TDRupp Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 In the "Sunday Drive" article in the Buffalo News today, the writer said the Bills should be rethinking there stance on not Franchising Nate. I believe they are bound to Not Franchise him b/c that was a condition of him signing his 1 yr tender. Anybody know if that is definite, 100% fact? Or can they reneg although I know Marv won't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 In the "Sunday Drive" article in the Buffalo News today, the writer said the Bills should be rethinking there stance on not Franchising Nate. I believe they are bound to Not Franchise him b/c that was a condition of him signing his 1 yr tender. Anybody know if that is definite, 100% fact? Or can they reneg although I know Marv won't... 844990[/snapback] Marv gave him his word that they would not use the franchise tag on him again. It was not part of a contractul agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeeyed Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 im hoping we keep improving and nate actually wants to be here next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'm hoping that was a two-way promise by Marv & Nate... Marv: I promise you won't be tagged if you sign a fair LT deal. Nate: I'll sign the LT deal if its fair & the team is headed in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 The guy has come to play the last 3 games but what about the the other 7? It just bothers me when some (not all) athletes as their contract time gets closer and closer decide that it's time to raise their game to the level that they want to be paid. If he really cared about the team where was he the second half of last year and the first half of this year. Let him go and spend it on a lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 They better stick by it - we don't need any more reasons for free agents to not sign with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 The guy has come to play the last 3 games but what about the the other 7? It just bothers me when some (not all) athletes as their contract time gets closer and closer decide that it's time to raise their game to the level that they want to be paid. If he really cared about the team where was he the second half of last year and the first half of this year. Let him go and spend it on a lineman. 845160[/snapback] He has been blanketing wide receivers all year long ... heck I dont remember him even giving up a TD yet this season. Just because he isnt flashy doesnt mean he hasnt come to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 He has been blanketing wide receivers all year long ... heck I dont remember him even giving up a TD yet this season. Just because he isnt flashy doesnt mean he hasnt come to play. 845164[/snapback] Here we go. I don't have stats in front of me but I do remember plenty of games last year and this year in which he was beat. He calls himself "The Playmaker" but to me he's never been a shut down corner and for much of last year Mcgee was the better corner. We drafted a lot of DB's which to me means they plan on letting him go. A team out their will over pay. We neen lineman. LMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Here we go. I don't have stats in front of me but I do remember plenty of games last year and this year in which he was beat. He calls himself "The Playmaker" but to me he's never been a shut down corner and for much of last year Mcgee was the better corner. We drafted a lot of DB's which to me means they plan on letting him go. A team out their will over pay. We neen lineman. LMO 845177[/snapback] We have a hell of a lot of capspace next season. Too much not re-sign clements just because we need some immaginary linemen that will solve all our offensive woes. We can't keep affording to let good players go to bring in bargain basement fa's and hope they can replace them. Clements is too valuable to let go and create more holes on our team that we don't need. Unless you're comfortable with kiwaukee thomas and mcgee ::shudders:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Here we go. I don't have stats in front of me but I do remember plenty of games last year and this year in which he was beat. He calls himself "The Playmaker" but to me he's never been a shut down corner and for much of last year Mcgee was the better corner. We drafted a lot of DB's which to me means they plan on letting him go. A team out their will over pay. We neen lineman. LMO 845177[/snapback] Of course he is going to be beat once in a while. Heck, I can show you two times in the past 2 games that Champ Bailey was beat. Have you been to any games this year? If you do go, please just pay attention to Clements all game. You will see him in a different light then when you watch him on TV. The broadcasters dont give him credit when he just blankets receivers all day long. They just pay attention to the 1 or 2 times he gets beat for a 10 yard gain or something. As I said, I cant remember a time all season he has been beat for a TD. Can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 The Bills have been playing Nate off of the WR's for years now, and it's been maddening. He's got the skills to be a man-to-man cover guy and to disrupt WR's' routes coming off the LOS, but they insisted on playing him off. Well the past few weeks he's been manning-up and doing a lot better. I think the Bills will get right of first refusal on any contract offer he gets in FA. Unless they work-out a deal first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-gunner Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Weak pass rush = secondary getting smoked. That has a lot to do with it.I think Nate is a quality CB but would i break the bank to sign him...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Marv gave him his word that they would not use the franchise tag on him again. It was not part of a contractul agreement.844998[/snapback] Are you sure about that? Usually nowadays they have it written into the 1 year franchise contract that they cannot be tagged again next season. I was under the impression that this was the case with NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Marv gave him his word that they would not use the franchise tag on him again. The question becomes is Marv a character guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Brady Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 The question becomes is Marv a character guy? 845239[/snapback] What if Marv doesn't tag him but the oldman does ?? Sorry Nate, but I have orders, I must follow them or lose my job?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 What if Marv doesn't tag him but the oldman does ?? Sorry Nate, but I have orders, I must follow them or lose my job?? 845281[/snapback] From all I've read, if that became the case, Marv would walk. Also, from what he has stated about RW & his relationship with the team management.....RW wouldn't force the issue anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Can we use the Transitional tag? I think we tag him and get a 1st for him from someone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 A True test for a corner is when they are require to cover man 2 man, clemts has excelled in this scheme. WHen they running zone, cover two schemes that is when i see him get "beat." But you dont know if its his fault or the covering safety/ or LB fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Here we go. I don't have stats in front of me but I do remember plenty of games last year and this year in which he was beat. He calls himself "The Playmaker" but to me he's never been a shut down corner and for much of last year Mcgee was the better corner. We drafted a lot of DB's which to me means they plan on letting him go. A team out their will over pay. We neen lineman. LMO 845177[/snapback] Ever heard of Raymond Clayborn? he had hardly any INTs in his career, but was without a doubt one of the best five CBs I've seen in my lifetime. No one threw on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Can we use the Transitional tag? I think we tag him and get a 1st for him from someone.... 845294[/snapback] I was wondering about the 'transitional tag' myself, and found this... Franchise and Transition Tags So from that, it would seem that maybe the best option - depending on what Marv's real aggreement is with Nate - would be the 'non-exclusive franchise tag' where we can either match any offer or receive 2 first round picks. That would be the best of both worlds - it lets Marv 'off the hook' by allowing Nate to negotiate w/other teams, yet gives the Bills the option to match any offer or be guaranteed compensation via draft picks. With the 'transisition tag' we either match, or get nothing. Marv can't just let Clements walk away with no compensation at all, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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