truth on hold Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 this is the problem with the simplified theory that all you need is guys who try hard and don't get into trouble off the field. marv should have known better, the 4x AFC champion bills had plenty of ego-maniacs who got into trouble, like: bruce smith: suspended for substance abuse thurman thomas: alcoholic jim kelly: perrenial whiner calling out his team mates whenever he made a mistake daryl tally: fighting w/ magic johnson's bodyguard the night before a super bowl leonard smith: dirtiest strong safety in the league at the time i'm sure there are plenty others i have forgotten. who cares if you give it 110% ever down when you don't have the talent to be in this league in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 who cares 817007[/snapback] That about covers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 this is the problem with the simplified theory that all you need is guys who try hard and don't get into trouble off the field. marv should have known better, the 4x AFC champion bills had plenty of ego-maniacs who got into trouble, like: bruce smith: suspended for substance abuse thurman thomas: alcoholic jim kelly: perrenial whiner calling out his team mates whenever he made a mistake daryl tally: fighting w/ magic johnson's bodyguard the night before a super bowl leonard smith: dirtiest strong safety in the league at the time i'm sure there are plenty others i have forgotten. who cares if you give it 110% ever down when you don't have the talent to be in this league in the first place? 817007[/snapback] Yeah--but those guys you mentioned always gave it 110%.They were tough tough competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 marv needs to go out and get some talent. spare us the "rudy" speeches. remember, even rudy only played one down for notre dame as a joke. Yeah--but those guys you mentioned always gave it 110%.They were tough tough competitors. 817027[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 Yeah--but those guys you mentioned always gave it 110%.They were tough tough competitors. 817027[/snapback] how about getting joey porter from the raiders? hes young at 28 and at 220 a big physical receiver buffalo could really use given its set of smallish receivers. oh yeah, he's not a "character" guy. better to have 150 lb 5'8" butterfingers "high character" guy instead. doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 how about getting joey porter from the raiders? hes young at 28 and at 220 a big physical receiver buffalo could really use given its set of smallish receivers. oh yeah, he's not a "character" guy. better to have 150 lb 5'8" butterfingers "high character" guy instead. doh! 817048[/snapback] WR is the least of our problems. Offensive Line Defensive Line Once we fixed those, then we worry about other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbyte Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 There are many players that are high charcter guys and still very good players. in today's salary cap era you can not afford these people who are good but are problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 how about getting joey porter from the raiders? hes young at 28 and at 220 a big physical receiver buffalo could really use given its set of smallish receivers. oh yeah, he's not a "character" guy. better to have 150 lb 5'8" butterfingers "high character" guy instead. doh! 817048[/snapback] I live out here and have seeen Porter play.He is highly overrated.Huge mistake--he has not done anything in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 marv needs to go out and get some talent. 817038[/snapback] Not to pick on you, but how do your expect any GM to rebuild a team in the shambles TD left it in just his first year? Marv's approach as a HC when he joined the Bills was to take the first year to evaluate what he had, and then start rebuilding the team with Polian in year 2. I suspect he'll go about his GM responsibilities the same way. IMO, anyone that thinks this mess can be fixed in less tha a year is employing wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Maybe he wants to finally build a team "his" way with this one last crack at it?... I don't blame him... Give him the benefit of doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Marv's approach as a HC when he joined the Bills was to take the first year to evaluate what he had, and then start rebuilding the team with Polian in year 2. I suspect he'll go about his GM responsibilities the same way. Ding, ding, ding. I think you'll see a lot of changes this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykat Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Boy, times have sure changed since Levy got hired. Funny how some of us saw all of this ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 WR is the least of our problems. Offensive Line Defensive Line Once we fixed those, then we worry about other stuff. 817054[/snapback] Yeah, once we fix those, we'll say, "We're only a good WR away from being a competitive team" It's hard to build a winning football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yeah, once we fix those, we'll say, "We're only a good WR away from being a competitive team" It's hard to build a winning football team. 817467[/snapback] Yes. I think Parcells said it best a couple years ago when the Cowboys had no quarterback (yes I know they still don't have one) and when a member of the media asked him a question like - So Bill, this teams needs a quarterback, do you have plans to bring somebody in? Parcell's reply was something like - Well it sure would be easy if we could dial 1- 800 - quarterback and get one, but it doesn't work that way. Yes the Bills need some players and it won't happen this year. Hard to understand why so many people on this board are so surprised and disappointed with the Bills this year. They're playing about how the roster looks. Young, inexperienced and in some cases not very good. I for one will not get worked up about wins and losses for the rest of the year, but will watch the young guys closely and look for improvement along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 That about covers it. 817021[/snapback] I'd say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Not to pick on you, but how do your expect any GM to rebuild a team in the shambles TD left it in just his first year? Marv's approach as a HC when he joined the Bills was to take the first year to evaluate what he had, and then start rebuilding the team with Polian in year 2. I suspect he'll go about his GM responsibilities the same way. IMO, anyone that thinks this mess can be fixed in less tha a year is employing wishful thinking. 817058[/snapback] THANK YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I'm sorry, but reasonable thoughts are not allowed. The Bills aren't good this year, so it is apparent that everything that happened at OBD this offseason is a complete failure. Adjust your opinion accordingly. Not to pick on you, but how do your expect any GM to rebuild a team in the shambles TD left it in just his first year? Marv's approach as a HC when he joined the Bills was to take the first year to evaluate what he had, and then start rebuilding the team with Polian in year 2. I suspect he'll go about his GM responsibilities the same way. IMO, anyone that thinks this mess can be fixed in less tha a year is employing wishful thinking. 817058[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Who says by character guys Marv is looking for guys who don't have personal problems? Marv "character guys" he is looking at are guys that go out and give 110% on the field and want to play all the time at a high level, and not play only when they want to (like many of the cuts) Couple that with the fact that he is looking for young players right now (in the first year of rebuilding) that have potential and upside to be good players in the future, this way they will be successful for more then just one year before they are looking for replacements. Its also alot easier to have a successful team when your players aren't spending their Sundays (or practice times) in a jail cell, courthouse, or rehab centre. I have no problem with Marv passing on lockerroom cancers and building a team of character guys who people can be proud of, instead of guys that are going to spend their time here keeping the Buffalo police department busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 marv should have known better 817007[/snapback] Marv didn't build this team. Marv inherited the team and ran their draft this past April. Marv Levy hasn't even had a full year to do whatever he's planning to do. I really don't see how anyone can blame him for things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 this is the problem with the simplified theory that all you need is guys who try hard and don't get into trouble off the field. marv should have known better, the 4x AFC champion bills had plenty of ego-maniacs who got into trouble, like: bruce smith: suspended for substance abuse thurman thomas: alcoholic jim kelly: perrenial whiner calling out his team mates whenever he made a mistake daryl tally: fighting w/ magic johnson's bodyguard the night before a super bowl leonard smith: dirtiest strong safety in the league at the time i'm sure there are plenty others i have forgotten. who cares if you give it 110% ever down when you don't have the talent to be in this league in the first place? 817007[/snapback] ugh. why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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