BoondckCL Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Now, i know what crowd i am preaching to and their feelings of rap, but this song is some messed up stuff. Immortal Technique - Dance with the Devil It was a song that i had not heard for years until last night at a party. It was one of those things where when you hear it again, you are reminded about how truly screwed up it is. Download it, i think it will get a couple of reactions from people. You have to listen to the end of the first part with the piano in order to fully understand how screwed up it is. (No this is not good rap, great story telling, but too messed up to be good rap).
Typical TBD Guy Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Now, i know what crowd i am preaching to and their feelings of rap, but this song is some messed up stuff. Immortal Technique - Dance with the Devil It was a song that i had not heard for years until last night at a party. It was one of those things where when you hear it again, you are reminded about how truly screwed up it is. Download it, i think it will get a couple of reactions from people. You have to listen to the end of the first part with the piano in order to fully understand how screwed up it is. (No this is not good rap, great story telling, but too messed up to be good rap). 820070[/snapback] Er, let's just say that this song is why I never let females I know walk home alone.
BoondckCL Posted October 30, 2006 Author Posted October 30, 2006 Er, let's just say that this song is why I never let females I know walk home alone. 820076[/snapback] Hell yeah man, it really is that twisted.
daquixers_is_back Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Now, i know what crowd i am preaching to and their feelings of rap, but this song is some messed up stuff. Immortal Technique - Dance with the Devil It was a song that i had not heard for years until last night at a party. It was one of those things where when you hear it again, you are reminded about how truly screwed up it is. Download it, i think it will get a couple of reactions from people. You have to listen to the end of the first part with the piano in order to fully understand how screwed up it is. (No this is not good rap, great story telling, but too messed up to be good rap). 820070[/snapback] Its a pretty intense song. I use to really like the genre of rap. I especially liked Tupac. Im no longer into it as much. For those who dont want to download the song, but still want to know what its about ---> Its basically about a young kid who wanted respect and wanted to be known as a real gangster, and the only way his crew would accept him, is if he did something brutal (murder...etc). So one day they were riding around the city and found this lady, they followed her wrapped her shirt around her head, and dragged her somethere. Their they broke her jaw, ribs, and proceeded to rape her. Then they handed him (the kid) a new gun and told him to finish her off. He took the bloody shirt off of her head and it was him mom ... it then talks about how much his mom meant to him and her working late ...etc. He then jumped off of the roof of the building. The song then talks about the person rapping, is actually one of the people who raped the mom. Pretty disgusting. Tupac had a song that bothered me called "Hit Em Up" (it was directed towards Biggie) and also a song he did called "teardrops and closed caskets" that told a story (though not as gruesome). Boondock ... if you want to hear a good "story" song without all the gruesome crap, listen to "teardrops and closed caskets" by Tupac & the outlawz. I truly think rap today is horrible garbage. Tupac made a poetry out of it. Common is really the only one out right now, who still seems to have poetry in his raps.
BoondckCL Posted October 30, 2006 Author Posted October 30, 2006 Its a pretty intense song. I use to really like the genre of rap. I especially liked Tupac. Im no longer into it as much. For those who dont want to download the song, but still want to know what its about ---> Its basically about a young kid who wanted respect and wanted to be known as a real gangster, and the only way his crew would accept him, is if he did something brutal (murder...etc). So one day they were riding around the city and found this lady, they followed her wrapped her shirt around her head, and dragged her somethere. Their they broke her jaw, ribs, and proceeded to rape her. Then they handed him (the kid) a new gun and told him to finish her off. He took the bloody shirt off of her head and it was him mom ... it then talks about how much his mom meant to him and her working late ...etc. He then jumped off of the roof of the building. The song then talks about the person rapping, is actually one of the people who raped the mom. Pretty disgusting. Tupac had a song that bothered me called "Hit Em Up" (it was directed towards Biggie) and also a song he did called "teardrops and closed caskets" that told a story (though not as gruesome). Boondock ... if you want to hear a good "story" song without all the gruesome crap, listen to "teardrops and closed caskets" by Tupac & the outlawz. I truly think rap today is horrible garbage. Tupac made a poetry out of it. Common is really the only one out right now, who still seems to have poetry in his raps. 820078[/snapback] Suprisingly, "Hit 'em Up" doesn't really bother me. I don't know why, probably because the first time i heard it i was in fifth grade, but i don't get it, some songs just don't have an affect on me.
MadBuffaloDisease Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 A couple more: "The Sickness" by Disturbed (unedited version) and "Prison Sex" by Tool.
MadBuffaloDisease Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 I love "Prison Sex". So do I. I looked into the song and apparently it's semi-autobiographical WRT lead singer Maynard James Keenan and his step father.
The Tomcat Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 A couple more: "The Sickness" by Disturbed (unedited version) and "Prison Sex" by Tool. 820104[/snapback] BOTH AWESOME!!!
Tux of Borg Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Lets not forget that Buffalo is home to Cannibal Corpse. They have brought us such hits as Hammered Smashed Face, Orgasm Through Torture and Stripped Raped and Strangled.
apuszczalowski Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 A couple more: "The Sickness" by Disturbed (unedited version) and "Prison Sex" by Tool. 820104[/snapback] Those are both awesome songs (not because of the lyrics, but because of the music, I love the guitar Riff in Prison Sex), still not as disturbing as the rap ones mentioned. The problem I think is that Rappers tend to glorify that kind of stuff when they rap about it. They are always rapping about "Bitches and Ho's" and how they have all this money and being from the hood. They glorify to the younger kids who want to do the same and be like them. You rarely here about a child molestor saying they did it because of lyrics in a tool song.
Cripes Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 There are oldies, but are two songs that still make me wince: "Death Country Song" by the Violent Femmes -- a desperately poor man driven to kill his youngest daughter he couldn't afford to feed. As he leads her off to the caverns where he'll throw her into a pit, he tells her: "Kiss your mother good night, and remember that God saves." There's also "Getting Better," where John Lennon confesses he "used to be cruel to my woman, I'd beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved." I think it's just the song being put into today's context that makes it more shocking (not to mention that it really happened, unlike this gang-member-initiation urban legend in the making). We've come a long way since the days when Don Siegel would nonchalantly include a scene in "Coogan's Bluff" where Clint Eastwood drags an uppity woman against her will into the barn for an I'll-show-you screwin'.
Bungee Jumper Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Kids these days. You don't know anything about disturbing music, not until you've listened to Diana Ross and Lionel Richie singing "Endless Love"...
GoodBye Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 Kids these days. You don't know anything about disturbing music, not until you've listened to Diana Ross and Lionel Richie singing "Endless Love"... 820364[/snapback]
/dev/null Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 Ever listen to Gwar? Some of their lyrics can be quite disturbing (if taken seriously, but Gwar isn't meant to be taken seriously) Baby Raper - Gwar Babyraper, sperm creator Hulking, brutish masturbator Babyraper, emasculator Fleshy flap valve navigator Never leave me, Babyraper Melted cum ejaculator Spackled filth evaporator High colonic spackulator the Babyraper the Babyraper My quest for sex consumes all my life Being a god I do what i like I know it hurts you when I fvck a child Cum-sumed with cumming I've simply gone wild Drinking and drowning in lakes full of lust I'll still jerk off even when I cum dust My sex is my hatred My penis a tool My balls are imploding I'm playing the fool My butt crack is folding The crap that it's holding I heap it all over the stool Oh, Babyraper I'm the fvcking Babyraper I'm the guy who stiffed the waiter Mangled public flagellator Turgid bowel exaggerator Fleshy flap-valved gladiator
MadBuffaloDisease Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 There are oldies, but are two songs that still make me wince: "Death Country Song" by the Violent Femmes -- a desperately poor man driven to kill his youngest daughter he couldn't afford to feed. As he leads her off to the caverns where he'll throw her into a pit, he tells her: "Kiss your mother good night, and remember that God saves." I think "Blister in the Sun" is FAR more disturbing.
BoondckCL Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 These are the lyrics for Immortal Technique, just to show how dark they truly are. Imagine a steady piano beat behind the lyrics. I think it is Mozart of some kind mixed with a couple of other instruments. Anyone who can pinpoint the piano melody, please share. Immortal Technique - Dance With The Devil Lyrics [Verse 1] I once knew a nigga whose real name was William his primary concern, was making a million being the illest hustler, that the world ever seen he used to !@#$ moviestars and sniff coke in his dreams a corrupted young mind, at the age of thirteen nigga never had a father and his mom was a feen she put the pipe down, but forever yeah she was sober her sons heart simultaneously grew colder he started hanging out selling bags in the projects checking the young chicks, looking for hit and run prospects he was fascinated by material objects but he understood money never bought respect he build a reputation cause he could hustle and steal but got locked once it didn't hesitate to squeal so criminals he chilled with didn't think he was real you see me and niggaz like this have never been equal I dont project my insurecurity's at other people he feeded for props like addicts with pipes and needles so he felt he had to prove to everyone he was evil a fever minded young man with infinite potetial the product of a ghetto breed capatalistic mental coincidentally dropped out of school to sell weed dancing with the devil, smoked until his eyes would bleed but he was sick of selling trees and gave in to his greed [Hook] Everyone trying to be trife never face the consequences you propably only did a month for minor offences ask a nigga doing life if he had another chance but then again there's always the wicked at new and advanced dance forever with the devil on a code cell block but thats what happens when you rape, murder and sell rock devils used to be gods, angels that fell from the top there's no diversity because we're burning in the melting pot [Verse 2] So Billy started robbing niggaz, anything he could do he'd get his respect back, in the eyes of his crew starting fights over little sh--, up on the block stepped up to selling mothers and brothers the crack rock working overtime for making money for the crack spot hit the jackpot and wanted to move up to cocaine for filling the scarface fantasy stuck in his brain tired of the block niggaz treating him the same he wanted to be major like the cut throats and the thugs but when he tried to step to 'em, niggaz showed him no love they told him any mother!@#$ing coward can sell drugs any B word nigga with a gun, can bust slugs any nigga with a red shirt can front like a blood even Puffy smoked the mother!@#$er up in a club but only a real thug can stab someone till they die standing in front of them, starring straight into their eyes Billy realized that these men were well guarded and they wanted to test him, before business started suggested raping a B word to prove he was cold hearted so now he had a choice between going back to his life or making money with made men, up in the cife his dreams about cars and ice, made him agree a hardcore nigga is all he ever wanted to be and so he met them friday night at a quarter to three [Hook] [Verse 3] They drove around the projects slow while it was raining smoking blunts, drinking and joking for entertainment untill they saw a woman on the street walking alone three in the morning, coming back from work, on her way home and so they quietly got out the car and followed her walking through the projects, the darkness swallowed her they wrapped her shirt around her head and knocked her onto the floor this is it kid now you got your chance to be raw so Billy oaked her up and grapped the chick by the hair and dragged her into a lobby that had nobody there she struggled hard but they forced her to go up the stairs they got to the roof and then held her down on the ground screaming shut the !@#$ up and stop moving around the shirt covered her face, but she screamed the clouts so Billy stomped on the B word, until he broken her jaw the dirty bastards knew exactly what they were doing they kicked her until they cracked her ribs and she stopped moving blood leaking through the cloth, she cried silently and then they all proceeded to rape her violently Billy was meant to go first, but each of them took a turn ripping her up, and choking her until her throat burned a broken jaw mumbled for god but they weren't concerned when they were done and she was lying bloody, broken and broos one of them niggaz pulled out a brand new twenty-two they told him that she was a witness of what she'd gone through and if he killed her he was guaranteed a spot in the crew he thought about it for a minute, she was practicly dead and so he leaned over and put the gun right to her head [sample from "Survival of the Fittest" by Mobb Deep] I'm falling and I can't turn back I'm falling and I can't turn back [Verse 4] Right before he pulled the trigger, and ended her life he thought about the cold pain with the platinum and ice and he felt strong standing along with his new brothers cocked the gat to her head, and pulled back the shirt cover but what he saw made him start the cringine studder cuz he was starring into the eyes of his own mother she looked back at him and cried, cause he had forsaken her she cried more painfully, than when they were raping her his whole world stopped, he couldn't even contiplate his corruption had succesfully changed his fate and he remembered how his mom used to come home late working hard for nothing, cause now what was he worth he turned away from the woman that had once given him birth and crying out to the sky cause he was lonely and scared but only the devil responded, cause god wasn't there and right then he knew what it was to be empty and cold and so he jumped off the roof and died with no soul they say death take you to a better place but I doubt it after that they killed his mother, and never spoke about it and listen cause the story that I'm telling is true cuz I was there with Billy Jacobs and I raped his mom to and now the devil follows me everywhere that I go infact I'm sure he's standing among one of you at my shows and every street cypher listening to little thugs flowe he could be standing right next to you, and you wouldn't know the devil grows inside the hearts of the selvish and wicked white, brown, yellow and black colored is not restricted you have a self destructive destiny when your inflicted and you'll be one of gods children and fell from the top there's no diversity because we're burning in the melting pot so when the devil wants to dance with you, you better say never because the dance with the devil might last you forever
daquixers_is_back Posted October 31, 2006 Posted October 31, 2006 I dont think its dark ... its just a horrible story. When I think "dark", I think Rob Zombie, and Marilyn Manson.
BoondckCL Posted October 31, 2006 Author Posted October 31, 2006 I dont think its dark ... its just a horrible story. When I think "dark", I think Rob Zombie, and Marilyn Manson. 820767[/snapback] There is a dark essence to it i think, and i think one of the reasons that there is a darker essence is because of the fact that it is a terrible story told over a light melody. I think in this song there is some kind of clash between a good voice for telling the story, a light melody, and story that absolutely sits wrong with anyone who hears it. That's why i say it is dark. As dark as other songs? I wouldn't quite go that far, but it is definately not something like any kind of west coast upbeat, uptempo song that could be found in most kind of raps.
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