erikturk Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Was it a dream I had, or wasn't there an IBM commercial that said one day we would be able to access all the NFL plays on our computer - show me video of all the 3 and 19 plays the bills had between 2003-2006 when playing against a team with a better record. - Kind of a Youtube of every down in every game, in all of NFL films history. Wouldn't that be cool?
The Dean Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Was it a dream I had, or wasn't there an IBM commercial that said one day we would be able to access all the NFL plays on our computer - show me video of all the 3 and 19 plays the bills had between 2003-2006 when playing against a team with a better record. - Kind of a Youtube of every down in every game, in all of NFL films history. Wouldn't that be cool? that's actually something worth paying for.
dave mcbride Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 That is pretty sad, but true. I remember when the NFL Network launched (I didn't get it), and immediately, all of the NFL Films programming that ESPN Classic used to show during the offseason disappeared....I was pretty bummed. I remember seeing the Bills team highlight films from 1965, 1966 and 1969...that stuff was priceless to me. Though I was born in 1965, my cognisent Bills memories don't start until around 1973, when everyone was in love with the Juice. I love being able to see footage of those old 1960's teams. Strangely, NFL films never really made much of that stuff available to the public, but I know they have released box set DVD's of the history of the Packers, Cowboys, Steelers, Eagles and Broncos...no Bills yet...sadly, it doesn't sound like there ever will be. Incidently, a good friend ( a huge Bears fan) got the entire 1985 Bears NFL season on DVD (actually it is 15 games from that season, in their entirety, as they were broadcast- like the Bills/Olilers Comeback release), and it is put out by the NFL Network... I have a friend who is a longtime employee at MTV and I asked her a few years back about why they never seem to show any videos, even on MTV2. Wasn't that the entire point of the network? Her response: as a rule, videos were the least watched stuff on MTV. Hence their reliance on absolute crap shows (not that most videos aren't crap, but still ...). The NFL's logic is very similar. They're competing with ESPN. In my opinion, ESPN is a pox upon the American televisual landscape, but it attracts tons of eyeballs (including me occasionally).
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 NFL Films taking shots This is truly sad...NFL Films is why I love the NFL...the Pat Summerall/Tom Brookshier highlights show which featured Facenda and the great music, was a "can't miss" show at my house growing up. I met Steve Sabol in 1995...I asked him why NFL Films didn't market the music more aggressively. He turned to his assistant and said "Get him a tape in the mail tomorrow." The tape arrived within days. Thing is, you can get NFL highlights 24/7...NFL Network is missing a great opportunity in not featuring these old highlights shows...linked article sez people (read 18-24 year olds) don't relate to this type of programing. I hope NFL Films can ride the storm out. That's just sad. NFL Films is one of the best football shows out there. It would be an absolute disgrace to the NFL to see it discontinued.
Dan Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I have a friend who is a longtime employee at MTV and I asked her a few years back about why they never seem to show any videos, even on MTV2. Wasn't that the entire point of the network? Her response: as a rule, videos were the least watched stuff on MTV. Hence their reliance on absolute crap shows (not that most videos aren't crap, but still ...). The NFL's logic is very similar. They're competing with ESPN. In my opinion, ESPN is a pox upon the American televisual landscape, but it attracts tons of eyeballs (including me occasionally). I just don't get that about MTV. So they launch a network that revolutionizes the music industry and becomes hugely popular with an entire generation growing up saying, "I want my MTV!". How did they do that... by showing music videos, nonstop. Yet, now mysteriously, no one wants to watch videos anymore? I don't buy it. And that's the problem with the NFL Network, they shouldn't be competing with ESPN. They should be blazing a different trail and giving viewers something better than ESPN. If I want to watch ESPN, why would I turn on the NFL Network? But, that's a larger problem in corporate America. No one has any balls and they try to copy everyone else, just giving everyone the same old bland product, but at a high profit. A few years ago, NFL Network showed all sorts of classic games. It was one of the things that really got me excited about DirecTV. My father-in-law had it and I was like a junkie watchin those old games. But, in just a couple of years, literally, those games are all but gone.
RLflutie7 Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Was it a dream I had, or wasn't there an IBM commercial that said one day we would be able to access all the NFL plays on our computer - show me video of all the 3 and 19 plays the bills had between 2003-2006 when playing against a team with a better record. - Kind of a Youtube of every down in every game, in all of NFL films history. Wouldn't that be cool? I remember that commercial. I don't think we'll see this on NFL network. This is something we'll see on the computer like you said. For a fee. And I'm fine with that. And then they'll put it on DVDs. And that will be the best selling ones on the computer. This also could fail. I just want NFL to replay more of the old classic games like their Superbowl classic games. And did you notice that the Superbowl Classic games are running against the Arena Football on ESPN. Monday's and Saturdays. They've also showed the Bills-Oilers game last week. And Colts-Pats Championship from the Colts Superbowl year.
RLflutie7 Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I just don't get that about MTV. So they launch a network that revolutionizes the music industry and becomes hugely popular with an entire generation growing up saying, "I want my MTV!". How did they do that... by showing music videos, nonstop. Yet, now mysteriously, no one wants to watch videos anymore? I don't buy it. And that's the problem with the NFL Network, they shouldn't be competing with ESPN. They should be blazing a different trail and giving viewers something better than ESPN. If I want to watch ESPN, why would I turn on the NFL Network? But, that's a larger problem in corporate America. No one has any balls and they try to copy everyone else, just giving everyone the same old bland product, but at a high profit. A few years ago, NFL Network showed all sorts of classic games. It was one of the things that really got me excited about DirecTV. My father-in-law had it and I was like a junkie watchin those old games. But, in just a couple of years, literally, those games are all but gone. I taped all of those classic games from a few years ago. I don't know why they can't replay more now. But it seems they don't want to. They want to get paid for it. See above. I think I would pay for it but I don't think the average person would. It could fail. I have an idea that they could replay all Monday night football games. Start from the first Monday night game and replay them all in order. It could be called "Classic Monday Night". And they could have programming for a long time. But I doubt they would do it. It seems the NFL Network is only about what's happening right now.
The Dean Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I remember that commercial. I don't think we'll see this on NFL network. This is something we'll see on the computer like you said. For a fee. And I'm fine with that. And then they'll put it on DVDs. And that will be the best selling ones on the computer. This also could fail. I just want NFL to replay more of the old classic games like their Superbowl classic games. And did you notice that the Superbowl Classic games are running against the Arena Football on ESPN. Monday's and Saturdays. They've also showed the Bills-Oilers game last week. And Colts-Pats Championship from the Colts Superbowl year. To me, it's would be a successful service, if all of the footage was properly coded and available to be accessed any way the user wanted it, and on the fly. It would be terrific for analysis, coaching, etc. If you could pull up a teams 3rd down plays, this season...then, while watching you see a WR screen, you may immediately want to see all that team's WR screens. Something looks odd about the way they run it, so you decide to look at all the WR screens run this season, to see what's what...you get the picture. Having that kind of access to the video (which should all be digitized by now) would be awesome.
Steely Dan Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I just don't get that about MTV. So they launch a network that revolutionizes the music industry and becomes hugely popular with an entire generation growing up saying, "I want my MTV!". How did they do that... by showing music videos, nonstop. Yet, now mysteriously, no one wants to watch videos anymore? I don't buy it. And that's the problem with the NFL Network, they shouldn't be competing with ESPN. They should be blazing a different trail and giving viewers something better than ESPN. If I want to watch ESPN, why would I turn on the NFL Network? But, that's a larger problem in corporate America. No one has any balls and they try to copy everyone else, just giving everyone the same old bland product, but at a high profit. A few years ago, NFL Network showed all sorts of classic games. It was one of the things that really got me excited about DirecTV. My father-in-law had it and I was like a junkie watchin those old games. But, in just a couple of years, literally, those games are all but gone. Generational interests change. The kids today just don't like videos as much as the other crap programming MTV delivers. Beavis and Butthead were much better than videos but MTV has yet to find something as good as Beavis and Butthead.
Dan Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Generational interests change. The kids today just don't like videos as much as the other crap programming MTV delivers. Beavis and Butthead were much better than videos but MTV has yet to find something as good as Beavis and Butthead. I would disagree with that statement. I never really saw the appeal of that show. But, then again, I've never really liked The Simpsons either. Maybe, I'm just the nut. All I say.. is if MTV wants to show crap shows; that's fine. But they should change their name to CTV.
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