/dev/null Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...r.ap/index.html
Heard of Buffalo Bills Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...r.ap/index.html Well, that didn't sound very optimistic did it?
IDBillzFan Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Well, that didn't sound very optimistic did it? No less optimistic than the article posted on BB.com two or three days ago. In fact, all they did was essentially lift the quotes.
Kelly the Dog Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 No less optimistic than the article posted on BB.com two or three days ago. In fact, all they did was essentially lift the quotes. Actually, they made it sound a lot less optimistic than it was. Pretty shoddy reporting, without doing any actual reporting.
Lori Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 No less optimistic than the article posted on BB.com two or three days ago. In fact, all they did was essentially lift the quotes. That was John Wawrow's AP story. He was at the luncheon/press conference/whatever. More Turner stuff from SI, this time from Don Banks: • Tennessee continues to make the most sense as a trading partner for San Diego if the Chargers wind up moving reserve running back Michael Turner. With both No. 12 Buffalo and No. 16 Green Bay potentially in position to fill their No. 1 running back vacancies in the draft (Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch are the two first-round worthy rushers), the No. 19 Titans are probably waiting to see what develops above them in the first round before they make their best offer for Turner. San Diego A.J. Smith is said to be seeking second and third-round picks for Turner, but would probably settle for a two this year (Tennessee has pick No. 50), and a conditional four next year, which could bump up to a three if Turner hits some statistical milestones for the Titans in 2007. The tricky part to a potential draft-day trade may be Tennessee in advance working out the framework of a new contract with Turner, who is entering the final season of his four-year rookie deal. But Turner seems motivated to become a Titan, and that hurdle could be overcome somewhat quickly if agent Bus Cook and Tennessee's general manager Mike Reinfeldt want to get it done.
plenzmd1 Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 That was John Wawrow's AP story. He was at the luncheon/press conference/whatever. More Turner stuff from SI, this time from Don Banks: I just saw this well, and I would give up the 2 and the 4. However, we have no ideas what his contract demands are, and I really think that is where this deal is being held up.
1billsfan Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 The headline should read..."Chargers unlikely to find another sucker like the Giants" I moved on from my limited interest in Turner weeks ago.
jahnyc Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Pure speculation on my part, but I have a feeling that one of the complexities that Marv was referring to during his press conference is that Turner prefers the Titans over the Bills.
apuszczalowski Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 That was John Wawrow's AP story. He was at the luncheon/press conference/whatever. More Turner stuff from SI, this time from Don Banks: That wrticle from Don Banks has a couple holes in it according to what everyone here is saying. I thought AJ was looking for atleast a 1st? Also, he is not in his final year of his rookie contract, he's a RFA who SD gave a tender too to keep his rights.
Kelly the Dog Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 That wrticle from Don Banks has a couple holes in it according to what everyone here is saying. I thought AJ was looking for atleast a 1st? Also, he is not in his final year of his rookie contract, he's a RFA who SD gave a tender too to keep his rights. Yes and no. First, what AJ is publicly stating is almost surely not what he is privately saying. He's still actually saying in public that he wants a #1 and a #3, but that he will "work with" teams. There have been countless reports that he is willing to take far less, and this is the latest, from Banks, the #2 and the future conditional #3, which is highly likely to be a lot closer to the truth than what AJ is saying. But no one has offered it to him yet. Everyone, the Chargers, Bills, Titans, and perhaps others are still in the middle of the game of chicken and hoping one side caves. Second, it's arguable as to what his contract is, as he hasn't signed the tender yet, so he really is officially in the last year of his rookie contract. But it is immaterial anyway, because no team is going to trade for him without agreeing to an extension.
apuszczalowski Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Yes and no. First, what AJ is publicly stating is almost surely not what he is privately saying. He's still actually saying in public that he wants a #1 and a #3, but that he will "work with" teams. There have been countless reports that he is willing to take far less, and this is the latest, from Banks, the #2 and the future conditional #3, which is highly likely to be a lot closer to the truth than what AJ is saying. But no one has offered it to him yet. Everyone, the Chargers, Bills, Titans, and perhaps others are still in the middle of the game of chicken and hoping one side caves. Second, it's arguable as to what his contract is, as he hasn't signed the tender yet, so he really is officially in the last year of his rookie contract. But it is immaterial anyway, because no team is going to trade for him without agreeing to an extension. He is a RFA which means his contract is up, but because of his age/time in the league, he cannot become a UFA so he is not under contract with anybody, until he signs the tender. right now SD only has the rights to him for this season because he was given a tender as a RFA. There is no contract to extend, unless the tender is signed, so right now a team that gets him would either have to get him to sign the Tender, and then work on an extension, or just come up with a new contract when he is dealt, because that is all SD is dealing away, the right to sign Turner
Kelly the Dog Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 He is a RFA which means his contract is up, but because of his age/time in the league, he cannot become a UFA so he is not under contract with anybody, until he signs the tender. right now SD only has the rights to him for this season because he was given a tender as a RFA. There is no contract to extend, unless the tender is signed, so right now a team that gets him would either have to get him to sign the Tender, and then work on an extension, or just come up with a new contract when he is dealt, because that is all SD is dealing away, the right to sign Turner You're sort of right, albeit it's a semantic argument. Everyone refers to it as Turner "signing an extension". Technically, it is not an extension, it's a new contract. But it really is the last year of his rookie contract because the team still has the rights to him in the final year of that rookie contract. If it were truly over, he would be free to go. The team, not the player, had a choice as to what to tender him for, and pay him, in his last year, which is the one coming up.
apuszczalowski Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 You're sort of right, albeit it's a semantic argument. Everyone refers to it as Turner "signing an extension". Technically, it is not an extension, it's a new contract. But it really is the last year of his rookie contract because the team still has the rights to him in the final year of that rookie contract. If it were truly over, he would be free to go. The team, not the player, had a choice as to what to tender him for, and pay him, in his last year, which is the one coming up. True, if you word it that way, but I doubt the writer at CNNSI meant it like that
Brandon Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 I think the RFA period actually ends today and I'm pretty sure that Turner has to sign the RFA tender. Not that it changes the situation, mind you.
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