 No matter what the team says, I have this feeling Losman will be a distraction this season. I believe he'll be the opening day starter.
billsfanincuse Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I believe he'll be the opening day starter. Honestly would not surprise me. Not sure it will happen but i wouldnt be surprsied
SABURZFAN Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 WOW!!!!!! this thread got a lot of posts deleted. i stated it once and i'll state it again, if Faking a Roughin thinks i'm ExpertOpinion, Kantorski, or SuperiorKnowledge, you are 1000% wrong...... ...... and you can take THAT to the bank.
apuszczalowski Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 WOW!!!!!! this thread got a lot of posts deleted. i stated it once and i'll state it again, if Faking a Roughin thinks i'm ExpertOpinion, Kantorski, or SuperiorKnowledge, you are 1000% wrong...... ...... and you can take THAT to the bank. Deluca?
Kelly the Dog Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 WOW!!!!!! this thread got a lot of posts deleted. i stated it once and i'll state it again, if Faking a Roughin thinks i'm ExpertOpinion, Kantorski, or SuperiorKnowledge, you are 1000% wrong...... ...... and you can take THAT to the bank. I don't want to put words in his mouth but what I think he means is that if you're not actually the ventriloquist, you're the ventriloquist's dummy.
Fan in Chicago Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I don't want to put words in his mouth but what I think he means is that if you're not actually the ventriloquist, you're the ventriloquist's dummy. Waitacottonpickin minute here, boy. Didcha just call 'im a dummy ? And words are not what I hope someone would shove into said ventriloquist's mouth. That said, life is peaceful with him on ignore. Is it that or did he get booted ?
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted April 17, 2008 Author Posted April 17, 2008 I don't want to put words in his mouth but what I think he means is that if you're not actually the ventriloquist, you're the ventriloquist's dummy. you got it bro
Curse Of Rusty Jones Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I told ya so! More Proof that the betterment of the team is secondary, and being right and satisfying one's ego takes the cake everytime.
SABURZFAN Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 I don't want to put words in his mouth but what I think he means is that if you're not actually the ventriloquist, you're the ventriloquist's dummy. are you speaking for Faking then? then you must be his dummy. you got it bro or are you the dummy? it's so hard to tell who's sitting on who's lap in this case. i take it that you both swap turns with each other.
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted April 18, 2008 Author Posted April 18, 2008 it's so hard to tell who's sitting on who's lap in this case. i take it that you both swap turns with each other. but it's sooooo easy to see who is the troll
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