Dibs Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 his point was that this years Bills are no better then last years even though most people thought they would be simply because of the change of GM and coach...dont know what was so hard about that to figure out 840418[/snapback] That's a load of rubbish.... The Defence(new coaches/new system/new players/rookie starters) is still doing heaps better. Overall up from 29th to 21st Rushing up from 31st to 20th Passing about the same up from 19th to 18th. This defence....when the youngsters mature & hopefully with McCargo coming on strong next year is on track to be good. When you consider that that is the area that was focused on last off-season(the 1st off season for this regime), I'd say they are showing signs of having things on track. Offence(in case you have not noticed) is being assessed weekly. 2 weeks ago we get an OL change....this week we get the reigns loosened on JP. I know you guys have your eyes open but since your heads are shoved so far up your asses as to block out all light I understand how everything seems so dark.
Nanker Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 That's a load of rubbish....The Defence(new coaches/new system/new players/rookie starters) is still doing heaps better. Overall up from 29th to 21st Rushing up from 31st to 20th Passing about the same up from 19th to 18th. This defence....when the youngsters mature & hopefully with McCargo coming on strong next year is on track to be good. When you consider that that is the area that was focused on last off-season(the 1st off season for this regime), I'd say they are showing signs of having things on track. Offence(in case you have not noticed) is being assessed weekly. 2 weeks ago we get an OL change....this week we get the reigns loosened on JP. I know you guys have your eyes open but since your heads are shoved so far up your asses as to block out all light I understand how everything seems so dark. 840582[/snapback] What gets me is people that are okay with Williams/Donahoe's first year at 3-13. Sure. THEY deserved a mulliagn - we were in cap jail or some such crap so we had to cut a lot of high priced over-the-hill players to clear the decks for building for the future, and five years later they hadn't gotten above the basement because they screwed around too much with the foundation. Now people want Marv to fix everything in the middle of each week so they can feel better about themselves, so they don't beat the dog/wife/kids following the outcome of a sporting match they have zero control over. I love it when they show players at the end of the game shaking hands. They walk away win or lose and go on to another big payday. Meanwhile the knuckle-dragging fans work overtime on getting ulcers because THEIR team let them down. How sad.
DeLuca1967 Posted November 18, 2006 Author Posted November 18, 2006 That's a load of rubbish....The Defence(new coaches/new system/new players/rookie starters) is still doing heaps better. Overall up from 29th to 21st Rushing up from 31st to 20th Passing about the same up from 19th to 18th. This defence....when the youngsters mature & hopefully with McCargo coming on strong next year is on track to be good. When you consider that that is the area that was focused on last off-season(the 1st off season for this regime), I'd say they are showing signs of having things on track. Offence(in case you have not noticed) is being assessed weekly. 2 weeks ago we get an OL change....this week we get the reigns loosened on JP. I know you guys have your eyes open but since your heads are shoved so far up your asses as to block out all light I understand how everything seems so dark. 840582[/snapback] The rushing defense went from 4.5 yds per carry in 2005 compared to 4.3 this year? Passing defense gave up 205.7 yrds a game in 2005 compared to 213.2 this year? It doesn't look the defense has improved. It's looks like they are right where they were last season.
keepthefaith Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 I'm an idiot 840642[/snapback] Very good. The first step toward solving a personal problem is admitting you have one.
Nanker Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and I am bee-oo-tee-ful!
Beerball Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 "The Bills will be a better team by the coaching/GM changes alone" ? With all the great FA talent 'Super GM' Marv Levy brought in. Let's take a look. W/L PF PA 2005 4-5 142 162 2006 3-6 140 180 With M&M and TD gone how can things be worse? We now have Melvin Fowler, Peerless Price and Larry Tripplett? Is there any FA that Marv signed you would care about if they were cut today? Maybe A-Train? TD tried to sign A-Train the previous year. But A-Train went to Dallas because he thought he would get more reps. 840389[/snapback] your write. woe is us, woe is us. please, bring back TD! please bring back meathead! fuggin joke.
MDH Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 Again I ask. Where are they better? 840576[/snapback] If you'd stop rooting for the Bills they'd be better in the fan intelligence department.
East Brady Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 And not to mention what they did to Ruben Brown. Those assh0les turned found a way to get the fan base against him. Pathetic machinations by the man behind the curtain. I'll never respect TD's body of work here. He whiffed more than he hit. Marv's already chopped about 50% of the players he inherited from that guru of talent. Look for about 30% more to go by next spring, 'cause they're playing themselves out of a job and in some cases out of the league right here and now. 840561[/snapback] Don't tell that to the hot pockets around here......It is much to difficult of a concept to grasp. Something tells me Big Dick carries a Big Stick in the locker room and will not tolerate the kind of crap we witnessed last year ..no crap from the clubhouse! Right on nanker.
Ramius Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 I am a complete douchebag 840642[/snapback] For once, i agree with something you post.
DeLuca1967 Posted November 18, 2006 Author Posted November 18, 2006 For once, i agree with something you post. 840709[/snapback] When I see posts like yours I know I'm right. All you are saying is " I Ramius have nothing to argue against what I am reading. I have no original thoughts so I will attack those who have actual opinions. I am also a proud Republican". I thought it was a simple question. Where are the 2006 Bills better than the 2005 Bills? I am shocked that with so many Levy/Loseman apologists on these message boards that nobody can come up with a legit answer. I see a lot of buzz words like "leadership and direction" thrown around. No body seems to be able to back anything up. The Bills were counting on fans being blind to the truth when the hung Levy's name on the GM door instead of searching the league for a qualified candidate. I can't believe so many of you fell for it.
Cornerville Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 You can all say what you want about Deluca's comments...but at this point, right now, his points have some validity. Now can that change starting tomorrow? Sure...but this team is no different then the ones from the last several years, 2004 excluded.
AJ1 Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 If you'd stop rooting for the Bills they'd be better in the fan intelligence department. 840681[/snapback] Amen, amem, amen. BTW, if I ever agreed with anything DeLuca spewed I'd shoot myself because that would mean, indeed, I'd lost my mind.
Tasker Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 "The Bills will be a better team by the coaching/GM changes alone" ? With all the great FA talent 'Super GM' Marv Levy brought in. Let's take a look. W/L PF PA 2005 4-5 142 162 2006 3-6 140 180 With M&M and TD gone how can things be worse? We now have Melvin Fowler, Peerless Price and Larry Tripplett? Is there any FA that Marv signed you would care about if they were cut today? Maybe A-Train? TD tried to sign A-Train the previous year. But A-Train went to Dallas because he thought he would get more reps. 840389[/snapback] I'm right here. I think we are a better team. Last year we got crushed by a 4-12 Oakland team, lost to a very bad New Orleans team, beat a bad 4-12 Jets team and a terrible Texans team. So four of our games including two of our losses were against teams that picked in the top 6 (and the two worst teams). And only one of our losses (@New England, five points) was close. This year four of our losses are against New England, Chicago, and Indy, all Super Bowl top probables, and two of those were very close to wins, and three of our losses are a field goal or less. Last year through nine we had only played two games against teams that would make the playoffs. So putting up points and record and acting like they are proof we aren't better doesn't make sense to me. We are not good yet, and I'm disappointed with some aspects of our progress. Almost doesn't count, so I don't want to get too caught up on comparing two different bad teams and looking for silver linings. But this team is better than last year's team right now, and more important is younger and learning a new system, and poised to improve. And best of all we have a coach who knows what he is doing and how to keep this team on track, and won't put Holcomb in for the last two games.
Ramius Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 When I see posts like yours I know I'm right. All you are saying is " I Ramius have nothing to argue against what I am reading. I have no original thoughts so I will attack those who have actual opinions. I am also a proud Republican". I thought it was a simple question. Where are the 2006 Bills better than the 2005 Bills? I am shocked that with so many Levy/Loseman apologists on these message boards that nobody can come up with a legit answer. I see a lot of buzz words like "leadership and direction" thrown around. No body seems to be able to back anything up. The Bills were counting on fans being blind to the truth when the hung Levy's name on the GM door instead of searching the league for a qualified candidate. I can't believe so many of you fell for it. 840755[/snapback] The fact that you cant see any difference between the 2005 and 2006 Bills just confirms that you do, in fact, know absolutely nothing about football.
DeLuca1967 Posted November 18, 2006 Author Posted November 18, 2006 I'm right here. I think we are a better team. Last year we got crushed by a 4-12 Oakland team, lost to a very bad New Orleans team, beat a bad 4-12 Jets team and a terrible Texans team. So four of our games including two of our losses were against teams that picked in the top 6 (and the two worst teams). And only one of our losses (@New England, five points) was close. This year four of our losses are against New England, Chicago, and Indy, all Super Bowl top probables, and two of those were very close to wins, and three of our losses are a field goal or less. Last year through nine we had only played two games against teams that would make the playoffs. So putting up points and record and acting like they are proof we aren't better doesn't make sense to me. We are not good yet, and I'm disappointed with some aspects of our progress. Almost doesn't count, so I don't want to get too caught up on comparing two different bad teams and looking for silver linings. But this team is better than last year's team right now, and more important is younger and learning a new system, and poised to improve. And best of all we have a coach who knows what he is doing and how to keep this team on track, and won't put Holcomb in for the last two games. 840805[/snapback] And this year we have 3 out of nine. Over the final seven the Bills will face three teams that are now 3-6. Last Season they beat an 11-5 team (Cincy), a 10-6 team (KC) and a 9-7 team (Miami). This season? None of their wins (3) are against teams with winning records. And again I read things like "poised to improve" or "A coach who knows what he's doing". Please. Tell me what you are basing all of this on. The coach is 3-6 which falls right in line whith everything else he has done in the NFL. And what does "poised to inprove" mean? Shouldn''t there be some small improvement this season. I see bad play calling and dumb penalties. They continue to shuffle the O-line. These are the same things we all saw the past five years. Considering the offense was the worst in franchise history last season. They were "poised to improve" this year, where is it? No Joke. I want to see it. I hate dreading Sunday afternoons. I want to be able to enjoy Bills games again. I just can't sit there and lie to myself. I need soemthing tangible. Catch phrases and slogans don't do it for me.
DeLuca1967 Posted November 18, 2006 Author Posted November 18, 2006 The fact that you cant see any difference between the 2005 and 2006 Bills just confirms that you do, in fact, know absolutely nothing about football. 840830[/snapback] The fact that you wrote this post confirms you can't explain the difference between the 2005 and 2006 Bills. So why don't you go sit in the corner and let the adults talk for a while. Grab yourself a pudding or something.
Ramius Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 The fact that you wrote this post confirms you can't explain the difference between the 2005 and 2006 Bills. So why don't you go sit in the corner and let the adults talk for a while. Grab yourself a pudding or something. 840843[/snapback] Dealing with you is like dealing with holcombs arm. I can explain why i am right, but you wont understand it. Reading comprehension, like football analysis is definitely not one of your strong points. Why dont you go back to bashing the sabres and telling everyone how terrible they are? Seeing how you were right on that one, huh?
TigerJ Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 I'm here. I think the Bills are better off in the long run. Yes, their record is one worse at this point in the season. However, the Bills have changed offensive and defensive systems with the new coaching staff. It takes most teams some time to get comfortable with new systems so they are not having to think about what to do, and instead can react. The fact that the Bills are young exacerbates the problem, because young players tend to make more mistakes. Mularkey clearly was not able to set a direction and then stick with it. He named a starting QB, then yanked him. He said he was going to run the ball, then ended up passing it. The word was that Jerry Gray had alienated most of the defensive players, and that Mularkey had little communication with his assistants. He didn't trust Tom Clements, yanking play calling responsibilities from his coordinator. I think as the Bills gradually acquire young players who fit the new system and help them mature, they will get much better. I believe the Bills now have some direction and confident, calm coaches, and it is just a matter of time before they click.
The Big Cat Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 Yes, free agent acquisitions generally have not worked out well. I still don't understand why the Bills paid Price such a large signing bonus (or why they signed him). I like our draft choices and many are getting valuable playing time. I also think that Levy and Jauron have been a breath of fresh air compared to the TD regime. I do think that Marv needs to take a hard look at the Bills' free agent talent evaluators. I believe they are the same people that TD hired, and they have made poor recommendations over a number of years. It is time to get some new people. 840410[/snapback] I think they were openly taking a gamble with Price, bringing in a once successful Buffalo receiver in an attempt to curry some much needed support from a dejected and disenfranchised fan base...sadly, it's tough to say that ANY of our receivers have had a fair shake this year thanks to Buffalo's inability to establish an effective passing attack. Granted, when Price's number has been called (excluding his insane touchdown catch/run) he has not made the plays folks expected him to. He was a long shot, and it hasn't paid off yet...but it isn't neccesarily a COMPLETE bust.
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