Mickey Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 If your polish LB buddy lasts to the Bills 2nd round pick, it would be a great pick. Unfortunately for the Bills, that just is NOT going to happen. If they want Pos, they should trade down and pick him in the mid-to-late 1st, IMO. (OR package one of their thirds and second and make him the team's second 1st round pick.) Trade downs are not as easy as many seem to think they are. There has to be no one you are interested in available at your original spot for you to consider moving down. There has to be someone there a team drafting later in the round really wants and who that team is convinced won't be there when their original pick is up. The team moving down has to undergo a similar analysis regarding whoever it is they really want in the round, albeit with a later pick. I think that too often the assumption around here is that any trade down we dream up is there for the taking if only our "senile" GM would pull the trigger. That just isn't the case.
The Dean Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Trade downs are not as easy as many seem to think they are. There has to be no one you are interested in available at your original spot for you to consider moving down. There has to be someone there a team drafting later in the round really wants and who that team is convinced won't be there when their original pick is up. The team moving down has to undergo a similar analysis regarding whoever it is they really want in the round, albeit with a later pick. I think that too often the assumption around here is that any trade down we dream up is there for the taking if only our "senile" GM would pull the trigger. That just isn't the case. In every trade, it takes (at least) two willing parties. You are right, a lot of people seem to forget that.
jri111 Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Okoye probably will go in the top 10 but I hope he slips to 12. Posluszny more likely will go in the mid to late first round. I could see him being a Levy pick. He talks a lot about moving down in the 87' draft and picking Shane Conlan. Poz has some of the same qualities. Exactly! I love puz, I want puz. But I really feel if the Bills want him, they have to take him at 12. Though that may seem high to some people, Levy made it clear last year, he'll take the guy he wants when he picks, no matter where that is. I have this suspicion that Puz is the perfect Levy guy. Great player, good student, humble, and he's played his best in 2005 as the WLB in the college equivilant to the cover 2 defense at Penn State. I would love nothing more then to get Okoye at 12 and then trade up to the late first to get Puz. But that's taking a big chance that he won't be there. A lot of mocks have him going as high as 13 to St. Louis. So I think if he's the highest rated player on Levy's board in a need position when he picks, don't be surprise to see puz picked at 12. By the way, Shane Conlon, another great LB from Linebacker U!
stuckincincy Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Exactly! I love puz, I want puz. Good for you!
The Dean Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 ??????????????? what does that do? What does what do?
The Dean Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Exactly! I love puz, I want puz. But I really feel if the Bills want him, they have to take him at 12. Though that may seem high to some people, Levy made it clear last year, he'll take the guy he wants when he picks, no matter where that is. I have this suspicion that Puz is the perfect Levy guy. Great player, good student, humble, and he's played his best in 2005 as the WLB in the college equivilant to the cover 2 defense at Penn State. I would love nothing more then to get Okoye at 12 and then trade up to the late first to get Puz. But that's taking a big chance that he won't be there. A lot of mocks have him going as high as 13 to St. Louis. So I think if he's the highest rated player on Levy's board in a need position when he picks, don't be surprise to see puz picked at 12. By the way, Shane Conlon, another great LB from Linebacker U! It's also possible (given other teams needs, etc) that he'll pick Poz at 12 and trade to get Okoye a little later.
Mile High Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 This report is a smoke-screen. Do you really think that anyone inside the organization is gonna say or hold a press conference re: who the Bills are actually looking to draft.
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 If Okoye or Peterson is still there at 12, we have to take one of them. If they are both gone my best guess is that we trade down a few spots and take some combination of running back and linebacker with our two first round picks. (obviously, this presupposes that we take our extra pick from trading down from 12 and get back into the end of the first round) How about Marshawn Lynch and Pozlusny? That is two starters right there men. We put Crowell in the middle, and than let Ellison, Spikes, and Pozlusny fight it out as to who starts. I think we may even bring in another linebacker later on to put into the mix as well. Remember that Ellison is a sixth round pick who was able to play. I believe the Bills feel that anyone they draft on defense has a chance to really contribute. No projects will be drafted on the defensive side of the ball.
KOKBILLS Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 When judging "best available", it just HAS TO be analyzed through the subjective filter of the team's needs and the draft's strengths and weaknesses. My example and explanation are very simplified, I know. It's more complex than that. Agreed...And lets not forget it's the BPA at a Need Position based on the Bills evaluation of said Prospect...For example, I don't think there is any question the Bills were MUCH higher on Donte Whitner than some other Teams last year...So it's tough to determine exactly who that BPA at a Need Position is because it's tough to know who Marv and Co. are truly enamoured with... My guess is the Bills would LOVE to see Adrian Peterson fall to #12...After that I think they are hoping for Okoye and they will settle for Lynch...Obviously I have no real idea though...I guess we'll see soon enough...
The Big Cat Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I can't wait to see the board crash when Marv picks someone completely unexpected. haha TBD traditionalist are going to crap themselves...they think there's been a nauseating influx of new posters during the off-season, just wait till Marv K's us all with an 0-2 screw ball!
Mike formerly from Florida Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 they think there's been a nauseating influx of new posters during the off-season I didn't know this board was an exclusive club!
sarmanuscg07 Posted March 21, 2007 Author Posted March 21, 2007 I didn't know this board was an exclusive club! ooh yea its like the VFW except instead of having to go through a foreign war we have to be bills fans and watch our team lose 4 consecutive superbowls and yadda yadda.. although vfw's are cooler because you get cheap booze and listen to old men share war stories with the same people every friday night... hey poineer members , do we get at least a book of coupons or a complimentary pack of labatts?
The Senator Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Bills SB in 08! Now yer talkin'!!! See you February 3rd in Phoenix...oh yeah...you know it... 19 and 0 baby!!! GO BILLLSSSS!!!!!!
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