molson_golden2002 Posted April 15, 2007 Author Posted April 15, 2007 Because I watch the news and I read the paper. Who am I supposed to believe -- my eyes and ears or a study by this group I've never heard of cited by some ridiculous website that you have access to? The whole study is "There's no liberal media because President Bush is on TV a lot and he's Republican." Genius. You do? But you think they are all idiots? So why do you read and watch them? And perhaps you could post some more pieces of "evidence" of left wing bias like that one you did about super bowl commercials which gave us all a good chuckle. Come now, if you are so sure of this left wing conspiracy in the media, perhaps some more proof would be easy to find?
molson_golden2002 Posted April 15, 2007 Author Posted April 15, 2007 Rush is an entertainer. Anyone that takes what he spews seriously, needs to invigorate their minute intelligence He's a propagandist. And a very good one. I agree that the people who believe him are complete tools, but Dick Cheney does run to him and O'Reilly for interviews. That should tell you a lot about this administration. No wonder the vast majority of Americans don't trust them
molson_golden2002 Posted April 15, 2007 Author Posted April 15, 2007 I stopped reading when it called Bernard Goldberg a conservative. What? You saying he isn't? The guy who wrote the 100 most dangerous Americans and 95 or so of them are liberals? And the other book where he says Conservaties need to stand up for their small government principles? Ya, he's a real moderate!
SilverNRed Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 You do? But you think they are all idiots? So why do you read and watch them?Oh, that's easy. Because I'm confident I can get the information I want and see past whatever spin or slant our fine reporters may want to insert. The same way you're not confident that anyone could ever watch Fox News without becoming completely brainwashed and just meeting someone who likes O'Reilly because he thinks he's fair makes you hysterical. And perhaps you could post some more pieces of "evidence" of left wing bias like that one you did about super bowl commercials which gave us all a good chuckle. Come now, if you are so sure of this left wing conspiracy in the media, perhaps some more proof would be easy to find?First off, who is "us"? You and the imaginary other people on this board who respect you? "Us".... Alright, and here's some stuff from the past couple weeks I found charming: New York Times finds Iraq War vet who wasn't in Iraq TIME magazine reporter completely misrepresents military training A couple years ago I might have started threads about these but it was becoming a full-time job so I just let it go. Here's the Super Bowl thread. I still really like this article. The New York Times actually hired this lunatic and printed this article. Most people wouldn't connect Super Bowl commercials and the Iraq War but the NYT found the one guy who did and gave him a forum. Classic. This article was practically a late Christmas present. And this is still pretty much my favorite thing ever: Had a guy tell me the other day he likes O'Reilly because he's fair. *This rant is now over* Not only is that somehow fodder for a rant, you actually made that the grand finale of a rant. Millions of people watch and listen to O'Reilly every week and running into just one of them wrecks your whole day.
molson_golden2002 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Posted April 16, 2007 Oh, that's easy. Because I'm confident I can get the information I want and see past whatever spin or slant our fine reporters may want to insert. The same way you're not confident that anyone could ever watch Fox News without becoming completely brainwashed and just meeting someone who likes O'Reilly because he thinks he's fair makes you hysterical. First off, who is "us"? You and the imaginary other people on this board who respect you? "Us".... Alright, and here's some stuff from the past couple weeks I found charming: New York Times finds Iraq War vet who wasn't in Iraq TIME magazine reporter completely misrepresents military training A couple years ago I might have started threads about these but it was becoming a full-time job so I just let it go. Here's the Super Bowl thread. I still really like this article. The New York Times actually hired this lunatic and printed this article. Most people wouldn't connect Super Bowl commercials and the Iraq War but the NYT found the one guy who did and gave him a forum. Classic. This article was practically a late Christmas present. And this is still pretty much my favorite thing ever: Not only is that somehow fodder for a rant, you actually made that the grand finale of a rant. Millions of people watch and listen to O'Reilly every week and running into just one of them wrecks your whole day. Oh please, you finding a few examples--with the help of right wing bloggers, or whatever--in the vast media which runs thousands of articles a day is hardley enough to support your conspiracy theory of a left wing media. Oh my! The Times believing a lying soldier? That's proof of a vast conspiracy for sure! My example shooting down that conspiracy theory was 1000 times better, namely, McCain shooting his mouth off that the media was distorting Iraq security and then needing 100 soldiers, snipers, blackhawk helios, roadblocks etc. just to walk down the street. Face it, you have boughten into one of the BIG lies that keeps Conservatism afloat. I loved it, McCain spreading the big lie and looking like a fool tring to prove it. Everyday we were being told by the White House there was significant progress in Iraq. The real media--not the propaganda channel Fox--said no. Who was right? If you want to show your area 54 type conspiracy theory to be correct, tell me how Iraq is a paradise, where the progress is the media is covering up? You can't do it. Anymore than you can show me Terri Shivo was about to talk, or that her husband beat her, like Hannity and crew were saying.
DC Tom Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 If you want to show your area 54 type conspiracy theory to be correct, tell me how Iraq is a paradise, where the progress is the media is covering up? You can't do it. Anymore than you can show me Terri Shivo was about to talk, or that her husband beat her, like Hannity and crew were saying. So you ask for evidence, he gives you evidence, and you say it doesn't count. Is it any wonder no one takes you seriously?
SilverNRed Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 I love all the spelling errors. Shows how completely flustered you must be at this point. Oh please, you finding a few examples--with the help of right wing bloggers, or whatever--in the vast media which runs thousands of articles a day is hardley enough to support your conspiracy theory of a left wing media.Yeah, I found two examples in two minutes. I could find more but, like I said, it turns into a full time job after a while. McCain shooting his mouth off that the media was distorting Iraq security and then needing 100 soldiers, snipers, blackhawk helios, roadblocks etc. just to walk down the street. Face it, you have boughten into one of the BIG lies that keeps Conservatism afloat. I loved it, McCain spreading the big lie and looking like a fool tring to prove it.Also like I said, the goal in Iraq isn't to make it safe for American Senators to walk down the street. The terrorists aren't stupid. They find out a high profile American is in town and they'll definitely try to kill him. Everyday we were being told by the White House there was significant progress in Iraq. The real media--not the propaganda channel Fox--said no. Who was right?Even the "real media" (BTW: ) admits there's progress from time to time, they just don't cover it with the gusto that they dedicate to, say, a car bomb. The terrorists (again, not stupid) also understand this. They know they can't win militarily. They just have to win the news cycle. And they have. If you want to show your area 54 type conspiracy theory to be correct, tell me how Iraq is a paradise, where the progress is the media is covering up? You can't do it.Area 54? Is that three blocks down from Area 51? There's no conspiracy here. Our media is hopelessly incompetent and the majority of reporters are liberals. Yeah, what a "conspiracy." Anymore than you can show me Terri Shivo was about to talk, or that her husband beat her, like Hannity and crew were saying.TERI SHIAVO! SEAN HANNITY!!!! FLIGHTSUIT!! GOAT STORY!!!! Thank you for ending your reply with thoughts so relevant to this conversation. What you couldn't throw in a few more soundbytes?
SilverNRed Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 So you ask for evidence, he gives you evidence, and you say it doesn't count. Is it any wonder no one takes you seriously? Unfortunately, all the people who take him seriously are busy working at Area 54 and don't have time to post because they're studying UFOs and Sean Hannity's hair. Also, Teri Shiavo is still alive there and that's why she's suddenly in this thread.
molson_golden2002 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Posted April 16, 2007 I love all the spelling errors. Shows how completely flustered you must be at this point. Yeah, I found two examples in two minutes. I could find more but, like I said, it turns into a full time job after a while. Also like I said, the goal in Iraq isn't to make it safe for American Senators to walk down the street. The terrorists aren't stupid. They find out a high profile American is in town and they'll definitely try to kill him. Even the "real media" (BTW: ) admits there's progress from time to time, they just don't cover it with the gusto that they dedicate to, say, a car bomb. The terrorists (again, not stupid) also understand this. They know they can't win militarily. They just have to win the news cycle. And they have. Area 54? Is that three blocks down from Area 51? There's no conspiracy here. Our media is hopelessly incompetent and the majority of reporters are liberals. Yeah, what a "conspiracy." TERI SHIAVO! SEAN HANNITY!!!! FLIGHTSUIT!! GOAT STORY!!!! Thank you for ending your reply with thoughts so relevant to this conversation. What you couldn't throw in a few more soundbytes? You are straying from the point. You are the one claiming the White House/Cheney and company are more trustworthy than the media. That's a joke. Not only does Bush and company lie on a regular basis, they are completely incompetent. Here, from today's news on the "War Czar" idea: Reportedly, three retired generals -- Joe Ralston (Air Force), Jack Keane, (Army) and Jack Sheehan (Marines) -- were all approached about the job, and each turned it down. Sheehan has confirmed the story, with the reaction, “they (the White House) don’t know where they’re going.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18076025/ That's the whole point of our argument. You trust the White House more, I trust the media, and the media has been proved right time and time again. You have boughten into the big lie. Me flustered? Ya, arguing with you is like trying to teach a retard to read.
molson_golden2002 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Posted April 16, 2007 Is it any wonder no one takes you seriously? Tom, if an idiot like you were taking me serious I'd be worried
SilverNRed Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 You are straying from the point. I'm "straying from the point," but you're the one who keeps bringing up Teri Shiavo and Sean Hannity for some reason. It must suck not being able to organize your own thoughts when you post. That's the whole point of our argument. You trust the White House more, I trust the media, and the media has been proved right time and time again. You have boughten into the big lie. Me flustered? Ya, arguing with you is like trying to teach a retard to read. Obviously no one ever taught you to read. I don't trust the government or the media. I don't see how anyone could miss that if they've ever read my posts. You questioning someone else's reading comprehension when you can't spell and your responses don't even make sense is wonderful irony.
molson_golden2002 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Posted April 16, 2007 I'm "straying from the point," but you're the one who keeps bringing up Teri Shiavo and Sean Hannity for some reason. It must suck not being able to organize your own thoughts when you post. Obviously no one ever taught you to read. I don't trust the government or the media. I don't see how anyone could miss that if they've ever read my posts. You questioning someone else's reading comprehension when you can't spell and your responses don't even make sense is wonderful irony. You are full of sh--. You answered one of my Cheney bashing posts by defending him, saying that he was really telling the truth and the media was wrong. I went back to find it but its gone. But you remember, the one where Cheney wasn't running for office again so he can be trusted :lol: Now you say you just distrust the entire world So just tell me, who is to be trusted more on "progress" in Iraq? "Last Throes" Cheney or the media?
DC Tom Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Tom, if an idiot like you were taking me serious I'd be worried That's funny. I'm probably the only one here that does take you seriously.
SilverNRed Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 You are full of sh--. You answered one of my Cheney bashing posts by defending him, saying that he was really telling the truth and the media was wrong. No, I said I probably trusted him a little more than I trust the media but that's not saying much. Those old posts still exist, I looked at them over the weekend just to refresh my memory. Maybe you're just too dumb to work the "search" feature on this board. How on earth can't you find the threads that you started? I'm a conservative, so by definition I don't want the government to have more power. Accusing me of "trusting the government" all the time is truly laughable.
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