millbank Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share Posted April 10, 2008 I agree with you. One sometimes does things not because they have to , but because it is right to do it. In this case giving this Bag Lady (imo) half of reward is the right thing to do. she is a crazy bag lady who keeps everything she finds, including old license plates. You expect her to make an honest attempt to find the owner? It amounts to theft??? I can guarantee you if i was in that position I would go find the lady and give her some more money. Is she "owed" the money? No. Would it be the right thing to do to give her more than $80? I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 she is a crazy bag lady who keeps everything she finds, including old license plates. You expect her to make an honest attempt to find the owner? It amounts to theft??? I can guarantee you if i was in that position I would go find the lady and give her some more money. Is she "owed" the money? No. Would it be the right thing to do to give her more than $80? I think so. The bottom line is that the dumb Canadian bag lady would drink the reward in about 15 minutes while the dumb Canadian deceptive loser would gamble it away in Vegas in 15 minutes. Unless you own stock in MGM or Smirnoff, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 she is a crazy bag lady who keeps everything she finds, including old license plates. You expect her to make an honest attempt to find the owner? It amounts to theft??? I can guarantee you if i was in that position I would go find the lady and give her some more money. Is she "owed" the money? No. Would it be the right thing to do to give her more than $80? I think so. So, people should be rewarded for 5-fingering something that isn't theirs, putting it in their shopping cart and wheeling away? Oftentimes, people forget things in places and come back a few minutes later when they realize this; if she had just left it there this never sees ink. She may indeed be crazy, and like I said, I hope she accepts whatever help that many organizations provide if you just ask, but I don't think her conduct should be set as a public example that deserves a $ reward for honesty. If the circumstances were just a tiny bit different --- if a cop had found her with the violin rather than an average citizen --- do you think she would get or deserve the reward $? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Who says she really is a bag lady. I believe it was a couple years ago I saw a news report because people were furious that one of the areas biggest "panhandler/baglady" wasn't even poor or crazy. She would walk around the City looking and acting crazy collecting change and money from people, then go back to her condo with leather couches and a big screen TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 but I don't think her conduct should be set as a public example that deserves a $ reward for honesty. a reward has nothing to do with honesty, that's why there is $ invloved. Nobody said anything about the bag lady doing the right thing, she's just a bag lady getting by. If the circumstances were just a tiny bit different --- if a cop had found her with the violin rather than an average citizen --- do you think she would get or deserve the reward $? it sounds to me like you are arguing the merits of a reward in general. that is a completely different topic. Who says she really is a bag lady. that happens a lot, but i doubt the cons go to the extent of wandering around with shopping carts all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 that happens a lot, but i doubt the cons go to the extent of wandering around with shopping carts all day. If they were really trying to be a convincing con they do, but I doubt they would be so quick to sell it for as cheap as she did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Who says she really is a bag lady. I believe it was a couple years ago I saw a news report because people were furious that one of the areas biggest "panhandler/baglady" wasn't even poor or crazy. She would walk around the City looking and acting crazy collecting change and money from people, then go back to her condo with leather couches and a big screen TV Hey come on, we don't make fun of your career path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Hey come on, we don't make fun of your career path. Some days I wonder if I would be better off living the life of a scam artist and just rip people off to make money. Working at a real job, and not doing anything illegal hasn't given me much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Who says she really is a bag lady. I believe it was a couple years ago I saw a news report because people were furious that one of the areas biggest "panhandler/baglady" wasn't even poor or crazy. She would walk around the City looking and acting crazy collecting change and money from people, then go back to her condo with leather couches and a big screen TV Maybe she got the idea from . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 Some Opinions From Others Michelle Waldron said, "I'm not the kind of person who is greedy. I'd have shared the reward money with the lady. That's the way I am." Wayne Wulff is planning to use the reward money for a trip to Vegas; you can eat pretty well at the casino buffets, if you have the stomach for it. Jessica Bonney works at PARC. She said, "The owner of the violin said the woman who found it should have contacted him. What kind of reality does he live in? Does he think she has a radio or watches TV?" I'm also guessing she doesn't have the money to spend tracking down guys who lose their stuff. Diane Lane is a PARC volunteer. "I think it sucks. The guy knew about the frigging reward. In my opinion, he ripped her off. He's well dressed. He's educated. He screwed her." In fairness, Wayne Wulff is an animal rescue worker and he is probably not wealthy. But the question lingers like a bad smell: Was he wrong to withhold the information about the reward? Heads at PARC nodded. Diane said, "I'd have split the money with her, 50-50, minus the $35. But I can't see him going to find her and giving her more money. I can't see it. Why didn't he bring her to the guy who owned the violin?" She might not have trusted Wulff. She might have been afraid. She might have made the swap simply to get rid of him. She is the real saviour of the violin: if not for her, it might have been found and smashed, or stashed, or sold, or pawned. Or kept at home, if the finder had a house. Hilary McWatch, a PARC worker said, "A lady pushing a shopping cart? The money could have made a difference to her." What kind of difference? Michelle said, "I'd buy food. My fridge is sort of empty." It does not get any more basic than that. Or maybe it does. Later that day I met a guy named Ken who was panhandling on Spadina. Homeless, no fridge, no hesitation: "The lady should get half." What difference would $500 make to him? "It would get me off the street for a while. I'd get a room, clean up, shower; then I'd go back on the streets for another couple of nights, and then I'd get a room again. You don't sleep good on the street." How good do they sleep in Vegas? It says here that Wayne and Jim should go back and find the woman with the shopping cart. Wayne should give her half the money. Jim should play for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 It's amazing how many stories I've read over the years of people losing their very expensive violins. My wife plays and has one worth only $1,000 and she guards it with her life. It happened again - this time there's a Buffalo connection... Link - $4 million Stradavarius violin left in NYC cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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