Chilly Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Dear ESPN, This is why you don't hype players to be superstars in the NFL before they get to the NFL. He isn't the "best running back" ever yet, even though you wanted and wanted and wanted him to be. Please realize that unlike the rest of the media, the sports media doesn't have nearly the effect on how professionals act. At least hype the players that have already proven to have done something in the pro leagues, rather then touting rookies as the best ever. Sincerely, BlueFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 He isn't the "best running back" ever yet, 821526[/snapback] He's not even a good RB yet. They have to work really hard to get him 15 touches a game and he's never been a good runner between the tackles. What happens when he gets to the NFL and can't hit the edge every time he touches the ball like he did in college? He averages 3.0 yards per carry. The guy is sensational in open space...unfortunately for him with the speed of the NFL there isn't that much open space to be found unless you're a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 He's not even a good RB yet. They have to work really hard to get him 15 touches a game and he's never been a good runner between the tackles. What happens when he gets to the NFL and can't hit the edge every time he touches the ball like he did in college? He averages 3.0 yards per carry. The guy is sensational in open space...unfortunately for him with the speed of the NFL there isn't that much open space to be found unless you're a WR. 821531[/snapback] I agree. Ive always thought that Reggie had another thing comin' when he elevated to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 He is on pace to have a 96 receptions for about 700 yards this year as a rookie ... he is also a BACKUP running back. Their are teams who draft WR's in the 1st round to HOPE they get about 60 receptions. You can keep whatever bias you have for not liking Bush, but he is an EXTREMELY valuable player. P.S. Yards Pery Carry increases with the more attempts you get at rushing the ball. YPC for some players are only high because they get a few long runs, but VERY FEW running backs consistantly get more than 3.3 YPC consistantly. Larry Johnson for one ... his YPC is 3.7 ... but thats because has 4 runs of 20+ yards. His CONSISTANT YPC is really about 3.3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 The Saints have allowed the fewest sacks in the league this year, 8 in 7 games, after allowing 41 last season. The QB change was important of course, but Bush is also a major reason for that. There are very few players in the NFL who command the attention of the defense like he does. The Saints "mirror" all of Bush's plays so that he can line up on either side of the field, depending on the defense. If Brees perceives pressure coming from the right, and Bush is lined up left, Brees will send him in motion to the strong side, forcing the defense to call off or alter their blitz and coverage. Not to mention, when Brees does feel pressure, Bush's hands are as reliable as any back around. Bush is 21 years old. He is 6th in the NFL with 42 receptions as a backup RB, and is used as a designed decoy most of the time. He has already returned one game winning punt, and his career is 7 games old. I'm not sure what people were expecting from the kid. Of course this isn't the NCAA, and he's not going to average the 8.7 yards per carry that he averaged last year. I'm not saying he's the second coming, but seven games into his career, I think he's done alright for himself. I know Houston wishes they had him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 .....I'm not saying he's the second coming, but seven games into his career, I think he's done alright for himself. I know Houston wishes they had him. 821583[/snapback] But the point Bluefire was making is that the media were hyping him as the second coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 But the point Bluefire was making is that the media were hyping him as the second coming. 821590[/snapback] Ahh, but not even Jesus was performing miracles from the craddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 But the point Bluefire was making is that the media were hyping him as the second coming. 821590[/snapback] He was at least in the conversation when picking the greatest game changer to ever come out of college, in any era. His college team had one of the greatest three-year runs in history during his three years there. But the fans and media aren't supposed to get excited about his coming to the next level? Bush is a very electrifying player and has a chance to have a very successful career. I think that's where the hype comes from. Seven games into his career, he's a likely Rookie of the Year candidate, even while splitting carries. He has 42 receptions. He returned a 4th quarter punt 65 yards to win a game. Running for the tough yards, which even ESPN (gasp!) told us would be difficult, has been difficult. What's the problem with the guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 He's not even a good RB yet. They have to work really hard to get him 15 touches a game and he's never been a good runner between the tackles. What happens when he gets to the NFL and can't hit the edge every time he touches the ball like he did in college? He averages 3.0 yards per carry. The guy is sensational in open space...unfortunately for him with the speed of the NFL there isn't that much open space to be found unless you're a WR. 821531[/snapback] Being #1 in college football means nothing in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 He was at least in the conversation when picking the greatest game changer to ever come out of college, in any era. His college team had one of the greatest three-year runs in history during his three years there. But the fans and media aren't supposed to get excited about his coming to the next level? Bush is a very electrifying player and has a chance to have a very successful career. I think that's where the hype comes from. Seven games into his career, he's a likely Rookie of the Year candidate, even while splitting carries. He has 42 receptions. He returned a 4th quarter punt 65 yards to win a game. Running for the tough yards, which even ESPN (gasp!) told us would be difficult, has been difficult. What's the problem with the guy? 821602[/snapback] The way I read Bluefires post it backs up Bush. He did not say that Bush has not produced.....simply that the media hype placed an unreasonable expectation on him. IMO Bush has been great as a rookie but I'm sure that many(basing their expectations on what the media say) feel he is a bit disappointing. Heck, there was such a big deal with the wait before his first TD.....he's a rookie....there should not have been such a focus on him to produce in every area of the game so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 The way I read Bluefires post it backs up Bush. He did not say that Bush has not produced.....simply that the media hype placed an unreasonable expectation on him. IMO Bush has been great as a rookie but I'm sure that many(basing their expectations on what the media say) feel he is a bit disappointing. Heck, there was such a big deal with the wait before his first TD.....he's a rookie....there should not have been such a focus on him to produce in every area of the game so quickly. 821614[/snapback] And I think what other people are saying is that it would be WRONG for ESPN to NOT have had such dominant coverage on Reggie Bush. He was one of the best/most dynamic/most fun college RB's in the history of college football. They did what they were suppose to. What I dont get is how people are in love with Maroney and bash Bush. Dont get me wrong ... Maroney has the looks of a star RB in the league very soon, but lets just look at this real quick. People love to mention Maroney's 8.3 YPC against Cincinnati or his 5.1 YPC against Buffalo ... Both teams in the BOTTOM 15 of rushing defenses in the NFL. What people dont like to mention is his 2.1, 1.5, and 3.6 YPC games. He had one long run of 41 yards. Take that away and he is averaging around 3.7 YPC for the year. Receiving stats ... Bush is on pace for 96 receptions for about 700 yards. Maroney is on pace for about 21 receptions for about 250 yards. Then im sure someone will bring up the fact that Maroney has had a couple good kick returns this year and looks to be a great return specialist ... these people probably didnt realize that Bush has been returning punts, averaging nearly 11 yards a punt return, and a TD. Of players who have 15 or more return attempts this season he is ranked 5th in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 The way I read Bluefires post it backs up Bush. He did not say that Bush has not produced.....simply that the media hype placed an unreasonable expectation on him. IMO Bush has been great as a rookie but I'm sure that many(basing their expectations on what the media say) feel he is a bit disappointing. Heck, there was such a big deal with the wait before his first TD.....he's a rookie....there should not have been such a focus on him to produce in every area of the game so quickly. 821614[/snapback] Correct. The media has hyped him as the second coming. He certainly has made New Orleans better, I can agree with everyone in this thread here. His mere threat on offense is strong, and he's excellent as a WR. I'd love to see him as a WR, I think he could prove to be dominant in that position. I also think he's a pretty good RB, but not great. One of the things I would point to is when Bush made a 2-3 yard run which resulted in a loss. ESPN showed the replay of the cut he made about 10 times and were going on and on about it as if he's the only player in the league that could have made a cut in the backfield for someone to miss. This is more of a comment on the horrific "sports reporting" of ESPN rather then Reggie Bush being the second coming of anything. I labeled my open letter to ESPN as "Reggie Bush", because thats my #1 example of their stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 And I think what other people are saying is that it would be WRONG for ESPN to NOT have had such dominant coverage on Reggie Bush. He was one of the best/most dynamic/most fun college RB's in the history of college football. They did what they were suppose to. Really? How about showing whats happening in other games rather then showing Bush carrying the ball for a 2 yard loss? How about not labeling Bush the "best running back ever" before he's had a chance to play in the NFL? ESPN is over hyping people in an attempt to create story lines for games, and its sickening. I'm getting to the point where I can't watch MNF anymore because of their crap. What I dont get is how people are in love with Maroney and bash Bush. Dont get me wrong ... Maroney has the looks of a star RB in the league very soon, but lets just look at this real quick. People love to mention Maroney's 8.3 YPC against Cincinnati or his 5.1 YPC against Buffalo ... Both teams in the BOTTOM 15 of rushing defenses in the NFL. What people dont like to mention is his 2.1, 1.5, and 3.6 YPC games. He had one long run of 41 yards. Take that away and he is averaging around 3.7 YPC for the year. Receiving stats ... Bush is on pace for 96 receptions for about 700 yards. Maroney is on pace for about 21 receptions for about 250 yards. Then im sure someone will bring up the fact that Maroney has had a couple good kick returns this year and looks to be a great return specialist ... these people probably didnt realize that Bush has been returning punts, averaging nearly 11 yards a punt return, and a TD. Of players who have 15 or more return attempts this season he is ranked 5th in the NFL. 821664[/snapback] Of course, Maroney hasn't been touted as the second coming of Jesus, and has been somewhat more of a surprise. Thats the whole "expectations" thing that Dibs was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Really? How about showing whats happening in other games rather then showing Bush carrying the ball for a 2 yard loss? How about not labeling Bush the "best running back ever" before he's had a chance to play in the NFL? ESPN is over hyping people in an attempt to create story lines for games, and its sickening. I'm getting to the point where I can't watch MNF anymore because of their crap. Of course, Maroney hasn't been touted as the second coming of Jesus, and has been somewhat more of a surprise. Thats the whole "expectations" thing that Dibs was talking about. 821734[/snapback] Do you have a link or video clip of them labeling him the "best running back ever" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Do you have a link or video clip of them labeling him the "best running back ever" ? 821742[/snapback] I can't find one but pre draft i do distinctly remember one individual to call him "possibly the best runningback to ever touch a football". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I can't find one but pre draft i do distinctly remember one individual to call him "possibly the best runningback to ever touch a football". 821748[/snapback] CONTEXT. Im going to take a stab in the dark and say they were speaking of his college days and in that context many other people in the country would agree that he may "possibly" be the best college running back ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 The Saints have allowed the fewest sacks in the league this year, 8 in 7 games, after allowing 41 last season. The QB change was important of course, but Bush is also a major reason for that. There are very few players in the NFL who command the attention of the defense like he does. The Saints "mirror" all of Bush's plays so that he can line up on either side of the field, depending on the defense. If Brees perceives pressure coming from the right, and Bush is lined up left, Brees will send him in motion to the strong side, forcing the defense to call off or alter their blitz and coverage. Not to mention, when Brees does feel pressure, Bush's hands are as reliable as any back around. Bush is 21 years old. He is 6th in the NFL with 42 receptions as a backup RB, and is used as a designed decoy most of the time. He has already returned one game winning punt, and his career is 7 games old. I'm not sure what people were expecting from the kid. Of course this isn't the NCAA, and he's not going to average the 8.7 yards per carry that he averaged last year. 821583[/snapback] Yeah, totally agree. Does ESPN hype him up too much? Probably, but it's not on the top 10 list of things that annoy me most about ESPN. For all the time they spend on the Cowboys you would think the franchise would've won a playoff game in the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 CONTEXT. Im going to take a stab in the dark and say they were speaking of his college days and in that context many other people in the country would agree that he may "possibly" be the best college running back ever. 821752[/snapback] Really? Because I (and many others I'd think) would take it in the context that since its the draft, and they're talking bout the future, he'll be the best running back to ever touch the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Really? Because I (and many others I'd think) would take it in the context that since its the draft, and they're talking bout the future, he'll be the best running back to ever touch the football. 821755[/snapback] Then you (and many others) are probably wrong. ESPN does some dumb stuff, but im pretty assured that Chris Berman and co. did not say that Reggie Bush was going to be the best running back in the history of the game of football. If so, then find me a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Then you (and many others) are probably wrong. ESPN does some dumb stuff, but im pretty assured that Chris Berman and co. did not say that Reggie Bush was going to be the best running back in the history of the game of football. If so, then find me a link. 821761[/snapback] Because its just so easy to find links of frickin ESPN TV Shows on the internet. I'm not going to waste my time doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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