genomich Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 Sorry, but if Mcnally is such a genius, why are we tearing things up half-way thru the season??!?! this is a move of desperation. The fact that this is the move, as opposed to Qb switch, means losman isn't the primary problem in the eyes of the coaching staff. why wasn't the OL addressed in the offseason?! Reyes looks only marginally better than anderson. Fowler is a quicker, meeker Teague.
IDBillzFan Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 this is a move of desperation.815572[/snapback] Ummmm...I don't know if you've noticed, but we're 2-5. I'd say we're pretty !@#$ing desperate.
Rubes Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 I think everybody and their half-sister knows that our offensive line is the problem, has been the problem, and always will be the problem until it's fixed. I've heard enough comments from Ralph, Marv, and Dick to know that they realize we don't have the talent to compete in the trenches.
IDBillzFan Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 Somewhere, Belichick is laughing. 815605[/snapback] Kinda hard to hear him over the rest of the league laughing at us, but I'll take your word for it.
ajzepp Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 Sorry, but if Mcnally is such a genius, why are we tearing things up half-way thru the season??!?! this is a move of desperation. The fact that this is the move, as opposed to Qb switch, means losman isn't the primary problem in the eyes of the coaching staff. why wasn't the OL addressed in the offseason?! Reyes looks only marginally better than anderson. Fowler is a quicker, meeker Teague. 815572[/snapback] You can call it whatever you want....it's necessary. I'd much rather they start messing around with it and giving new people the chance to step up as opposed to just pretending nothing is wrong.
Bill from NYC Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 You can call it whatever you want....it's necessary. I'd much rather they start messing around with it and giving new people the chance to step up as opposed to just pretending nothing is wrong. 815621[/snapback] And you sir are correct. As I mentioned, it is wise to give these kids reps now. Why wait until next year when the current OL clearly sucks? If by some chance Merz and Pennington can play, they won't have to start 07 as rookies.
Rico Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 You can call it whatever you want....it's necessary. I'd much rather they start messing around with it and giving new people the chance to step up as opposed to just pretending nothing is wrong. 815621[/snapback] Agreed... no doubt though IMO that it also confirms that Marv, Modrak, and co. totally sh-- the bed this past off-season by not making the OL the #1 priority. Unlike TD, maybe Marv will wake up & learn something from this.
bills_fan Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 If by some chance Merz and Pennington can play, they won't have to start 07 as rookies. And if by some chance Peters turns into a real LT, it will crystallize our draft plans.
ajzepp Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 And you sir are correct. As I mentioned, it is wise to give these kids reps now. Why wait until next year when the current OL clearly sucks? If by some chance Merz and Pennington can play, they won't have to start 07 as rookies. 815628[/snapback] It's hard for me sometimes cause a lot of you guys see manymore games than I do, but I think it's pretty clear that everyone feels our Oline is crap, lol. I haven't seen Merz or Pennington play a single down, but I don't see any reason not to give them a shot. I'm sorta surprised that Butler was passed over, but no matter. New guy, new opportunity to do something good. works for me!
Ramius Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 It's hard for me sometimes cause a lot of you guys see manymore games than I do, but I think it's pretty clear that everyone feels our Oline is crap, lol. I haven't seen Merz or Pennington play a single down, but I don't see any reason not to give them a shot. I'm sorta surprised that Butler was passed over, but no matter. New guy, new opportunity to do something good. works for me! 815662[/snapback] Yup. Its nice ot see a front office/coaching staff that seems ot be proactive about the teams problems. It also gives me faith that the OL will receive its due attention in this upcoming offseason.
ajzepp Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 Agreed... no doubt though IMO that it also confirms that Marv, Modrak, and co. totally sh-- the bed this past off-season by not making the OL the #1 priority. Unlike TD, maybe Marv will wake up & learn something from this. 815655[/snapback] Dude, are you not totally sick and tired of hearing about the fuggin Oline? I hope to God you're right and they just find a way to get it done....we've got to get back to having a team that matches our climate and the people of WNY. The biggest thing I'm tired of is having a pansy-assed team that gets pushed around.
ajzepp Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 Yup. Its nice ot see a front office/coaching staff that seems ot be proactive about the teams problems. It also gives me faith that the OL will receive its due attention in this upcoming offseason. 815663[/snapback] I hope to God we have the chance to bring in some badass lineman this offseason. Even if we just find ONE dominant guy on each line, that would be wonderful. Schobel is good, but he's not dominant by any means. We need one game changing Dlineman to go with our current group and one guy on the Oline who can just play lights out. I'd be thrilled with that.
Pete Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 Glad to see Peters get some reps at LT. Its much easier to fill the RT spot then the LT. Go Jason Peters!
Dante Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 And so it goes. The more things change the more they stay the same. As sure as death and taxes and the sun will come up tommorow, three things will stay the same. Our OLine will suck. Our Dline will be undersized and mediocre. Wilson will never spend money to get a proven coach. He lacks the insight to get a dynamic, innovative fresh face to coach. I guess thats 4 things.
Ramius Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 And so it goes. The more things change the more they stay the same. As sure as death and taxes and the sun will come up tommorow, three things will stay the same. Our OLine will suck. Our Dline will be undersized and mediocre. Wilson will never spend money to get a proven coach. He lacks the insight to get a dynamic, innovative fresh face to coach. I guess thats 4 things. 815670[/snapback] Yup, we needed to hire a dynamic innovative offensive or defensive head coach. Oh wait we tried that. We tried gregg williams and a dynamic innovative offensive coach in meathead. Whom are you suggesting?
Bill from NYC Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 I'm sorta surprised that Butler was passed over, but no matter. New guy, new opportunity to do something good. works for me! 815662[/snapback] According to various sites, Pennington outweighs Butler by estimates ranging from 16-33 pounds (Butler is listed as low as 292 and as high as 310). A right tackle need to be more of a mauler than a finesse guy. Of the 2, Pennington clearly has the size advantage.
ajzepp Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 According to various sites, Pennington outweighs Butler by estimates ranging from 16-33 pounds (Butler is listed as low as 292 and as high as 310). A right tackle need to be more of a mauler than a finesse guy. Of the 2, Pennington clearly has the size advantage. 815682[/snapback] Ah okay, I didn't know that....makes sense. I was liking the reports of Butler's mean streak, but if they think Pennington is the better option than I say go for it.
obie_wan Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 You can call it whatever you want....it's necessary. I'd much rather they start messing around with it and giving new people the chance to step up as opposed to just pretending nothing is wrong. 815621[/snapback] At least the Bills have some young talent brought in by this staff who they are willing to get on the field. Pennington and Merz at least provide hope for the future. Peters was slated to be the LT of the future. The future got here sooner than expected- he can't be any worse than Gandy. The sooner they get Villarial to teh bench, the better. However, they probably want his experience next to the rookie Pennington until he gets his feet wet. The OL shakeup is a good thing.
Ramius Posted October 24, 2006 Posted October 24, 2006 Who was bitching all offseason that Marv wont let rookies on the field?
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