Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 You are funny...or sad. I can't seem to figure out which side of that fine line you reside on. Well I hope it's the former...or what the hell else am I doing here because you and the far right Bush is good, war is good, guns are my Gawd, minorities are taking over folk here constantly crack me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 You are such a parody. Keep it, rollin'. Sure why not? It was great during that pre war build up on this board circa 03 to hear you meekly straddle the fence between which way the wind was blowing...while all the time offering only mild opinions that maybe we should...oops my skirt is in the wind...maybe we shouldn't. Actually I don't recall you saying anything remotely tangible during that period at all. But what else is new. Funny you portray yourself now as "oh I was never for that invasion" Ah bullschit! Anyone who was against the war back then and made their opinions unmistakenably known were thrown off this board...and now the pigeons have come home to roost and you still straddle the fence. Absolutely classic! Hey Libertariatard..Bob Barr is running so you can no longer be a closeted repub/con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Funny how you believe the exact opposite of reality. The Factor has more viewers, including me sometimes, than all the other cable news shows COMBINED, I don't know about the Times, but the Tribune Review is also well-read by many in that town, regardless of whether I think it's not a good paper. That is the reality The fact is that the filthy rich LIBERALS such as George Soros and Harold Ickes fund raising is the only reason Air America hasn't completely failed. They have never made a profit. In fact, their name isn't even accurate, its should be Air San Franciso, LA, and NYC, and a couple of places down south, because those are the only place you will find them. They have failed financially only to be bailed out by Soros 3 TIMES. Talk about corporate welfare. "Yes, let's proceed with an asset buyout and a re-branding of our crappy product, followed by another traunch of funding from our wonderful liberal investors. Once complete we will re-launch the newly formed organization and..." it will still suck the sweat off a dead man's balls. That is the reality. So what you are complaining about is essentially the polar opposite of what is actually happening. Time to shake yourself loose of that delusion. Look I actually used to listen/watch Air America, in an effort to balance out O'Reilly, but I stopped. Not because I didn't agree, but because they spent most of their time saying the same bumper sticker phrases over and over every day. It was worse than WGR commercials. Even with Limbaugh, as silly as he can be, he explores the point and I have half a chance of learning something, if nothing else WHY he says what he says. I listened to Al Franken's show for 5 months and I think he actually said something that could be looked at as a rational argument maybe 10 times. The rest was gay sound effects and the lowest form of gotcha games = it reminded my of riding the bus in 7th grade. Yeah yeah Soros, Bill O gets great ratings (though not the demographic desired by advertisers), Air America sux (it does sez the Bishop), and Al Franken can sometimes be rational which I find hard to agree with. What I need from you is any info on cool dive kind of bars in Philly since I'll be there for the Mets Phillies series next week. Haven't been in that town since I attended a Bills Iggles game at the Vet over a decade ago. I'm staying in the center city or whatever they call it there. Is the Septa subway safe late at night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 You still haven't answered the question of if Wright's comments can't be used against him because they were taken out of context in what context can they be put to where they're ok? Instead it you go back to "Oh yeah, well what about this.......?" Good job. Please just admit that you've got nothin' And three more hysterical posts later....he still hasn't. Not that that's surprising. If anything, it's expected. Plus it's fun to watch him try to change the subject 50 times in a row because he can't back up his own points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 And three more hysterical posts later....he still hasn't. Not that that's surprising. If anything, it's expected. Plus it's fun to watch him try to change the subject 50 times in a row because he can't back up his own points. Obama made his speech and people can take from it what they will, and that includes you and the chef. Why are you still prattling on? Everybody else, save the mouth breather Fox News viewers, has moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Obama made his speech and people can take from it what they will, and that includes you and the chef. Why are you still prattling on? Everybody else, save the mouth breather Fox News viewers, has moved on. Since when do you speak for "everybody"? I asked you to explain how Rev. Wright's statements were acceptable "in context" (as you insist they are). Since then you've managed to talk about everything but that. I didn't ask you about Obama's speech nor do I see how "people can take from that what they will" has anything to do with what I asked you. So, again, please explain the proper context for Rev. Wright's quotes where they aren't just the rantings of a paranoid bigot. And while you're at it, explain why you don't give the same benefit of the doubt to conservatives. Take all the time you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Sure why not? It was great during that pre war build up on this board circa 03 to hear you meekly straddle the fence between which way the wind was blowing...while all the time offering only mild opinions that maybe we should...oops my skirt is in the wind...maybe we shouldn't. Actually I don't recall you saying anything remotely tangible during that period at all. But what else is new. Funny you portray yourself now as "oh I was never for that invasion" Ah bullschit! Anyone who was against the war back then and made their opinions unmistakenably known were thrown off this board...and now the pigeons have come home to roost and you still straddle the fence. Absolutely classic! Hey Libertariatard..Bob Barr is running so you can no longer be a closeted repub/con. Yeah, that's right...it was all a great neo-con conspiracy to purge PPP of anti-war elements. Are you really that retarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Yeah, that's right...it was all a great neo-con conspiracy to purge PPP of anti-war elements. Are you really that retarded? You may be deranged but I'm pretty sure you don't have alzies. Selective memory maybe..... You know as well as I do how psychotically jingoistic this board was back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Since when do you speak for "everybody"? I asked you to explain how Rev. Wright's statements were acceptable "in context" (as you insist they are). Since then you've managed to talk about everything but that. I didn't ask you about Obama's speech nor do I see how "people can take from that what they will" has anything to do with what I asked you. So, again, please explain the proper context for Rev. Wright's quotes where they aren't just the rantings of a paranoid bigot. And while you're at it, explain why you don't give the same benefit of the doubt to conservatives. Take all the time you need. Like I said, everybody else except those who rely on Fox news and mouth breathers have moved on. My apologies to mouth breathers. Conservatives have certainly been a picked on lot haven't they. Migosh it seems nothing ever goes their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Like I said, everybody else except those who rely on Fox news and mouth breathers have moved on. My apologies to mouth breathers. Conservatives have certainly been a picked on lot haven't they. Migosh it seems nothing ever goes their way. And like I said, since when do you speak for "everybody"? Still don't want to try to put Rev. Wright's statements "in context"? Wow, how shocking. C'mon, I'm sure everybody here would love to hear you explain how Rev. Wright's statements were "out of context" and also why you don't give conservative statements the same "out of context" treatment in similar situations. Don't rush your response this time. I want you to really concentrate and try to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 And like I said, since when do you speak for "everybody"? Still don't want to try to put Rev. Wright's statements "in context"? Wow, how shocking. C'mon, I'm sure everybody here would love to hear you explain how Rev. Wright's statements were "out of context" and also why you don't give conservative statements the same "out of context" treatment in similar situations. Don't rush your response this time. I want you to really concentrate and try to answer. It's late and I have to sleep. Try this you mongoloid http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-...2%80%9D-sermon/ Wright's controversial sermon's are all on u tube in their entirety. Watch them and if you still have any questions I'll explain it to you patiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 It's late and I have to sleep. Try this you mongoloid http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-...2%80%9D-sermon/ Wright's controversial sermon's are all on u tube in their entirety. Watch them and if you still have any questions I'll explain it to you patiently. Linking to someone else's blog won't save you (nor will calling someone a mongoloid). I want you to explain why you, Bishop Hedd, think Rev. Wright's statements are acceptable once they're put "in context." I've watched the YouTube videos and read the sermons and, if anything, they make him look worse. You're the one who said they were only offensive "out of context" so now you have to back up your statement as to why. I've spent an entire day asking you to "explain patiently" and all you've done is change the subject repeatedly. BTW, I obviously don't care if it's late and you have to sleep. I asked you to take your time, do your best to focus, and try to explain what you wrote earlier. So, again, explain why Rev. Wright's statements are alright "in context" and why similar controversial statements from conservatives don't get the same treatment from you. Don't link to someone's blog. Don't change the subject. And try not to resort to name-calling. And, again, take your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Sure why not? It was great during that pre war build up on this board circa 03 to hear you meekly straddle the fence between which way the wind was blowing...while all the time offering only mild opinions that maybe we should...oops my skirt is in the wind...maybe we shouldn't. Actually I don't recall you saying anything remotely tangible during that period at all. But what else is new. Funny you portray yourself now as "oh I was never for that invasion" There was never a single time when I said we should invade Iraq. The closest anyone can put anything on me in that vein is "post invasion" when I stated "we won't know the outcome of this endeavor for at least 20 years". A statement which I stand by today. I drew on my military experience to state the operational "taking" of the country would be pretty easy and the aftermath would be a mess. All of which came true. Compare that to the sloganeering (BushBad!) and stupidity of those who aren't here anymore and you come up with "brownshirts and meekness". Let's all pretend that's credible. Ah bullschit! Anyone who was against the war back then and made their opinions unmistakenably known were thrown off this board...and now the pigeons have come home to roost and you still straddle the fence. Absolutely classic! You mean like RichinOhio? Keep sticking up for the members of your circle jerk and pretending they aren't here anymore because of their political opinions. Meanwhile, Molson and you regularly post your factless drivel and parrot your slogans over and over again. Yep, they're gone because they were lefties. Keep wondering why I think you're a parody. Hey Libertariatard..Bob Barr is running so you can no longer be a closeted repub/con. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat your crap, it's never going to be true. Simply because I know your entire take on politics is retarded and completely unrealistic doesn't make me identify with what is "supposedly" the opposite philosophy. That's because I live in reality and understand that both the Democrat AND Republican parties are NOT what is best for this country and DO NOT in any way practice what they preach. I'll not apologize for agreeing with some of the things Republicans CAMPAIGN on because philosophically they are much more sound than the "guaranteed to fail" socialism of their opposition. But you keep holding onto that idealism while each takes their turn driving the bus off the cliff. When it's over, I'll be here to say "I told you so". Now get back to not supporting your statements and being a hypocrite. The rest of the community needs someone to punish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 You may be deranged but I'm pretty sure you don't have alzies. Selective memory maybe..... You know as well as I do how psychotically jingoistic this board was back then. How come I wasn't banned for being anti-war then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 How come I wasn't banned for being anti-war then? Maybe because you stated concerns about the pending war in a rational way using facts available to you at the time, instead of screaming no war because you didn't know where Iraq was on the map nor cling to a single facet of over a dozen rationalizations for the war? Do I win a hot pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Hedd Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Linking to someone else's blog won't save you (nor will calling someone a mongoloid). I want you to explain why you, Bishop Hedd, think Rev. Wright's statements are acceptable once they're put "in context." I've watched the YouTube videos and read the sermons and, if anything, they make him look worse. You're the one who said they were only offensive "out of context" so now you have to back up your statement as to why. I've spent an entire day asking you to "explain patiently" and all you've done is change the subject repeatedly. BTW, I obviously don't care if it's late and you have to sleep. I asked you to take your time, do your best to focus, and try to explain what you wrote earlier. So, again, explain why Rev. Wright's statements are alright "in context" and why similar controversial statements from conservatives don't get the same treatment from you. Don't link to someone's blog. Don't change the subject. And try not to resort to name-calling. And, again, take your time. What segment of the sermon in particular is your problem. Narrow it down and I'll comment. I'm not going to make a blanket comment on the entire sermon just as you appear to have made a blanket dismissal based on outrage from a thirty second sound byte on your hero Billo's show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Yeah yeah Soros, Bill O gets great ratings (though not the demographic desired by advertisers), Air America sux (it does sez the Bishop), and Al Franken can sometimes be rational which I find hard to agree with. What I need from you is any info on cool dive kind of bars in Philly since I'll be there for the Mets Phillies series next week. Haven't been in that town since I attended a Bills Iggles game at the Vet over a decade ago. I'm staying in the center city or whatever they call it there. Is the Septa subway safe late at night? Ok. First off, if you are staying in Center City, the best way to get to the game is the Broad Street line(subway) = $2.50 each way and you are there in 20 minutes at the most. Broad Street and Market Street form a + that divides Center city(essentially a box). Broad goes N/S. Market, E/W. Depending on where you are staying, you may want to catch the Market Line to City Hall(the intersection of the +), and then get on Broad street train to Pattison = the end of the line. When you emerge from the escalator, you won't be able to miss the field, because it will be right in front of you. The train stops running around midnight(might be later). It is plenty safe. There is a decent bar at the field, and it's not too expensive = $4 bottles(IIRC). Back in Center City. There are a ton of great bars, dive and otherwise. I would suggest the following based on price and good places to hang out in general: In the middle of the city, i.e. city hall, dive or at least hard drinking bars: 1. A little expensive but the best beer selection in the country = Monks @ 16th and Spruce. (On the way back on the train, get off @ the Walnut or the Lombard stop, in each case you have to walk 2 blocks south, or north respectively, and 2 blocks west) 2. Real dive bar and full of Dbag liberals like yourself you should get along fine, cheap Guiness = Fergie's @ 12th and Sansom (On the way back on the train, get off @ the Walnut stop, one block north and almost 3 blocks east) 3. If you are looking for more of a sports bar = Fox and Hound @ 15th and Spruce (same as Monks just walk 1 block west instead of 2) 4. Another cool place kinda sports bar but a little classier(lots of women) and hands down the best bar service I have ever seen = Irish Pub @ 20th and Walnut (get off @ Walnut an walk 5 blocks west) 5. If you want to add some historical significance to getting wasted, as in the oldest continually operating bar in Philly(since 1860. Prohibition? what's that?) and a real dive = McGillans @ 13th and Sansom-->just a little north of Sansom, actually on an alley called Drury or Downey or something like that, begins with a D. (same as Fergie's excpet 2 blocks east and a little north and back down the alley west a bit) Every one of those have some kind of food as well. If you are staying more towards Old City(2nd-5th street) then I suggest you go to 2nd and South or 2nd and Market. There are too many good places to name, Plough and Stars at 2nd and Market and Kildare's or Artful Dodger at 2nd and South are just a few. This is a good one: There is a Johnny Cash bar = real dive = that primarily serves cans of beer. You can get yourself a fine Genny Cream ale there as well as the Beast, PBR and everything else you drank in college/high school. It's easy to miss as it's a walk-down bar. It's on 3rd South of Market, in the middle of the block on the left hand side from Market. I always forget the name, but it's something to do with Johnny Cash or one of his songs. Of course, from 9th to 2nd on South Street is what it is = when people say partying on South Street, that's what they mean. There are all kinds of bars and taverns from nice to utter sh!tholes. If you don't like a place, just walk out and head 20 feet down the road to the next one. No place there is worth paying a cover charge. Finally, if you want to see where the Founding Fathers supposedly went after they signed the Declaration of Independence and proceeded to get hammered, I think they still have the bar bill = The City Tavern @ 2nd and Walnut. It's not much of a bar and is quite nice, but it's kinda cool to hang out where the country was basically founded, in a bar of all places . From what I understand, they spent a lot of time there. The other place to go like that is the Dark Horse on 2nd just up from South, it's supposedly where Ben Franklin used to hang out a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 What segment of the sermon in particular is your problem. Narrow it down and I'll comment. I'm not going to make a blanket comment on the entire sermon just as you appear to have made a blanket dismissal based on outrage from a thirty second sound byte on your hero Billo's show. From the link you provided: This government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal. The truth is they did not even believe that white women were created equal, in creation nor civilization. The government had to pass an amendment to the Constitution to get white women the vote. Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence (Thomas), who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century, handpicked by Daddy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, between Clarence and that stacked court, they are about to un-do Roe vs. Wade, just like they are about to un-do affirmative action. The government lied in its founding documents and the government is still lying today. Governments lie.” The government lied about Pearl Harbor Explaining the "closeted Klan court" should be fun. The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. Governments lie.(Good luck with this one. It's my absolute favorite.) The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America. Naw, naw, naw. Not God Bless America. God Damn America! That’s in the Bible. For killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme.Another gem. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent. Think about this. Think about this. For every one Oprah, a billionaire, you’ve got 5 million blacks that are out of work. For every one Colin Powell, a millionaire, you’ve got 10 million blacks who cannot read. For every one Condi-Skeezer Rice, you’ve got 1 million in prison. For every one Tiger Woods, who needs to get beat at the Masters, with his Cablanasian hips, playing on a course that discriminates against women, God has this way of brining you up short when you get to big for your Cablanasian britches. For every one Tiger Woods, we’ve got 10,000 black kids who will never see a golf course. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.What are Cablanasian hips? How is "Condi-Skeezer" appropriate for church? What do any of these people have to do with the "10 million blacks who cannot read"? Why is Rev. Wright using successful black people as proof that the U.S. government has failed black America? You could also explain how promoting the idea that the U.S. government is holding black people down is healthy or productive in any way. This is all from one sermon (which you linked, apparently in "full context"), but it should keep you busy for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. Wait...what? Did ERA pass when I wasn't looking? Why is Rev. Wright using successful black people as proof that the U.S. government has failed black America? He's not. He's using golf courses. Though one wonders, if Condi-skeezer Rice's success is detrimental to the cause of black America, what does that say for Obama's successful campaign so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 What segment of the sermon in particular is your problem. Narrow it down and I'll comment. I'm not going to make a blanket comment on the entire sermon just as you appear to have made a blanket dismissal based on outrage from a thirty second sound byte on your hero Billo's show. So you accuse him of taking quotes out of context...but won't comment on the context, just specific quotes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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