IUBillsFan Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Disgusted is more like it, that people can't find anything better to do than to make an issue over appearance. They can't make a compelling case for their cause so they attack someone for being fat, or short, or tall...and on it goes. That you don't see anything wrong with judging and condemning people based on their appearance surprises me not at all. 72288[/snapback] I don't think that was the point...The point was was it ok for kerry and edwards to bring the cheany's daughter into the campaign for an issue on gay marriage. If it was then it should be ok to bring edwards wife in for healthcare issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Disgusted is more like it, that people can't find anything better to do than to make an issue over appearance. They can't make a compelling case for their cause so they attack someone for being fat, or short, or tall...and on it goes. That you don't see anything wrong with judging and condemning people based on their appearance surprises me not at all. 72288[/snapback] Michael Moore started it. If that fat, disgusting pig didn't stick his disgusting mug in front of every camera that will photograph him, we probably wouldn't have a good idea of how fat and disgusting people can get. We look at Michael Moore and think "Holy crap...I hope that doesn't happen to our women!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 That you don't see anything wrong with judging and condemning people based on their appearance surprises me not at all. 72288[/snapback] Where did I say I didn't see anything wrong with that. You have a wonderful ability to read peoples minds.......unfortunately you're often times wrong, which makes you look pretty silly. The trait of an angry person. The point, and the ONLY point of my post that you quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I don't think that was the point...The point was was it ok for kerry and edwards to bring the cheany's daughter into the campaign for an issue on gay marriage. If it was then it should be ok to bring edwards wife in for healthcare issues. 72300[/snapback] CHENEY HIMSELF brought his daughter into it last summer! If you bother to read this story, it's in there. He says "Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue that our family is very familiar with. . . . With respect to the question of relationships, my general view is that freedom means freedom for everyone. People . . . ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to." How about that. I'm right, you're wrong. I'm not angry, CJ's just uninformed. And so on. Once Cheney made it part of his platform, it was fair game. And that's the way it goes. He politicized it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Would it have been ok for Bush to point out during his tenure obesity is now a disease and may be covered by Medicare and say now people like the VP candidates wife can now get help with gov't assistance. Would that cross a line? 70390[/snapback] Is the President trying to ammend the constitution so fat people do not have the same rights as skinny people? Not even in the same ball park chief. Go home and think a little harder next time you are on the crapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUBillsFan Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Is the President trying to ammend the constitution so fat people do not have the same rights as skinny people? Not even in the same ball park chief. Go home and think a little harder next time you are on the crapper. 74465[/snapback] Everyone has the same rights now...Gay people have the same rights as straight people...It may take you some time but think about it...A gay man can marry a woman so can a straight one. A gay guy can't marry a man neither can a straight one...It looks like they have the same rights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Everyone has the same rights now...Gay people have the same rights as straight people...It may take you some time but think about it...A gay man can marry a woman so can a straight one. A gay guy can't marry a man neither can a straight one...It looks like they have the same rights... 74711[/snapback] Really? Can any adult marry another adult of their choosing? It looks to me like most people pay only lip service to "freedom" for other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUBillsFan Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Really? Can any adult marry another adult of their choosing? It looks to me like most people pay only lip service to "freedom" for other people. 74726[/snapback] I didn't say that...What I said was right now everyone has the SAME rights...But if you ask the question should people of the same sex be able to marry, sure it doesn't really matter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Really? Can any adult marry another adult of their choosing? It looks to me like most people pay only lip service to "freedom" for other people. 74726[/snapback] I absolutely believe that gays should be able to have the exact same right to marriage as heterosexuals. There is no question about it. However, when that time arrives...and I believe it will come in my lifetime...I certainly hope they realize that if they are allowed the rights of the married, they are also held to the rights of the divorced. It all sounds good until you immediately surrender half of everything you own simply for getting married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Why does it bother people that Lynn Cheney is gay? What is the big deal? Seems like it is bothering people on the right? Why? Get real, accept it. It is not a slight. Let people live their lives they way they see fit. And YES, it would have been okay for Bush to bring up the weight thing. Who cares... Let it all fly. What is with you people and having to say the right thing? PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I absolutely believe that gays should be able to have the exact same right to marriage as heterosexuals. There is no question about it. However, when that time arrives...and I believe it will come in my lifetime...I certainly hope they realize that if they are allowed the rights of the married, they are also held to the rights of the divorced. It all sounds good until you immediately surrender half of everything you own simply for getting married. 74859[/snapback] I think this is your best posting on this board. Believe me, they will be just as sorry as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I think this is your best posting on this board. Believe me, they will be just as sorry as hell. 74915[/snapback] There already is a gay divorce case in the court system - two women. I don't recall all the particulars in terms of which state, etc. but there was a 20-minute piece about it on NPR around the time the San Francisco gay marriage hubbub was taking place. If you're interested you can probably find it in their archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 There already is a gay divorce case in the court system - two women. I don't recall all the particulars in terms of which state, etc. but there was a 20-minute piece about it on NPR around the time the San Francisco gay marriage hubbub was taking place. If you're interested you can probably find it in their archives. great, now I have plans for Friday night! (ok, back to baseball for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I absolutely believe that gays should be able to have the exact same right to marriage as heterosexuals. There is no question about it. However, when that time arrives...and I believe it will come in my lifetime...I certainly hope they realize that if they are allowed the rights of the married, they are also held to the rights of the divorced. It all sounds good until you immediately surrender half of everything you own simply for getting married. 74859[/snapback] As I've stated before, they really need to watch out what they wish for - because they just might get it. The ONLY people who benefit from marriage are the divorce lawyers. The government should stay out of business between adults. People should be allowed to have whoever they want in their hospital rooms and on their medical insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 As I've stated before, they really need to watch out what they wish for - because they just might get it. The ONLY people who benefit from marriage are the divorce lawyers. The government should stay out of business between adults. People should be allowed to have whoever they want in their hospital rooms and on their medical insurance. 75129[/snapback] Are we seeing the softer side of Sears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Are we seeing the softer side of Sears? 75268[/snapback] Not sure what you're asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Not sure what you're asking. 75295[/snapback] He's wondering if you're still filled with Glee............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 He's wondering if you're still filled with Glee............ 75324[/snapback] That directed toward your mirror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 That directed toward your mirror? 75331[/snapback] Nazi.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 I think the term marriage should only be used for religious ceremonies and all government certified ceremonies should be called civil unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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