/dev/null Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 "I personally find the word 'alien' offensive when applied to individuals, especially to children," said Sen. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami. "An alien to me is someone from out of space." http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...1/70227062/1075 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I think she has a point, actually. I mean, how long will it be before killer tomatoes stop attacking because they don't like being bundled in the same class as undocumented Mexicans? We need to stop the madness. Kindness and leniency to all. Except Republicans. Those !@#$ers can die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I think she has a point, actually. I mean, how long will it be before killer tomatoes stop attacking because they don't like being bundled in the same class as undocumented Mexicans? We need to stop the madness. Kindness and leniency to all. Except Republicans. Those !@#$ers can die. Right on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...1/70227062/1075 From "out of space"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 From "out of space"? Yeah that caught my eye too. When I saw that I figured she was either misquoted or is just an idiot. After reading the rest of the article I concluded the possibility that she was misquoted is irrelevant because she is an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 From "out of space"? That is probably the way she spoke it? And they quoted as that? English as a second language? Not sure what culture she is... Etc... ??? I noticed it too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 This ranks right up there with the whole "outrage" over referring to computer hard drives as "slaves" or "masters." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 This ranks right up there with the whole "outrage" over referring to computer hard drives as "slaves" or "masters." Isn't the whole early computer nomanclature driven by sex references... Say like "laptop" or SCSI "scuzzy" because they can be "daisy chained"... I just assumed the same with the HD's... You know these tech geeks, especially the early one's had to get off somehow... And God knows it wasn't with an actual person... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 From "out of space"? Yes, out of space. Why the !@#$ do you think they're all coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 OK, I'll go back to calling them wetbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 This ranks right up there with the whole "outrage" over referring to computer hard drives as "slaves" or "masters." Now, now...let's be understanding, some people are offended by that terminology. And in recognition of that, ever since that issue I've taken to calling them "plantation owner" and "cotton picker" drives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Isn't the whole early computer nomanclature driven by sex references... Say like "laptop" or SCSI "scuzzy" because they can be "daisy chained"... I just assumed the same with the HD's... You know these tech geeks, especially the early one's had to get off somehow... And God knows it wasn't with an actual person... While he was inventing the intarweb, I wonder what role Al Gore played in naming those offensive devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Where are the Americans who were supposidly lining up to take these jobs? Now farms have to turn to prison labor to farms to work. What a joke http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...-home-headlines DENVER — Ever since passing what its Legislature promoted as the nation's toughest laws against illegal immigration last summer, Colorado has struggled with a labor shortage as migrants fled the state. This week, officials announced a novel solution: Use convicts as farmworkers. The Department of Corrections hopes to launch a pilot program this month — thought to be the first of its kind — that would contract with more than a dozen farms to provide inmates who will pick melons, onions and peppers. Crops were left to spoil in the fields after the passage of legislation that required state identification to get government services and allowed police to check suspects' immigration status. "The reason this [program] started is to make sure the agricultural industry wouldn't go out of business," state Rep. Dorothy Butcher said. Her district includes Pueblo, near the farmland where the inmates will work. Prisoners who are a low security risk may choose to work in the fields, earning 60 cents a day. They also are eligible for small bonuses. The inmates will be watched by prison guards, who will be paid by the farms. The cost is subject to negotiation, but farmers say they expect to pay more for the inmate labor and its associated costs than for their traditional workers. Advocates on both sides of the immigration debate said they were stunned by the proposal. "If they can't get slaves from Mexico, they want them from the jails," said Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, which favors restrictions on immigration. Ricardo Martinez of the Denver immigrant rights group Padres Unidos asked: "Are we going to pull in inmates to work in the service industry too? You won't have enough inmates — unless you start importing them from Texas." Farmers said they weren't happy with the solution, but their livelihoods are on the verge of collapse. "This prison labor is not a cure for the immigration problem; it's just a Band-Aid," farmer Joe Pisciotta said. He said he needed to be sure he would have enough workers for the harvest this fall before he planted watermelons, onions and pumpkins on his 700-acre farm in Avondale. But he's not thrilled with the idea of criminals working his fields. "I've got young kids," he said. "It's something I've got to think about." Pisciotta said he hoped the program highlighted what he viewed as the absurdity of Colorado's position — dependent on immigrant labor but trying to chase migrants away. He said the people leaving were not just those who entered the country illegally. "Some of them have said, 'We think our paperwork is in order, but how about if it's not and we get caught on a glitch,' " he said. Ever since the Democratic-controlled Legislature took a tough turn on immigration, the new requirements have worried those in the country legally and illegally. Immigrant advocates allege that some sheriffs have authorized deputies to pull over Latino drivers on supposed speeding violations and ask them whether they are in the country legally. And more stringent requirements put into effect last year made it harder to get a driver's license. Numerous U.S. citizens, including the daughter of a state legislator, were refused licenses because they lacked proper proof of citizenship. A judge has since ruled that the requirements must be revised. Social service agencies say they have discovered few illegal immigrants on public assistance since the laws were passed. Immigrant and business groups agree that the heated rhetoric has led to an exodus of Latinos — though no one is sure how many. Businesses including carwashes and construction firms have complained of a worker shortage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Where are the Americans who were supposidly lining up to take these jobs? Now farms have to turn to prison labor to farms to work. What a joke What exactly is the problem with that? Prisoners should be working to support their free room and board. It's high time we put the liberal pansy mentality behind us and got back to chain gangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 From "out of space"? She's from Miami...they dont hold English too highly down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Where are the Americans who were supposidly lining up to take these jobs? Now farms have to turn to prison labor to farms to work. What a joke http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...-home-headlines DENVER — Ever since passing what its Legislature promoted as the nation's toughest laws against illegal immigration last summer, Colorado has struggled with a labor shortage as migrants fled the state. This week, officials announced a novel solution: Use convicts as farmworkers. The Department of Corrections hopes to launch a pilot program this month — thought to be the first of its kind — that would contract with more than a dozen farms to provide inmates who will pick melons, onions and peppers. Crops were left to spoil in the fields after the passage of legislation that required state identification to get government services and allowed police to check suspects' immigration status. "The reason this [program] started is to make sure the agricultural industry wouldn't go out of business," state Rep. Dorothy Butcher said. Her district includes Pueblo, near the farmland where the inmates will work. Prisoners who are a low security risk may choose to work in the fields, earning 60 cents a day. They also are eligible for small bonuses. The inmates will be watched by prison guards, who will be paid by the farms. The cost is subject to negotiation, but farmers say they expect to pay more for the inmate labor and its associated costs than for their traditional workers. Advocates on both sides of the immigration debate said they were stunned by the proposal. "If they can't get slaves from Mexico, they want them from the jails," said Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, which favors restrictions on immigration. Ricardo Martinez of the Denver immigrant rights group Padres Unidos asked: "Are we going to pull in inmates to work in the service industry too? You won't have enough inmates — unless you start importing them from Texas." Farmers said they weren't happy with the solution, but their livelihoods are on the verge of collapse. "This prison labor is not a cure for the immigration problem; it's just a Band-Aid," farmer Joe Pisciotta said. He said he needed to be sure he would have enough workers for the harvest this fall before he planted watermelons, onions and pumpkins on his 700-acre farm in Avondale. But he's not thrilled with the idea of criminals working his fields. "I've got young kids," he said. "It's something I've got to think about." Pisciotta said he hoped the program highlighted what he viewed as the absurdity of Colorado's position — dependent on immigrant labor but trying to chase migrants away. He said the people leaving were not just those who entered the country illegally. "Some of them have said, 'We think our paperwork is in order, but how about if it's not and we get caught on a glitch,' " he said. Ever since the Democratic-controlled Legislature took a tough turn on immigration, the new requirements have worried those in the country legally and illegally. Immigrant advocates allege that some sheriffs have authorized deputies to pull over Latino drivers on supposed speeding violations and ask them whether they are in the country legally. And more stringent requirements put into effect last year made it harder to get a driver's license. Numerous U.S. citizens, including the daughter of a state legislator, were refused licenses because they lacked proper proof of citizenship. A judge has since ruled that the requirements must be revised. Social service agencies say they have discovered few illegal immigrants on public assistance since the laws were passed. Immigrant and business groups agree that the heated rhetoric has led to an exodus of Latinos — though no one is sure how many. Businesses including carwashes and construction firms have complained of a worker shortage. How about paying people well? Honor the minimum wage, and you will generally find people who will work. I notice the article doesn't mention how much they were paying their possibly illegal labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Ya, those welfare people just can't wait for jobs to open up! Real go getters they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 How about paying people well? Honor the minimum wage, and you will generally find people who will work. I notice the article doesn't mention how much they were paying their possibly illegal labor. Enough to make them move there and do the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 What exactly is the problem with that? Prisoners should be working to support their free room and board. It's high time we put the liberal pansy mentality behind us and got back to chain gangs. Think of the problems of government controlled labor would create. Its just a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 What exactly is the problem with that? Prisoners should be working to support their free room and board. It's high time we put the liberal pansy mentality behind us and got back to chain gangs. "What we have here is a failure to communicate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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