Chef Jim Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'm not exactly ecstatic at seeing my hard-earned cash being taken either, but if I think the money is going to be used to build a better society then I believe it to be a price worth paying. 824420[/snapback] But that's what I'm using my money for. So you're trusting the government to do the right thing with your money? Good one! There are some truly destitute people out there that could use my help. That's why I give to charities. However there is a large percentage of the population that is just plain lazy. So you're saying some of MY hard earned money should go to them? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I'm not exactly ecstatic at seeing my hard-earned cash being taken either, but if I think the money is going to be used to build a better society then I believe it to be a price worth paying. 824420[/snapback] I'm curious as to exactly what aspect of the Washington political process you feel results in money going to make a better society. Because what I see is money going to those with the most political leverage. (Consider agricultural subsidies for example.) The larger the government's role in the economy becomes, the more the messed-up political process in Washington will determine winners and losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 "Denmark has won plaudits for running a healthy economy. Its employment levels are the envy of many industrialised countries and it accommodates a competitive economic edge as well as a generous social security system. " . . . "The Swedes still enjoy an advanced welfare system, and their standard of living and life expectancy are almost second to none. " Joe Six Pack's response to this was a slam dunk. But I'll add to what he wrote by saying that I know a woman who lived in Sweden. She had a low income while she was there. Paid high taxes. In fact, her taxes were so high that by the time she'd finished paying them, her rent, and her utilities, it was really tough to buy food. In a bad month, the last week or so would have no money at all for food, or for anything else. But if going hungry ever caused her medical problems, at least the hospital stay would be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Joe Six Pack's response to this was a slam dunk. But I'll add to what he wrote by saying that I know a woman who lived in Sweden. She had a low income while she was there. Paid high taxes. In fact, her taxes were so high that by the time she'd finished paying them, her rent, and her utilities, it was really tough to buy food. In a bad month, the last week or so would have no money at all for food, or for anything else. But if going hungry ever caused her medical problems, at least the hospital stay would be free. 824544[/snapback] Since she had a low income and a free hospital stay, why didnt they just tie her tubes while she was there? Its better for society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Listen, you just don't have to suffer through the outrage of being undertaxed. By all means, please send in all of your money - or however much you think they deserve - to the government of your choice. Just don't volunteer them to take mine. Please take up the fight and get all your friends to send in their money too. Don't stand still for this injustice. You have a right to be taxed and also a right to give generously to the taxman of your choice. It'll work. Don't just stand by passively and be continually humiliated by the fact that your paycheck is too fat. Dig down a bit and give more. It'll satisfy your soul knowing that you've given so much to the eminently worthy cause of wealth distribution. And don't forget to stop in regularly at your local emergency ward, high school and soup kitchen to be recognized for your generosity to humanity. While you're at it you can resign from all the civic groups and organizations that you've generously contributed your cash and time to over the past several decades. Once your additional tax contributions trickle down through the efficient government bureaucracy to the truly needy that they've identified through their neutrality to special-interest-groups well, paradise can't be far away. And then you can bask in the glorious vision of the new socialist state you're working so hard to create. 824425[/snapback] Wow, way to exagerate everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 But that's what I'm using my money for. So you're trusting the government to do the right thing with your money? Good one! There are some truly destitute people out there that could use my help. That's why I give to charities. However there is a large percentage of the population that is just plain lazy. So you're saying some of MY hard earned money should go to them? I think not. 824473[/snapback] See this is the thing. Yes... As much as you don't like it, not everybody or individual has a total say in everything... Boo hoo hoo, too freaking bad... As soon as you get on with the concept and that lack of control... You will be forking it over Chefy... Now don't go overboard and over react, it is chump change to most... And I am not asking for unchecked lack of control... Then again, giving one dime to some equals unchecked control of their fiscal control... To them, I will just plainly call "tightwads." When it comes to pooling money for a common cause, 1000 people will have a 100 different ways to put that money to good use... Most of the time, stuck in their own pocket... Wrap that up in words like: Freedom Liberty Choice Etc... And you got stalemate... Oh... Yes, call me a socialist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Since she had a low income and a free hospital stay, why didnt they just tie her tubes while she was there? Its better for society. 824567[/snapback] The next time you think it's a good idea to post . . . don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 The next time you think it's a good idea to post . . . don't. 824825[/snapback] Practice what you preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 The next time you think it's a good idea to post . . . don't. 824825[/snapback] Now if you only take your own advice, the intelligence level in this place would rise dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Now if you only take your own advice, the intelligence level in this place would rise dramatically. 825870[/snapback] But if you remove HA, True Blue Bill and Joey Balls, it actually is highly intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 But if you remove HA, True Blue Bill and Joey Balls, it actually is highly intelligent. 825905[/snapback] Actually this thread is more intelligent than the general population 1/4 of American's believe 9/11 was caused by the government. South Park used those numbers and a couple Raging Clues to prove that 25% (atleast) of America is retarded 16 people have contributed to this thread thus far HA + TBB + JB = 3 3/16 = 18.75% 18.75% < 25% Therefore, somehow this thread is more intelligent than the general population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Actually this thread is more intelligent than the general population 1/4 of American's believe 9/11 was caused by the government. South Park used those numbers and a couple Raging Clues to prove that 25% (atleast) of America is retarded 16 people have contributed to this thread thus far HA + TBB + JB = 3 3/16 = 18.75% 18.75% < 25% Therefore, somehow this thread is more intelligent than the general population 825972[/snapback] You are a stats master my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 But if you remove HA, True Blue Bill and Joey Balls, it actually is highly intelligent. 825905[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 826302[/snapback] Yeah keep slapping your head if that makes you think you have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yeah keep slapping your head if that makes you think you have a point. 826350[/snapback] Slapping head = destroys brain cells. This lowers their number of brain cells, and based on statistics, since the parent has less brain cells their kids would too. Therefore, head slappers should be forbidden to reproduce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yeah keep slapping your head if that makes you think you have a point. 826350[/snapback] Other than the fact that you have zero ability to evaluate intelligence, your post didn't have much of a point either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Other than the fact that you have zero ability to evaluate intelligence, your post didn't have much of a point either. 826369[/snapback] So will my wife not be getting a grant then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yeah keep slapping your head if that makes you think you have a point. 826350[/snapback] Slapping head = destroys brain cells. 826355[/snapback] And he didn't have many to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungee Jumper Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Other than the fact that you have zero ability to evaluate intelligence, your post didn't have much of a point either. 826369[/snapback] It's not hard, all he has to do is ask everyone what their kids want to be when they grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Exactly. The label. Socialism seems to equate to satanism in the eyes of many Americans. In reality, all forms of socialism do not necessarily lead to the apocalypse. For decades the politics of the Scandinavian nations have been dominated by democratic socialist parties and this did not lead to the collapse of civilization, far from it. Problem is, they have the highest tax rates in the world. You feel like spending the money you earned (at least the portion we get now anyway, which is far too little IMHO) or turning it over for someone else to spend. Personally, I'll keep it and spend it any way I please. Don't like that, then go earn some yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts