Jonathan Paul Losman Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I've seen Vinetieri hit a FG in a blizzard and these idiots are afraid to kick into some wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 As they should it was a no brainer to kick the FG ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I've seen Vinetieri hit a FG in a blizzard and these idiots are afraid to kick into some wind. 877117[/snapback] and I have seen kickers miss 47 yard FGs with no wind and the Superbowl on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I would have been pissed had he trotted Lindell out there and his kick fell 10 yards short. I knew when they started that drive that they were going to have to get inside the 20 before they had a realistic shot at a FG. I have no clue how anybody has a problem with the decision. 877080[/snapback] Yet they thought JP can throw into wind ! Can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 We will never know. Just more pain for us Buffalo fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 You're right, they (ESPN) know nothing at all about football. That's about the smartest comment I have seen on this board today. Merry Xmas 877110[/snapback] You're right, they (the Bills coaches - who were actually on the field) know nothing at all about football. That's about the smartest comment I have seen on this board today. Merry Xmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Thinking more about it now, its pretty clear that there was NO WAY that kick would have made it. A 45 yarder to win is tough with ZERO wind. With the way things were today, it was virtually impossible. Still weird the way it all went down. 877106[/snapback] What wind , look at the replay, when JP took the snap the flags on the goalposts were hanging straightdown not even moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Paul Losman Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Norwood was 0 for his career on grass. He had a leg, but no accuracy. Also, keep in mind it was probably 50/50 that Lindell hits it, but I'd take that over trying to convert 4th and 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 What wind , look at the replay, when JP took the snap the flags on the goalposts were hanging straightdown not even moving. 877128[/snapback] what wind? Do you live in the northeast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 You're right, they (the Bills coaches - who were actually on the field) know nothing at all about football. That's about the smartest comment I have seen on this board today. Merry Xmas 877127[/snapback] We lost....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Yet they thought JP can throw into wind ! Can't have it both ways. 877125[/snapback] The playcall was not to throw the ball down field. It ended up that way because of the presure JP was under on that play. It's not a matter of having it both ways. I guarantee the play call was for nothing more than a 5-10 yard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 We lost....................... 877132[/snapback] Everytime the Bills lose the coaches make bad calls and everytime they win they make good calls? I guess ESPN is always right when then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Paul Losman Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 what wind? Do you live in the northeast? 877131[/snapback] I live in Toronto and there isn't any right now or while the game was on, but I'm not disputing that it was windy. Just not windy enough to abandon the kicking game at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 The playcall was not to throw the ball down field. It ended up that way because of the presure JP was under on that play. It's not a matter of having it both ways. I guarantee the play call was for nothing more than a 5-10 yard pass. 877133[/snapback] Why not run it then. It's safer and lot more probable. Either way Fairchild blew it on this playcall and at the end of the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Everytime the Bills lose the coaches make bad calls and everytime they win they make good calls? I guess ESPN is always right when then. 877134[/snapback] The Bills coaching staff is always correct. To me, Dick made the wrong call today. We had a chance to win and he pulled back and played conservative. Playing conservative is ok but sometimes you have to lay it all on the line and go for the win. Lindell has a pretty strong leg if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Paul Losman Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Lindell has a good leg. I question his desire if he truly didn't want to go out and be the hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 The Bills coaching staff is always correct. To me, Dick made the wrong call today. We had a chance to win and he pulled back and played conservative. Playing conservative is ok but sometimes you have to lay it all on the line and go for the win. Lindell has a pretty strong leg if I remember correctly. 877140[/snapback] How exactly is the conservative call going for it on 4th down? The conservative call is kicking it and if they miss you made the so called "correct" call. There were a few bad calls on the field today. The 3rd down call for instance. I would never claim that they were free from criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/garber_greg/1453717.html "Teams should be a lot more aggressive on fourth down," Romer says with the precise air of a scientist. "On average, you'd be better off going for it, essentially, in any short-yardage situation, and then there are some cases even in longer yardage when you're in that position where neither punting nor a field goal looks very attractive. Those "idiots" Mariucci, Belichick and Walsh also subscribe to the theory. Methinks this argument's going to go on for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Like I have said before I don't have a problem with going for it on 4th down, the problem i have is the play call on 3rd down. If he knew he was going on 4th then they should have run the football on third and had a play ready for 4th down. The play calling was unacceptable IMHO but i don't coach football so who am i. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 what wind? Do you live in the northeast? 877131[/snapback] yes, orig. from E.A. just sayin look at the game tape , the wind was not blowing hard during that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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