HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 I just heard a part of John Kerry's speech at a school recently (not sure which one). They played it on Patroit channel on Sirius. He said that if you work hard and study hard you can succeed and do whatever you want in life, if you don't study and work hard you will end up in Iraq. I didn't realize that our soldiers were just the dropouts and lazy kids! I would imaginge most families have at least one person who served in the military that they feel is deserving of respect. This speech is one of the most disgusting insults I have ever heard. I wonder how Cindy She-man will feel about her hero calling her dead son a lazy moron? This should end Kerry's political career, if the media choose to show it.
Bungee Jumper Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 I just heard a part of John Kerry's speech at a school recently (not sure which one). They played it on Patroit channel on Sirius. He said that if you work hard and study hard you can succeed and do whatever you want in life, if you don't study and work hard you will end up in Iraq. I didn't realize that our soldiers were just the dropouts and lazy kids! I would imaginge most families have at least one person who served in the military that they feel is deserving of respect. This speech is one of the most disgusting insults I have ever heard. I wonder how Cindy She-man will feel about her hero calling her dead son a lazy moron? This should end Kerry's political career, if the media choose to show it. 820990[/snapback] You lost me at "Patriot Channel". What the !@#$ is the Patriot Channel?
GG Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 You lost me at "Patriot Channel". What the !@#$ is the Patriot Channel? 820999[/snapback] Tedy Bruschi, 24/7?
Bungee Jumper Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 Tedy Bruschi, 24/7? 821004[/snapback] Doubt it. Doesn't sound like religious programming.
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 You lost me at "Patriot Channel". What the !@#$ is the Patriot Channel? 820999[/snapback] It is a channel on Sirius radio. I know it is right wing, but the speech was recorded and played on the channel. They were not misquoting him or drawing their own conclusions. I would link to the speech, but I am unable to access it from this computer. Look up Bill Bennett's morning in America if you would like more info.
Bungee Jumper Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 It is a channel on Sirius radio. I know it is right wing, but the speech was recorded and played on the channel. They were not misquoting him or drawing their own conclusions. I would link to the speech, but I am unable to access it from this computer. Look up Bill Bennett's morning in America if you would like more info. 821009[/snapback] I didn't know it was right-wing. Talk radio, sort of "Rush Limbaugh all day, every day"? Only reason I asked was that I was just getting prepared for a round of power vomiting upon finding out that "Patriot" has yet again been coopted to mean "If you're not a member in good standing of our party, you're just un-American." Being a Republican doesn't make you a patriot, it makes you a !@#$ing Republican.
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 I didn't know it was right-wing. Talk radio, sort of "Rush Limbaugh all day, every day"? Only reason I asked was that I was just getting prepared for a round of power vomiting upon finding out that "Patriot" has yet again been coopted to mean "If you're not a member in good standing of our party, you're just un-American." Being a Republican doesn't make you a patriot, it makes you a !@#$ing Republican. 821011[/snapback] If you want to debate the name of a radio station, start a new topic. I don't care what party you belong to, if you do not find Kerry's speech to be insulting and idiotic, something is wrong with you. It's funny how a lot of libs will point out that the military is filled with the poor and uneducated, yet the average education level and family income level of our military personell is higher than the overall average in America.
smokinandjokin Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 Many of the full-time enlisted military signed their papers because it really was the best option for them. It doesn't mean they don't deserve respect, it just means that an MBA from Georgetown is probably not in the cards for them. There probably are quite a few high school dropouts serving in Iraq right now, who chose the military because it was the best option for them to make a living. It's not unreasonable to think that if they could go back and choose between passing Pre-Calc or patrolling the streets of Ramadi, they might attempt to apply themselves a bit more. At the same time, I'm sure there are plenty serving in Iraq who wanted to get their GED and enlist in the military immediately, because that's what they've always wanted to do. I'm not saying Kerry ISN'T an idiot. I'm just trying to read between the lines a little, like you did when you assumed he meant all soldiers are lazy and stupid. I think what he was saying was, military service is an extremely honorable profession, but don't put yourself in a situation where you have no other options. A kid who does well at school and wants to go to Georgetown, but can't afford it, might look at the military and the GI Bill as a way to make that happen. But a kid who drops out of school because he thinks he has all the answers may have to choose between the gas station and Fallujah. Don't put yourself in a spot where you have no options.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 If you want to debate the name of a radio station, start a new topic. I don't care what party you belong to, if you do not find Kerry's speech to be insulting and idiotic, something is wrong with you. It's funny how a lot of libs will point out that the military is filled with the poor and uneducated, yet the average education level and family income level of our military personell is higher than the overall average in America. 821026[/snapback] If you don't know what the speech was about, where he was, what he was doing there, what the rest of the speech was, what the context was, what he actually said about the entire concept, and then spewed what an idiot he was for saying a ten second sound bite, you're a bigger idiot than he is. It was pretty easy to read up on, by the way. And John Kerry is very often a total idiot, one of the great hole-diggers of all-time, an abysmal candidate, and an allegedly smart guy who says incredibly stupid things all the time.
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 Many of the full-time enlisted military signed their papers because it really was the best option for them. It doesn't mean they don't deserve respect, it just means that an MBA from Georgetown is probably not in the cards for them. There probably are quite a few high school dropouts serving in Iraq right now, who chose the military because it was the best option for them to make a living. It's not unreasonable to think that if they could go back and choose between passing Pre-Calc or patrolling the streets of Ramadi, they might attempt to apply themselves a bit more. At the same time, I'm sure there are plenty serving in Iraq who wanted to get their GED and enlist in the military immediately, because that's what they've always wanted to do. I'm not saying Kerry ISN'T an idiot. I'm just trying to read between the lines a little, like you did when you assumed he meant all soldiers are lazy and stupid. I think what he was saying was, military service is an extremely honorable profession, but don't put yourself in a situation where you have no other options. A kid who does well at school and wants to go to Georgetown, but can't afford it, might look at the military and the GI Bill as a way to make that happen. But a kid who drops out of school because he thinks he has all the answers may have to choose between the gas station and Fallujah. Don't put yourself in a spot where you have no options. 821034[/snapback] I see your point, but he could have just as easily have said the students who don't work hard or study will be stuck working at Mc Donalds if he was simply talking about options after school. He chose to pick on the military and made it very clear that the people who CHOOSE to go to the Military are the lazy students or the ones who got poor grades. Our Military is currently all volunteer. If you don't like the GI bill option, get a few part time jobs while working through college.
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 If you don't know what the speech was about, where he was, what he was doing there, what the rest of the speech was, what the context was, what he actually said about the entire concept, and then spewed what an idiot he was for saying a ten second sound bite, you're a bigger idiot than he is. It was pretty easy to read up on, by the way. And John Kerry is very often a total idiot, one of the great hole-diggers of all-time, an abysmal candidate, and an allegedly smart guy who says incredibly stupid things all the time. 821036[/snapback] By all means explain to me how I took his quote out of context since I am such an idiot. When someone says you will end up in the military if you don't work hard and study, I would tend to think he is putting down our soldiers as dumb and lazy.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 By all means explain to me how I took his quote out of context since I am such an idiot. When someone says you will end up in the military if you don't work hard and study, I would tend to think he is putting down our soldiers as dumb and lazy. 821059[/snapback] It really doesn't matter what he said, although I did look up the incident and saw what he said, what he was doing when he said it, and what else he said. You're an idiot because you took a ten second sound-bite that you knew nothing about and extrapolated it to say that Kerry said that all of the troops were lazy and uneducated. That makes you an idiot regardless of how idiotic what Kerry said was, and it was pretty stupid. Besides, he was probably talking about Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Halliburton. He said, "You will get stuck in Iraq."
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 It really doesn't matter what he said, although I did look up the incident and saw what he said, what he was doing when he said it, and what else he said. You're an idiot because you took a ten second sound-bite that you knew nothing about and extrapolated it to say that Kerry said that all of the troops were lazy and uneducated. That makes you an idiot regardless of how idiotic what Kerry said was, and it was pretty stupid. Besides, he was probably talking about Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Halliburton. He said, "You will get stuck in Iraq." 821065[/snapback] I see you went to Lib U for your debating skills. Call someone stupid with no facts to back up your argument. If you can explain to me how I missunderstood a very straight forward statement let me know. If you want to sling insults because I'm an evil conservative, save it for someone who cares what you think.
catchescannonballs Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 Kerry is no stranger to lies about our soldiers. He lied when he said our trooops killed civilians in Vietnbam and tortured people there. Our soldiers are extermely professional and all those lies Kerry told change that not at all. The whole antiwar crowd cost us victory in Nam. We had it won but the media lied aboiut the truth. Now the Vietnmese government kills and tortures everyday fore the thrill of it. People like Kerry are sickining. The thought that he might have become president terrifies me. Amerioca would have been in deep, deep trouble had he won. Terrorist attacks would probably have shut down the airline induistry and americvan city or two would be gone and Iraq would have been abandoned to terrorists. Thank god real Americans--PATRIOTS!---Won in 2004
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 I see you went to Lib U for your debating skills. Call someone stupid with no facts to back up your argument. If you can explain to me how I missunderstood a very straight forward statement let me know. If you want to sling insults because I'm an evil conservative, save it for someone who cares what you think. 821101[/snapback] The point is he never spoke about the troops. He was briefly campaigning at Pasadena City College for the CA gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides in front of 370 students concerning educational reform. His whole speech, if you could call it that, was a series of jokes and one liners, where the students treated him like he was a rock star. He started talking about surfing, and then said he was just in the state of Texas, "Where the president used to live - now he lives in a state of denial." After a bunch of laughs he said you should try hard in school and get ahead or "you will get stuck in Iraq", a bad joke about Bush. Not the troops. Yes, it was stupid. Yes, Kerry says stupid things. No, he did not say or imply that the troops were lazy and stupid. It only showed that you were lazy and stupid. http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_4578034
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 Kerry is no stranger to lies about our soldiers. He lied when he said our trooops killed civilians in Vietnbam and tortured people there. Our soldiers are extermely professional and all those lies Kerry told change that not at all. The whole antiwar crowd cost us victory in Nam. We had it won but the media lied aboiut the truth. Now the Vietnmese government kills and tortures everyday fore the thrill of it. People like Kerry are sickining. The thought that he might have become president terrifies me. Amerioca would have been in deep, deep trouble had he won. Terrorist attacks would probably have shut down the airline induistry and americvan city or two would be gone and Iraq would have been abandoned to terrorists. Thank god real Americans--PATRIOTS!---Won in 2004 821105[/snapback] Carefull...You don't know what the context was when he was insulting our troops. He was probably just joking or directing it at the President. I am simply an idiot for thinking a statement like "work hard in school or you will get stuck joining the military" is horribly disrespectfull of our soldiers. Just ask Kelly if you would like to know if it is OK to be insulted by a statement.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 Carefull...You don't know what the context was when he was insulting our troops. He was probably just joking or directing it at the President. I am simply an idiot for thinking a statement like "work hard in school or you will get stuck joining the military" is horribly disrespectfull of our soldiers. Just ask Kelly if you would like to know if it is OK to be insulted by a statement. 821125[/snapback] You're not doing yourself any favors siding with that paragraph you just quoted by catchescannonballs.
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 The point is he never spoke about the troops. He was briefly campaigning at Pasadena City College for the CA gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides in front of 370 students concerning educational reform. His whole speech, if you could call it that, was a series of jokes and one liners, where the students treated him like he was a rock star. He started talking about surfing, and then said he was just in the state of Texas, "Where the president used to live - now he lives in a state of denial." After a bunch of laughs he said you should try hard in school and get ahead or "you will get stuck in Iraq", a bad joke about Bush. Not the troops. Yes, it was stupid. Yes, Kerry says stupid things. No, he did not say or imply that the troops were lazy and stupid. It only showed that you were lazy and stupid. http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_4578034 821110[/snapback] What in that article should make me reconsider my initial reaction to the statement? Just because he was telling jokes during the speech doesn't make it any less insulting. Contrary to what you may believe, just because you are surrounded by college libs and other Dems doesn't mean you can say anything you want without repercussions. That line was not about Bush, it was clearly aimed at the military.
Bungee Jumper Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 If you want to debate the name of a radio station, start a new topic. I don't care what party you belong to, if you do not find Kerry's speech to be insulting and idiotic, something is wrong with you. It's funny how a lot of libs will point out that the military is filled with the poor and uneducated, yet the average education level and family income level of our military personell is higher than the overall average in America. 821026[/snapback] Yes, Kerry's an idiot. There's far better reasons for thinking he's an idiot than this. It's not even worth discussing. The name of the radio station, though...that level of blatant manipulation is worth some comment. Moreso than anything Kerry spews.
X. Benedict Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 "work hard in school or you will get stuck joining the military" 821125[/snapback] Not working hard in school is terribly disrespectful to teachers.
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