TheZone78 Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 thats the closest any leaf is going to be to the cup for a loooooong time. 823166[/snapback] This being said by a Buffalo Sabres fan. I know I complain everytime I go to the HSBC Arena and constantly complain about all the Stanley Cup banners that block my view of the ice..... RRRRRRRRRight..........
beerme1 Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 Oh, sorry, so you Leaf fans will be converting before your seasons over this year? 823252[/snapback] Some made the permanent switch last year. Except for these games. No self respecting hockey fan can say that he is a Leaf fan when that team still employs Wade Belak.
meazza Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 Some made the permanent switch last year. Except for these games.No self respecting hockey fan can say that he is a Leaf fan when that team still employs Wade Belak. 823285[/snapback] What a joke. I stuck with Ronald Corey and you can't stick with Wade Belak?
apuszczalowski Posted November 2, 2006 Posted November 2, 2006 This being said by a Buffalo Sabres fan. I know I complain everytime I go to the HSBC Arena and constantly complain about all the Stanley Cup banners that block my view of the ice..... RRRRRRRRRight.......... 823280[/snapback] Hey man, we've been to the dance twice since coming into the league (almost 3) How many have the Leafs been too since the Sabres came into the league? Its nice to talk about all those cups won when you had a 1:6 chance of winning one every year
TheZone78 Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Hey man, we've been to the dance twice since coming into the league (almost 3) How many have the Leafs been too since the Sabres came into the league? Its nice to talk about all those cups won when you had a 1:6 chance of winning one every year 823307[/snapback] You guys have been around since 1970 (I think)....you've had a pretty good chance to win one as well. Fact remains you haven't and the Leafs have raised Stanley's Mug 11 times........ Being a Bills fan, I argue with my friends who is more likely to win a championship first the Bills or the Leafs........we all agreed the Leafs.... Why do my teams suck?!?!?
apuszczalowski Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 You guys have been around since 1970 (I think)....you've had a pretty good chance to win one as well. Fact remains you haven't and the Leafs have raised Stanley's Mug 11 times........ 823751[/snapback] Thats right the Sabres have had plenty of time to win one, but so have the Leafs, in the time the Sabres have been in the league, The Laughs haven't even been in the finals. Its hard to compare your cup wins to Buffalo when they were all won before the Sabres where even a team, They were also won when the league had 6 teams.
millbank Posted November 3, 2006 Author Posted November 3, 2006 Thats right the Sabres have had plenty of time to win one, but so have the Leafs, in the time the Sabres have been in the league, The Laughs haven't even been in the finals. Its hard to compare your cup wins to Buffalo when they were all won before the Sabres where even a team, They were also won when the league had 6 teams. 823769[/snapback] You are seriously wanting to invalidate hockey from 1912 – 70. I gather you have visited the hockey hall of fame. Have at least read of the great Montreal Canadians, Bruins, Rangers, Red Wings, Blackhawk’s, and Maple Leafs, first called the Blue Shirts. Do you do the same with Babe Ruth in Baseball, with Bill Russell in Basketball, with Ali in Boxing, Is it only about what you have seen as being valid.. You might enjoy the season. Time will come when the Sabres are a middle of the pack team or lower, it’s the nature of sport, these days you will hold precious the time you seen your team do well, they very well may even win a Cup, and you know the nature of life is down the road a young man will be telling you, its not valid, how will you answer?
apuszczalowski Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 You are seriously wanting to invalidate hockey from 1912 – 70. I gather you have visited the hockey hall of fame. Have at least read of the great Montreal Canadians, Bruins, Rangers, Red Wings, Blackhawk’s, and Maple Leafs, first called the Blue Shirts. Do you do the same with Babe Ruth in Baseball, with Bill Russell in Basketball, with Ali in Boxing, Is it only about what you have seen as being valid..You might enjoy the season. Time will come when the Sabres are a middle of the pack team or lower, it’s the nature of sport, these days you will hold precious the time you seen your team do well, they very well may even win a Cup, and you know the nature of life is down the road a young man will be telling you, its not valid, how will you answer? 823823[/snapback] No I'm not invalidating hockey during that time, I just don't validate Leafs fans that want to throw it in the face of Sabres fans that they have so many cups when none of them have come in the time that the Sabres have even been in the league. If the Sabres had won the cup in the 70's against the Flyers, or in 99 against the Stars, I wouldn't go up to a Minnesota Wild fan or Nashville Preditors and use the amount of Cups Buffalo won in an arguement against them. That is the only arguement you get from a Leafs fan when they are arguing with a Sabres fan, "Yeah, well atleast we won the cup", or "Yeah well how many cups have the Sabres won?" Its not a valid arguement when the team you are arguing for has never won the cup (let alone been to the finals) since the other team has been in the league.
Taro T Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 You guys have been around since 1970 (I think)....you've had a pretty good chance to win one as well. Fact remains you haven't and the Leafs have raised Stanley's Mug 11 times........ Being a Bills fan, I argue with my friends who is more likely to win a championship first the Bills or the Leafs........we all agreed the Leafs.... Why do my teams suck?!?!? 823751[/snapback] Why don't you count the 2 SC's they won before they were called the Loafs? I would expect a Laff fan to know a LITTLE bit about his team's history. I guess not. To answer your question, because you're a Loaf fan.
TheZone78 Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 No I'm not invalidating hockey during that time, I just don't validate Leafs fans that want to throw it in the face of Sabres fans that they have so many cups when none of them have come in the time that the Sabres have even been in the league. If the Sabres had won the cup in the 70's against the Flyers, or in 99 against the Stars, I wouldn't go up to a Minnesota Wild fan or Nashville Preditors and use the amount of Cups Buffalo won in an arguement against them. That is the only arguement you get from a Leafs fan when they are arguing with a Sabres fan, "Yeah, well atleast we won the cup", or "Yeah well how many cups have the Sabres won?" Its not a valid arguement when the team you are arguing for has never won the cup (let alone been to the finals) since the other team has been in the league. 823831[/snapback] If the Sabres were formed in 1995 I'd agree with your comments.....but the Sabres have been around for 36 years. Pretty weak argument.
apuszczalowski Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 If the Sabres were formed in 1995 I'd agree with your comments.....but the Sabres have been around for 36 years. Pretty weak argument. 823840[/snapback] How is it weak? If the Leafs would have won a Stanley Cup (or even been in the Finals) in those 36 years, you might have an arguement. Maybe that total would have been different had Buffalo been an original 6 team, maybe they would be tied with Toronto in SC wins. But no matter how you look at it, since Buffalo has been in the league (the amount of time they have had to win the cup) the leafs and Sabres have the same amount of championships
Alaska Darin Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 You are seriously wanting to invalidate hockey from 1912 – 70. Invalidate it? Nah, just put it in perspective. It was a hell of alot easier to win a Cup when there was ONE FIFTH the teams and market sizes were relatively equal. You might enjoy the season. Time will come when the Sabres are a middle of the pack team or lower, it’s the nature of sport, these days you will hold precious the time you seen your team do well, they very well may even win a Cup, and you know the nature of life is down the road a young man will be telling you, its not valid, how will you answer? 823823[/snapback] There will be a difference when that happens too. There will be no teams that'll be outspending our little team by 300% because they can't develop their own players.
Taro T Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 You are seriously wanting to invalidate hockey from 1912 – 70. I gather you have visited the hockey hall of fame. Have at least read of the great Montreal Canadians, Bruins, Rangers, Red Wings, Blackhawk’s, and Maple Leafs, first called the Blue Shirts. Do you do the same with Babe Ruth in Baseball, with Bill Russell in Basketball, with Ali in Boxing, Is it only about what you have seen as being valid..You might enjoy the season. Time will come when the Sabres are a middle of the pack team or lower, it’s the nature of sport, these days you will hold precious the time you seen your team do well, they very well may even win a Cup, and you know the nature of life is down the road a young man will be telling you, its not valid, how will you answer? 823823[/snapback] Which great Blackhawks team are you referring to? The '37-'38 squad that won the Stanley Cup with a losing record? Their other 2 SC winners that were not more than 5 games over 0.500. That '61 team that won the SC was good but not great. Or any of their other teams prior to '67, which was the 1st year they actually had very good teams. Trouble is, none of those very good teams has had any more success than Buffalo or Toronto (i.e., they haven't brought home a SC either).
TheZone78 Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Why don't you count the 2 SC's they won before they were called the Loafs? I would expect a Laff fan to know a LITTLE bit about his team's history. I guess not. To answer your question, because you're a Loaf fan. 823837[/snapback] I guess we're done with the intelligent debate on here. Thank you for your comments. I'll take them under advisement.
Assquatch Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Blow Leafs Blow 823092[/snapback] The sad part of that picture is the guy wearing the jersey has a Flyers hat on. The last championship in Philadelphia in any sport (they have teams in all four major sports) was when exactly?
TheZone78 Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Invalidate it? Nah, just put it in perspective. It was a hell of alot easier to win a Cup when there was ONE FIFTH the teams and market sizes were relatively equal. 823844[/snapback] Tell that to the Rangers!!!
Taro T Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 If the Sabres were formed in 1995 I'd agree with your comments.....but the Sabres have been around for 36 years. Pretty weak argument. 823840[/snapback] Out of curiosity, have the Loafs won a championship in YOUR lifetime?
Alaska Darin Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 Tell that to the Rangers!!! 823857[/snapback] The exception that proves the rule.
Taro T Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 I guess we're done with the intelligent debate on here. Thank you for your comments. I'll take them under advisement. 823853[/snapback] You still haven't answered my question why you don't consider the SC that the Arenas won, nor why you don't consider the SC that the St. Pats won in your beloved team's total.
Alaska Darin Posted November 3, 2006 Posted November 3, 2006 You still haven't answered my question why you don't consider the SC that the Arenas won, nor why you don't consider the SC that the St. Pats won in your beloved team's total. 823866[/snapback] Well, he did say he was done with intelligent debate.
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