molson_golden2002 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Turns out they are trying to stuff the government full of wacky Evangelicals to purify the world. Pat Robertson's law school--think about that for a second!--is turning out these freeks and Bush is placing them in charge of our government departments. Incredible! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7040601799.html Bill Maher has a funny take on this in Salon.com today: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/.../pat_robertson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Just when you thought goldfish couldn't get any crazier... She pased the Bar exam. Better thn all those atheist lawyers out there with no morals at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 Just when you thought goldfish couldn't get any crazier...She pased the Bar exam. Better thn all those atheist lawyers out there with no morals at all. Ya! Good church values! Victims' advocates who dogged the Roman Catholic Church over sex abuse by its clergy have now turned their attention to Southern Baptists. The group is accusing America's largest Protestant denomination of also failing to root out molesters. The Chicago-based Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests — or SNAP — has started a campaign to call attention to alleged sex abuse committed by Southern Baptist ministers and concealed by churches. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/22/...in2503034.shtml A leading Baptists responds: http://www.bpnews.net/BPFirstPerson.asp?ID=25313 The kicker line: "We are not hiding behind anything, except the Bible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Bill Maher has a funny take on this in Salon.com today: http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/.../pat_robertson/ you like Bil Maher That's lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 On a related note, we've all heard about the controversies over promoting actively evangelicalism at the Air Force Academy and seperately at the Coast Guard Academy. I read a piece in the Post yesterday that the Catholic and Jewish chaplains were filing suit at the NIH over discrimination in favor of the evangelicals and an anti-catholic and anti-sematic bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Just when you thought goldfish couldn't get any crazier...She pased the Bar exam. Better thn all those atheist lawyers out there with no morals at all. I assume you mean that it's the atheists who have the morals and the religious lawyers who do not. Ask yourself this: is the population of prisons more or less likely to be religious than the country as a whole? Why do cities in the most religious areas of the country dispoportionately lead the nation in crime, while those in the least religious areas tend to be safer? Why are 70% of the top 10 high-crime states Red states, and 60% of the low-crime states Blue? Why are 3 of the 5 most dangerous cities in the country in the deeply religious state of Texas? You might want to re-examine the relationship between whether a person chooses to live morally and why they do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Turns out they are trying to stuff the government full of wacky Evangelicals to purify the world. No way. Really? I hadn't even noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Why are 3 of the 5 most dangerous cities in the country in the deeply religious state of Texas? Uh, thats not true. http://www.morganquitno.com/cit07pop.htm#25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Uh, thats not true. http://www.morganquitno.com/cit07pop.htm#25 You're right - in fact, Texas barely makes it at all. I was relying on a reference that was either dated or untrue (rtying to figure out which right now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Uh, thats not true. http://www.morganquitno.com/cit07pop.htm#25 Too late, I've already been convinced that religion makes you more violent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 You're right - in fact, Texas barely makes it at all. I was relying on a reference that was either dated or untrue (rtying to figure out which right now). Ok, I found my own numbers. Wikopedia - who normally I'd be as wary of as I would the annual best places to live lists - has what seems to be solidly referenced statistics linked to the FBI reports 2005-06. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States Looking at violent crime per 100,000 among the ten largest cities, we have 1,408 Philadelphia 1,316 Dallas, TX 1,218 Chicago 1,146 Houston, TX 1,107 LA 757 San Francisco 709 Seattle 687 NYC 662 Phoenix 635 San Antonio, TX 529 San Diego 372 San Jose They say that overall Houston is the most dangerous, but it's not clear to me what they are measuring - probably they are factoring in property crime. For states, based on Justice stats from 2004 the number of crimes (violent, property, etc) per 100,000 is given as 5,845 Arizona 5,289 South Carolina 5,193 Washington 5,048 Louisana 5,047 Hawaii 5,035 Texas 5,002 Tennessee 4,930 Oregon 4,891 Florida 4,885 New Mexico : 2,640 New York (#43!) : 1,676 New Hampshire There is also an interesting discussion about the degree to which crime correlates (or doesn't) to income. I would argue that the correlations with religiousity and/or being a Red state are at least as strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Ok, I found my own numbers. Wikopedia - who normally I'd be as wary of as I would the annual best places to live lists - has what seems to be solidly referenced statistics linked to the FBI reports 2005-06. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States Looking at violent crime per 100,000 among the ten largest cities, we have 1,408 Philadelphia 1,316 Dallas, TX 1,218 Chicago 1,146 Houston, TX 1,107 LA 757 San Francisco 709 Seattle 687 NYC 662 Phoenix 635 San Antonio, TX 529 San Diego 372 San Jose They say that overall Houston is the most dangerous, but it's not clear to me what they are measuring - probably they are factoring in property crime. For states, based on Justice stats from 2004 the number of crimes (violent, property, etc) per 100,000 is given as 5,845 Arizona 5,289 South Carolina 5,193 Washington 5,048 Louisana 5,047 Hawaii 5,035 Texas 5,002 Tennessee 4,930 Oregon 4,891 Florida 4,885 New Mexico : 2,640 New York (#43!) : 1,676 New Hampshire There is also an interesting discussion about the degree to which crime correlates (or doesn't) to income. I would argue that the correlations with religiousity and/or being a Red state are at least as strong. Which is, of course, one of the reasons religion actually exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Which is, of course, one of the reasons religion actually exists. Living among criminals or Republicans makes you turn to God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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