justnzane Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 really I think he will be executed.... 868728[/snapback] Come on i think a few are for executing LSI, but come on i think that is a little too harsh of a punishment for overreacting to a punch. in all seriousness, that horse collar takedown was bush-league. that should get 20 games for that alone. melo should probably get about 15 and isaiah should just quit basketball (disgrace as a Knicks exec and his post-game comments). How can any coach admit to "giving up" and to ask for the other coach to pull his studs off the court in the pros, this isn't modified level ball here. I give the nugget players a little props for not commenting about the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Come on i think a few are for executing LSI, but come on i think that is a little too harsh of a punishment for overreacting to a punch. in all seriousness, that horse collar takedown was bush-league. that should get 20 games for that alone. melo should probably get about 15 and isaiah should just quit basketball (disgrace as a Knicks exec and his post-game comments). How can any coach admit to "giving up" and to ask for the other coach to pull his studs off the court in the pros, this isn't modified level ball here. I give the nugget players a little props for not commenting about the incident. 868738[/snapback] Let me clarify what i said... I want to see Carmelo suspended for the rest of the season, but I know that won't happen. I think that he will get between 15-20 games to think about what he did. Plus a very BIG fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 in all seriousness, that horse collar takedown was bush-league. that should get 20 games for that alone. melo should probably get about 15 and isaiah should just quit basketball (disgrace as a Knicks exec and his post-game comments). How can any coach admit to "giving up" and to ask for the other coach to pull his studs off the court in the pros, this isn't modified level ball here. I give the nugget players a little props for not commenting about the incident. 868738[/snapback] Totally agree. What I think is funny is that (and maybe I'm jumping the gun here but my gut says no) there are a whole bunch of people here who look at this fight and say: "That's why I hate the NBA" "It's just a league full of thugs" "I won't watch anymore" Yet, many of these same people are HUGE hockey fans. The situation drips with hypocrisy. Take this scenario: Dude takes a cheap hit to the head or from behind. Teammates come to his aid and start shoving each other. It even escalates to the point where a pair of players circle each other and start throwing punches, pulling jerseys and beating ass. Example A: The players are wearing skates and sweaters. Example B: The players are wearing shorts and sneakers. Which is worse? Well, while the players in example A will most likely actually fight (blood drawn, multiple *real* blows landed), there will be a penalty. Example B, a news shtstorm, suspensions exceeding a dozen games and an increased perception that there is something wrong with the NBA. Like I said, maybe I'm jumping the gun here...but I'd bet my last dollar that half of all hockey fans will click on Sportscenter tomorrow morning, see this fight and shake their heads while they complain that the NBA is full of thugs. Then a hockey highlight will follow and they will cheer at what a badass fight took place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Let me clarify what i said... I want to see Carmelo suspended for the rest of the season, but I know that won't happen. I think that he will get between 15-20 games to think about what he did. Plus a very BIG fine. 868740[/snapback] just busting your stones kid as well as taters, and congrats on getting into oneonta. Should be a good time full of alcholic stupors and nights spent trolling the internet when you should be doing hw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I didn't realize anybody still watched the NBA. The sport took a nosedive in popularity after Jordan retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaLee83 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Friggin dirtbags, all of them. They wonder why no one cares about the NBA anymore, it's the criminal association of the US. Do they also wonder why people form misconstrued racist opinions of them also? I hope the NBA takes such a dive in popularity that salaries drop, arenas close and the whole damned league goes under. Oh and I'm no hockey fan either, I would be if fighting wasn't such a built in aspect of the game. Doesn't bother me one bit that hockey isn't all that popular either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Somewhere in Indiana there's a BF with smoke coming out horizontally from both ears right about now - and for the next several weeks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 No. Any player who starts a fight is a disgrace. The NBA doesn't need player like that to ruin their image. 868690[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buford T. Justice Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I won't be LSI no more once I graduate. I got accepted to SUNY Oneonta so I got to create a new name. 868737[/snapback] What is your projected timeframe for establishing yourself as an idiot under the new name too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loadofmularkey Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I won't be LSI no more once I graduate. I got accepted to SUNY Oneonta so I got to create a new name. 868737[/snapback] You crack me up SUNY Oneonta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 No. Any player who starts a fight is a disgrace. The NBA doesn't need player like that to ruin their image. 868690[/snapback] The only thing more disgraceful is anyone actually thinking the NBA has an image anymore to ruin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I had a ton of respect for Melo get thrown out of the window. He sucker punched a NY Knicks rookie nobody who was playing because Isaih was pissed that DEN was running up the score and he wanted to send a "message". He then had the gall to run away to his bench after he threw the punch. Bottom line is, would you ever think about Michael Jordan doing something like this> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Totally agree. What I think is funny is that (and maybe I'm jumping the gun here but my gut says no) there are a whole bunch of people here who look at this fight and say: "That's why I hate the NBA" "It's just a league full of thugs" "I won't watch anymore" Yet, many of these same people are HUGE hockey fans. The situation drips with hypocrisy. Take this scenario: Dude takes a cheap hit to the head or from behind. Teammates come to his aid and start shoving each other. It even escalates to the point where a pair of players circle each other and start throwing punches, pulling jerseys and beating ass. Example A: The players are wearing skates and sweaters. Example B: The players are wearing shorts and sneakers. Which is worse? Well, while the players in example A will most likely actually fight (blood drawn, multiple *real* blows landed), there will be a penalty. Example B, a news shtstorm, suspensions exceeding a dozen games and an increased perception that there is something wrong with the NBA. Like I said, maybe I'm jumping the gun here...but I'd bet my last dollar that half of all hockey fans will click on Sportscenter tomorrow morning, see this fight and shake their heads while they complain that the NBA is full of thugs. Then a hockey highlight will follow and they will cheer at what a badass fight took place. 868743[/snapback] Exactly!! I will be the a-hole who says it: the reaction of some people (whether the realize it or not) is motivated by race. Ok, I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Absolutely not. Race has NOTHING to do with it. Last I checked, all men were created equal. And therefore bad behavior by one person is not more acceptable than the same bad behavior by another. The majority of players in the NBA are black. It then stands to reason that the majority of the bad guys in the NBA are also black. Thats not racism. Thats reality. If Carmelo was any other race, my outrage would be the same. This fight is a microcasm of what is wrong with the NBA. The tip of the iceberg. Kobe Bryant - Accused of Rape Jayson Wiliams - Manslaughter A.I. - Gun and Assault charges Jason Kidd - Domestic Abuse The list goes on and on....and this carries over to the court. The whole culture of the NBA is a disaster. There needs to be a culture shift before the NBA can again be a sport i'll watch. But its worth saying. Show me the white rapist in the NBA. Show me the white guy accused of domestic abuse. Show me the white murder. Show me the white guy who gets arrested on gun charges. I'm sure there is some you can name, because its THE NBA CULTURE, but I cant think of any off the top of my head. The NFL...better get its act in gear. Ray Lewis, Rae Carruth, Terrell Owens, Marcus Vick, Sean Taylor, and now possibly Tank Johnson. Yes. I know. All Black. Is this racism? No. Show me a white guy in the NFL who has been brought up on murder charges, spit in someones face or pointed a gun at someone in public and I will deplore those acts as vigorously as I do the above list. I cant think of any off the top of my head. Now, the NHL is a little different story. Fighting is accepted by the league. It is part of the leagues history. Its part of every game. And it is very often done between two players who are friends and respect each other. Now, there are thugs in the NHL as well. Bertuzzi and McSorley come to mind. And there are players out there TRYING to injure players. Thats no more respectable than Collins on the Knicks yesterday. But again, show me the murder. Show me the spitter. Show me the public displays of firearms. Making the argument that Fighting is acceptable in Hockey therefore it should be acceptable in all sports, is like saying that since fighting is acceptable in Boxing, then its acceptable in WalMart over a PS3. So to reiterate one more time. Bad behavior is bad behavior. I dont care what race you are. If you kill someone. If you spit in someones face. If you irresponsibly use firearms. You are a bad person. Period. What carmello did was wrong. What all 10 guys on the court did was wrong. Its not murder or gun charges, but its still wrong. But in the case of the NBA, it represents a bigger problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I won't be LSI no more once I graduate. I got accepted to SUNY Oneonta so I got to create a new name. 868737[/snapback] I'm guessing Oneonta ignored your score on the english part of your SAT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 For a punch? Seriously? 868723[/snapback] He should be suspended for throwing a punch and then hitting reverse and running across the court backwards. What a complete kitty. If you don't want to fight, don't sucker punch people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 If you don't want to fight, don't sucker punch people. 869434[/snapback] Or sucker punch them hard and knock them clean out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Well said. Totally agree. What I think is funny is that (and maybe I'm jumping the gun here but my gut says no) there are a whole bunch of people here who look at this fight and say: "That's why I hate the NBA" "It's just a league full of thugs" "I won't watch anymore" Yet, many of these same people are HUGE hockey fans. The situation drips with hypocrisy. Take this scenario: Dude takes a cheap hit to the head or from behind. Teammates come to his aid and start shoving each other. It even escalates to the point where a pair of players circle each other and start throwing punches, pulling jerseys and beating ass. Example A: The players are wearing skates and sweaters. Example B: The players are wearing shorts and sneakers. Which is worse? Well, while the players in example A will most likely actually fight (blood drawn, multiple *real* blows landed), there will be a penalty. Example B, a news shtstorm, suspensions exceeding a dozen games and an increased perception that there is something wrong with the NBA. Like I said, maybe I'm jumping the gun here...but I'd bet my last dollar that half of all hockey fans will click on Sportscenter tomorrow morning, see this fight and shake their heads while they complain that the NBA is full of thugs. Then a hockey highlight will follow and they will cheer at what a badass fight took place. 868743[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Or sucker punch them hard and knock them clean out. 869441[/snapback] If the first thing you do after throwing a punch is run like hell, you probably have a pretty good idea that your punches aren't knocking anyone out. That would be another rule: If you think people will confuse your punches with being hit in the face with a flying gummy bear, you probably shouldn't be throwing punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Just wondering ... has anyone here not been in a fight? Ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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