PromoTheRobot Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If you want a perfect example of the clusterf**k our O-line has become, go back to the 2nd quarter yesterday. Mike Gandy is blocking his man when he sees Dwight Freeney go wide. The TE picks up Freeney but Gandy doesn't know that. Instead he stops blocking and turns to his right to see what was going on. At that moment, the guy Gandy was blocking runs right past him untouched and sacks Losman. I'm not saying JP Losman is the answer, but pick any QB in the NFL and put him behind our O-line and the results will be exactly the same. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZone78 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If you want a perfect example of the clusterf**k our O-line has become, go back to the 2nd quarter yesterday. Mike Gandy is blocking his man when he sees Dwight Freeney go wide. The TE picks up Freeney but Gandy doesn't know that. Instead he stops blocking and turns to his right to see what was going on. At that moment, the guy Gandy was blocking runs right past him untouched and sacks Losman. I'm not saying JP Losman is the answer, but pick any QB in the NFL and put him behind our O-line and the results will be exactly the same. PTR 835226[/snapback] I'm glad somebody else caught that........I was screaming at my TV yesterday. JP would have had a pocket to step up into as Freeney was coming around the corner and was looking poised to throw long on that particular play. Not saying the play would have been successful or anything like that....but how does a 6 year veteran take his eyes off his blocker to look around and get his QB sacked is beyond stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbills17 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If you want a perfect example of the clusterf**k our O-line has become, go back to the 2nd quarter yesterday. Mike Gandy is blocking his man when he sees Dwight Freeney go wide. The TE picks up Freeney but Gandy doesn't know that. Instead he stops blocking and turns to his right to see what was going on. At that moment, the guy Gandy was blocking runs right past him untouched and sacks Losman. I'm not saying JP Losman is the answer, but pick any QB in the NFL and put him behind our O-line and the results will be exactly the same. PTR 835226[/snapback] I disagree. Watch the other QBs around the league avoid the rush, there are very few great O-lines these days. The good QBs (like Brady for example), who aren't even very mobile, take one quick step up, and lose rushers or buy time. Watch any game. It's incredible how the Saints' O-line turned good overnight, and the signing of Drew Brees was just a coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 He got his training from reuben brown. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I disagree. Watch the other QBs around the league avoid the rush, there are very few great O-lines these days. The good QBs (like Brady for example), who aren't even very mobile, take one quick step up, and lose rushers or buy time. Watch any game. It's incredible how the Saints' O-line turned good overnight, and the signing of Drew Brees was just a coincidence? 835307[/snapback] No doubt it's a combination of the two....a chicken or the egg kind of thing. But the play he was referring to is different. If he stepped up in the pocket he would have saved McFarland a couple steps and that's it. Indy ran a stunt. When Gandy didn't have anyone to block immediately off the snap he turned and watched Peters drive Freeney wide. McFarland ducked into the gap and nailed Losman before Gandy even turned back to his position. It's a freaking stunt...teams run them from JV football and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbills17 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 No doubt it's a combination of the two....a chicken or the egg kind of thing. But the play he was referring to is different. If he stepped up in the pocket he would have saved McFarland a couple steps and that's it. Indy ran a stunt. When Gandy didn't have anyone to block immediately off the snap he turned and watched Peters drive Freeney wide. McFarland ducked into the gap and nailed Losman before Gandy even turned back to his position. It's a freaking stunt...teams run them from JV football and on. 835313[/snapback] I'm not disputing that play, but he says put any QB behind our O-line and the results would be exactly the same? That's completely wrong. There are few QBs in the league as bad as JP as far as stepping up or avoiding a pass rush (or getting the ball out and making quick reads). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 While I had the same initial reaction to that play, upon further thought it just reinforced the lack of trust and cohesion on the line. Freeney definitely got a great jump on Peters and was sprinting towards Losman. That's when Gandy gave up on his man to check back if Peters needed help. But Peters recovered and gave enough of a nudge to Freeney to allow Losman a step away from the pressure. In that split second, Gandy's guy rushed past and clobbered Losman. No cohesion, no trust = clobbered QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheZone78 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I'm not disputing that play, but he says put any QB behind our O-line and the results would be exactly the same? That's completely wrong. There are few QBs in the league as bad as JP as far as stepping up or avoiding a pass rush (or getting the ball out and making quick reads). 835359[/snapback] Watch that play again. JP WAS stepping up, right into the oncoming arms of a disengaged Booger McFarland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 He got his training from reuben brown. :-) 835312[/snapback] how are the Bears doing these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Gandy must have compromising pictures of someone at OBD.I can't understand why this stiff is still on the team.... 835564[/snapback] It must be something to do with Jauron and it goes way back to Chicagoi= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 While I had the same initial reaction to that play, upon further thought it just reinforced the lack of trust and cohesion on the line. Freeney definitely got a great jump on Peters and was sprinting towards Losman. That's when Gandy gave up on his man to check back if Peters needed help. But Peters recovered and gave enough of a nudge to Freeney to allow Losman a step away from the pressure. In that split second, Gandy's guy rushed past and clobbered Losman. No cohesion, no trust = clobbered QB 835437[/snapback] Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 how are the Bears doing these days? 835481[/snapback] Coping with the collective losses of Shelton, Gandy, and Villarial by winning lots of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 It was only one play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 It was only one play 835649[/snapback] That may be true. This was the only play that was caught by the replay camera. But it was just so mind-boggling to see Gandy stop blocking and let his man blow by him. What was Gandy thinking? The guy he was blocking would just vanish? Truthfully the whole line sucks out loud. People say Jauron doesn't trust JP to throw. What he really means is that he doesn't trust the O-line to block for more than a nanosecond. I mean orange traffic barrels would block better. At least you have to run around them. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 B'gals have suffered many key injuries this season offense and defense, but they have stockpiled very good OL talent. I've said it for the past 2 years. Sign the B'gals T/G Scott Kooistra this off-season. He's re-signed for two minimum 1 year contracts since his 7th round 2003 selection. Also sign DE Jonathan Fanene off of their practice squad...if he regains health. Geathers and Smith have 7 sacks apiece so far...Fanene's the player they will promote to the starting defense if Justin Smith moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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