HelloNewman Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 After watching the Bills/breasts game I zeroed in on right tackle and watched how the fat unprepared slob we have at right tackle during the game get beaten by whoever was at left defensive end. If I remember correctly it was Kevin Carter #93 that blew right by the slob on his way to Bledsoe. What the hell are the Bills paying you for anyway? A special thanks goes to TD for really dropping the ball for wasting a #4 pick on this fat immature child who has no dedication to winning. I knew that drafting a 370 pound left tackle was a mistake. Guys that big eventually eat themselves out of the league----- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 After watching the Bills/breasts game I zeroed in on right tackle and watched how the fat unprepared slob we have at right tackle during the game get beaten by whoever was at left defensive end. If I remember correctly it was Kevin Carter #93 that blew right by the slob on his way to Bledsoe. What the hell are the Bills paying you for anyway? A special thanks goes to TD for really dropping the ball for wasting a #4 pick on this fat immature child who has no dedication to winning. I knew that drafting a 370 pound left tackle was a mistake. Guys that big eventually eat themselves out of the league----- 4406[/snapback] Ahhhh, what a wonderful dose of ax-grinding, bile-spewing pessimism this good Monday morning. What a wonderful refreshing surprise it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 While I still hold high hopes for Mike DE Carter did blow right by him. That was a really really piss poor effort by Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Lets see how he is in a couple of weeks when games matter. He stll did have a ankle sprain. Also he is just one part of the offensive line. read this , no where does it say him to be a lazy , stupid anything.notice the work ethic comments. Mike Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 i watched the play of Mike Williams as well....and I did see Kevin Carter blow by him once. Other than that....he looked "ok". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MikeInRich Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 It completely amazes me how some people take it as Donahoe's fault that Williams isn't playing well. At the time the pick was made, almost everyone thought it was a good pick. You cannot fault a GM if what appears to be a good pick at the time turns out bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Did TD force Mike Williams to overeat? Did TD force Mike Williams to miss practice? Did TD force Mike Williams not to work out in the offseason? Mike Williams is a PROFESSIONAL football player that is paid millions of dollars to perform. It's not up to TD to hold his hand and make sure he is ready to play. That said, other than ONE play on Saturday, Mike Williams looked fairly decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30dive Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 After watching the Bills/breasts game I zeroed in on right tackle and watched how the fat unprepared slob we have at right tackle during the game get beaten by whoever was at left defensive end. If I remember correctly it was Kevin Carter #93 that blew right by the slob on his way to Bledsoe. What the hell are the Bills paying you for anyway? A special thanks goes to TD for really dropping the ball for wasting a #4 pick on this fat immature child who has no dedication to winning. I knew that drafting a 370 pound left tackle was a mistake. Guys that big eventually eat themselves out of the league----- 4406[/snapback] You sit in your comfortable chair at home and piss and moan about picks made three years ago. Maybe you should share that crystal ball with your "favorite" football teams leadership, or maybe you should just apply for a job, seeing as though "you knew...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 well, Mike may be a square peg getting rammed into a round hole. McNally did say he wanted him at guard, but Mularkey didn't want to screw with that. Well, I'm sorry, but McNally has a better feel for OL talent than does Mularkey and with all of the injuries and trials in retooling the offensive line, Mularkey may as well have gone ahead with that conversion. This is definitely going to be a defining year for Mike Williams. I think McNally/Mularkey are going to work Williams a$$ off the next 3 weeks and try to get him down to 350 or so... it'll either make him or break him. Then again, Larry Smith did a good job Sat nite in his first ever start. He sealed off the pursuit real well on that run that netted 22 TH 22 yds. WE may very well see two new starters on opening day... Smith at LG and Price at RT... and at the very least we may see a rotation at RT of Price and Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Yes, you can hold the GM responsible for picks that do not work out. Outside of a career ending injury (such as Sam Cowart), a lack of dedication and work ethic can be teased out from interviewing the player, their coaches, and other tangible methods. Great scouting departments not only find talented players, they also find players who are dedicated to success. Sometimes just looking at the program, and its commitment to winning is just as important. Having said all that, I thought that the selection of MW was a good idea at #4, with the caveat that he play LT. Given that he was going to be a RT from day 1, I would have passed on him. I do not think you spend a #4 on a RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Yes, you can hold the GM responsible for picks that do not work out. Outside of a career ending injury (such as Sam Cowart), a lack of dedication and work ethic can be teased out from interviewing the player, their coaches, and other tangible methods. Great scouting departments not only find talented players, they also find players who are dedicated to success. Can you determine if a player's family member will die sometime in the near future and leave the player despondent, reportedly to the point of considering retirement? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Can you determine if a player's family member will die sometime in the near future and leave the player despondent, reportedly to the point of considering retirement? Nope. 4620[/snapback] The family death explains his play this preseason. Prior to that event, MW still did not display the quality of play for a 4th overall pick. Regardless, I still content that we should have either picked a LT at #4, or traded down to get a RT later in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJaimie Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 well, Mike may be a square peg getting rammed into a round hole. McNally did say he wanted him at guard, but Mularkey didn't want to screw with that. Well, I'm sorry, but McNally has a better feel for OL talent than does Mularkey and with all of the injuries and trials in retooling the offensive line, Mularkey may as well have gone ahead with that conversion. This is definitely going to be a defining year for Mike Williams. I think McNally/Mularkey are going to work Williams a$$ off the next 3 weeks and try to get him down to 350 or so... it'll either make him or break him. Then again, Larry Smith did a good job Sat nite in his first ever start. He sealed off the pursuit real well on that run that netted 22 TH 22 yds. WE may very well see two new starters on opening day... Smith at LG and Price at RT... and at the very least we may see a rotation at RT of Price and Williams. 4472[/snapback] No, McNally said he didn't want to mess with that, not Mularkey: "Though OL coach Jim McNally told PFW that mammoth ORT Mike Williams may ultimately serve the team best as a guard, using his size and power to help neutralize space-eating DTs like Ted Washington, McNally admitted that his ability to make changes has been restricted. Because he’s in his first year with the Bills as part of Mike Mularkey’s initial staff, McNally told PFW that it wasn’t in the best interests of a Buffalo team with high expectations to overhaul the O-line. “You screw up any consistency they once had if you move too many people around,” McNally said. “It would be OK if we were an expansion team and people didn’t expect much. Then, you (could) have some trial and error.”" http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/A...WHI/default.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Well... To Mike's defense. Morrison reported on the Friday before the game that MW was hurt and having trouble with his foot work because of the injury. Morrison didn't think he was going to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSCOE P. COE TRAIN Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Excellent post and well said. i agree 100%. why was MW not moved to the left. if he was to stay on the right, why use a #4 to do that? very strange. john runyan - maybe the best RT in the game, is about 5 x times better than MW. Yes, you can hold the GM responsible for picks that do not work out. Outside of a career ending injury (such as Sam Cowart), a lack of dedication and work ethic can be teased out from interviewing the player, their coaches, and other tangible methods. Great scouting departments not only find talented players, they also find players who are dedicated to success. Sometimes just looking at the program, and its commitment to winning is just as important. Having said all that, I thought that the selection of MW was a good idea at #4, with the caveat that he play LT. Given that he was going to be a RT from day 1, I would have passed on him. I do not think you spend a #4 on a RT. 4489[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Well... To Mike's defense. Morrison reported on the Friday before the game that MW was hurt and having trouble with his foot work because of the injury. Morrison didn't think he was going to play. 4672[/snapback] There's very little defense here IMO. If he was in shape as he's paid to be, he most likely wouldn't be injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 No, McNally said he didn't want to mess with that, not Mularkey:"Though OL coach Jim McNally told PFW that mammoth ORT Mike Williams may ultimately serve the team best as a guard, using his size and power to help neutralize space-eating DTs like Ted Washington, McNally admitted that his ability to make changes has been restricted. Because he’s in his first year with the Bills as part of Mike Mularkey’s initial staff, McNally told PFW that it wasn’t in the best interests of a Buffalo team with high expectations to overhaul the O-line. “You screw up any consistency they once had if you move too many people around,” McNally said. “It would be OK if we were an expansion team and people didn’t expect much. Then, you (could) have some trial and error.”" http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/A...WHI/default.htm 4654[/snapback] Lets also keep in mind that this quote which keeps getting thrown around as fact is from PROFOOTBALL WEEKLY. Not exactly a solid source of reporting. Notice the quote they use doesn't say anything about any particular player. They could have been asking about Teague when they quoted him. Typical poor jurnalism. Spinning junk to make it fit where you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 I tried. But, your right... Should've been in camp on time and in shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Interesting how you focused on MW's total play, and deemed to highlight ttwo mistakes out of the whole half. Perhaps in the interest of fairness, you could shed light on MW's performance in run blocking - such as him taking out the entire Tenn left side that sprang Willis. Granted, that his dedication to the game can certainly be questioned, but considering his weight & injury coming into camp, he performed very well after only 2 weeks of practice. If the guy gets into playing shape by Sept 12, I'd love to see your review then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Lets also keep in mind that this quote which keeps getting thrown around as fact is from PROFOOTBALL WEEKLY. Not exactly a solid source of reporting. Notice the quote they use doesn't say anything about any particular player. They could have been asking about Teague when they quoted him. Typical poor jurnalism. Spinning junk to make it fit where you want. 4679[/snapback] that is correct, when Tom Donahoe was asked about that he said Mcnally had never mentioned this to him ever and that they talk every day about players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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