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Does anyone like metal? I've been hard pressed to find a similar sound to In Flames. I like the contrasting of styles with them, Andres Friden does a great job. I've seen them live twice in Austin, and was wondering if anyone had a pairing of a similar band. The combiation of melodic parts with metal instances seems somewhat rare.

 

Here's an example song: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zu3DvBaDAY8

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Never heard of them before, but it's a pretty cool song/video (although the style of the video gets old after a bit...).

 

Also, the drummer needs to wear a wig - he looks out of place <_<

 

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Porcupine Tree!!!!

 

they are awesome. more prog/art rock than metal but definitely have metal elements. kinda like tool but less hard.

 

highly recommended.

 

Okay I don't like metal. In fact I don't get metal. Now, I am not (by the classical definition) a music snob, but I keep my ear open to a lot of different things and I'm tolerent of just about anything if I think it's done right. Everything, of course, but metal. I just don't get the grinding and the cough-screaming...

 

Now, I know people were saying the same thing about acts like Little Richard way way back in the day so I'm ashamed that I have similar feelings about metal as people did about early early rock and roll. So like I said, I'm open to enlightenment...

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Okay I don't like metal. In fact I don't get metal. Now, I am not (by the classical definition) a music snob, but I keep my ear open to a lot of different things and I'm tolerent of just about anything if I think it's done right. Everything, of course, but metal. I just don't get the grinding and the cough-screaming...

 

Now, I know people were saying the same thing about acts like Little Richard way way back in the day so I'm ashamed that I have similar feelings about metal as people did about early early rock and roll. So like I said, I'm open to enlightenment...

 

Honestly, the thing about metal bands in that it is about the music, the instrumentals and whatnot. That said I also love Static-X which is the antithesis of what you seem to like, but their music gets me so pumped

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Does anyone like metal? I've been hard pressed to find a similar sound to In Flames. I like the contrasting of styles with them, Andres Friden does a great job. I've seen them live twice in Austin, and was wondering if anyone had a pairing of a similar band. The combiation of melodic parts with metal instances seems somewhat rare.

 

Here's an example song: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zu3DvBaDAY8

 

 

Right off the bat, the Andrew WK-style hair tossing turned me off. I'm still going to listen to it, but that hair s#it has GOT to go.

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OK, here's the "I Hate Everything" snob report you've all been waiting for:

 

In Flames: Again...the hair tossing is just stupid. The video is cheesy...but, I really like the production style. This is metal at its most mediocre, IMO. Where are the blistering guitar solos? The short, 7th grade riff at about 2:30 just isn't metal worthy, IMO. This is more like a punk/garage band with a metal sound.

 

Porcupine Tree: The opening of this song was AWESOME. Very Captain Beyond-esque. I thought, "Holy S#it! This is going to be great" (I had heard so much about this band, I was very excited to hear something this good)...and THEN, the vocals came in and the song turned fairly lame, IMO. What the hell happened? I really don't like the lead singer at all. But, because of the quality of the intro, I'd give them another listen. The ntro had elements of meta, but, of course, this was not metal.

 

Mastodon: Very fun video (and I generally don't like videos). This is fun metal...but, it's still missing the displays of instrumental power i like to hear in my metal. How about a great guitar solo or two and/or some flying guitar work under the vocals instead of just power chords?

 

Murderdolls: Standard metal. I've heard worse, that's for sure. Decent vid. Again, where's the senseless display of chops? And what's with the stupid Billy Idol-esque snear?

 

All in all, not a bad selection, boys. Now for the snob link. This is not metal, but has elements of metal. The album on which these songs originally appear is one of the great albums of all-time, IMO. What we have hear is a VERY rough, and poor quality recording of a live performance in 1971 or 1972. The singer, Rod Evans, sounds like his voice has just about had it from a long tour. Nevertheless, you should be able to get the idea of the quality of all the musicians in the band. The drummer, Bobby Caldwell, may just be GOD:

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l6cnnx3VRFU

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gjN5K2aEh3k&amp...ted&search=

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OK, here's the "I Hate Everything" snob report you've all been waiting for:

 

In Flames: Again...the hair tossing is just stupid. The video is cheesy...but, I really like the production style. This is metal at its most mediocre, IMO. Where are the blistering guitar solos? The short, 7th grade riff at about 2:30 just isn't metal worthy, IMO. This is more like a punk/garage band with a metal sound.

 

Porcupine Tree: The opening of this song was AWESOME. Very Captain Beyond-esque. I thought, "Holy S#it! This is going to be great" (I had heard so much about this band, I was very excited to hear something this good)...and THEN, the vocals came in and the song turned fairly lame, IMO. What the hell happened? I really don't like the lead singer at all. But, because of the quality of the intro, I'd give them another listen. The ntro had elements of meta, but, of course, this was not metal.

 

Mastodon: Very fun video (and I generally don't like videos). This is fun metal...but, it's still missing the displays of instrumental power i like to hear in my metal. How about a great guitar solo or two and/or some flying guitar work under the vocals instead of just power chords?

 

Murderdolls: Standard metal. I've heard worse, that's for sure. Decent vid. Again, where's the senseless display of chops? And what's with the stupid Billy Idol-esque snear?

 

All in all, not a bad selection, boys. Now for the snob link. This is not metal, but has elements of metal. The album on which these songs originally appear is one of the great albums of all-time, IMO. What we have hear is a VERY rough, and poor quality recording of a live performance in 1971 or 1972. The singer, Rod Evans, sounds like his voice has just about had it from a long tour. Nevertheless, you should be able to get the idea of the quality of all the musicians in the band. The drummer, Bobby Caldwell, may just be GOD:

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l6cnnx3VRFU

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gjN5K2aEh3k&amp...ted&search=

 

Ask and ye shall receive, Dean.... Mastodon's chops, as it were:

 

 

I really like Captain Beyond. Their drummer is the man, time signatures are his B word, the guitarist's solo is nasty. Good prog. good stuff.

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Ask and ye shall receive, Dean.... Mastodon's chops, as it were:

 

 

I really like Captain Beyond. Their drummer is the man, time signatures are his B word, the guitarist's solo is nasty. Good prog. good stuff.

 

 

Much better. A little reminiscent of early Blue Oyster Cult (especially the beginning of the song which had a little Dominance and Submission feel to it) These guys seem to make good/fun videos, too. Thanks for the find, Sketch.

 

For those not in the know, heres' the skinny on Captain Beyond:

 

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:mw5s8qntbtx4

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OK, here's the "I Hate Everything" snob report you've all been waiting for:

 

In Flames: Again...the hair tossing is just stupid. The video is cheesy...but, I really like the production style. This is metal at its most mediocre, IMO. Where are the blistering guitar solos? The short, 7th grade riff at about 2:30 just isn't metal worthy, IMO. This is more like a punk/garage band with a metal sound.

 

Porcupine Tree: The opening of this song was AWESOME. Very Captain Beyond-esque. I thought, "Holy S#it! This is going to be great" (I had heard so much about this band, I was very excited to hear something this good)...and THEN, the vocals came in and the song turned fairly lame, IMO. What the hell happened? I really don't like the lead singer at all. But, because of the quality of the intro, I'd give them another listen. The ntro had elements of meta, but, of course, this was not metal.

 

Mastodon: Very fun video (and I generally don't like videos). This is fun metal...but, it's still missing the displays of instrumental power i like to hear in my metal. How about a great guitar solo or two and/or some flying guitar work under the vocals instead of just power chords?

 

Murderdolls: Standard metal. I've heard worse, that's for sure. Decent vid. Again, where's the senseless display of chops? And what's with the stupid Billy Idol-esque snear?

 

All in all, not a bad selection, boys. Now for the snob link. This is not metal, but has elements of metal. The album on which these songs originally appear is one of the great albums of all-time, IMO. What we have hear is a VERY rough, and poor quality recording of a live performance in 1971 or 1972. The singer, Rod Evans, sounds like his voice has just about had it from a long tour. Nevertheless, you should be able to get the idea of the quality of all the musicians in the band. The drummer, Bobby Caldwell, may just be GOD:

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l6cnnx3VRFU

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gjN5K2aEh3k&amp...ted&search=

 

Good stuff, Dean.

 

Steven Wilson (guitar, lead vocals) basically is Porcupine Tree. I agree that the vocals are the weakest part of PT's music, but he is such a phenomenal musician and songwriter that I can overlook that. PT also wrote what should be the anthem of all music snobs, The Sound Of Muzak. Not the official video obviously, but it's the album track.

 

Hear the sound of music

Drifting in the aisles

Elevator prozac

Stretching on for miles

 

The music of the future

Will not entertain

It's only meant to repress

And neutralise your brain

 

Soul gets squeezed out

Edges get blunt

Demographic

Gives what you want

 

And if PT isn't heavy enough for you, check out the work Steven Wilson did producing and contributing to the band Opeth. It's not my cup of tea personally, but this is probably more along the lines of what BlueFire was asking for originally.

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qsO94_22Bgs

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Have you heard of Trivium?

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f8ZZ1ql9BSM

 

I can't stand the way Heafy sings on the new album. It sounds like a Hetfield impersonation. I loved Ascendancy though, great album.

 

Anyway, it's about time we had a decent metal thread 'round these here parts!!!

 

I've been listening to Amon Amarth and the new Shadows Fall lately.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFq2YJKYa-k

(This song makes me want to be a Viking.)

 

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Good stuff, Dean.

 

Steven Wilson (guitar, lead vocals) basically is Porcupine Tree. I agree that the vocals are the weakest part of PT's music, but he is such a phenomenal musician and songwriter that I can overlook that. PT also wrote what should be the anthem of all music snobs, The Sound Of Muzak. Not the official video obviously, but it's the album track.

 

Hear the sound of music

Drifting in the aisles

Elevator prozac

Stretching on for miles

 

The music of the future

Will not entertain

It's only meant to repress

And neutralise your brain

 

Soul gets squeezed out

Edges get blunt

Demographic

Gives what you want

 

And if PT isn't heavy enough for you, check out the work Steven Wilson did producing and contributing to the band Opeth. It's not my cup of tea personally, but this is probably more along the lines of what BlueFire was asking for originally.

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qsO94_22Bgs

 

PT Muzak track: Very nice, indeed. Even the vocals don't suck in this one. :thumbsup:

 

While the vid is not great I appreciated the symbolism of the "small cigars". Very cool.

 

Nice and subversive, too. The softness/smoothness of the tune is likely to make it to grocery stores and elevators ( a la Steely Dan) and the rubes in the stores won't have any idea that they are listening to music that s making fun of them and the other music in the mix. <_<

 

I'll have to listen to the other vid later tonight.

 

THANKS

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